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Why did the Rockets really give up on the season?

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Why did the Rockets go on a choke job losing streak at the worst part of the season?

The players (not coaches/staff) didn't wanna be in the playoffs cause they're tired / don't care
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Mchale had a problem with our centers or he had a hard on for patterson
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The Rockets front office staff found out that a draft pick they really want could be available at the 12-13th pick, so they pulled a last minute tank job
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The rockets staff found a wonderful new stat they pulled out of their asses from the calculator they stuff in their crotches that showed that Patterson would be the best player to end the game at center, even if one of the centers was on pace for a double double with blocks
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David stern wanted the last 3 games with hou/phx/utah to be neck and neck so he could profit more
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It was a legit losing streak. Nothing is going on behind the scenes. We just plain choked the playoffs away
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Other
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Why did the Rockets really give up on the season? 

Post#1 » by rocketsballin » Sun Apr 22, 2012 5:58 am

I'm not convinced the 6 game losing streak was legit. When a bad road team wins 4 straight games on the road, they don't just go on a 6 game losing streak right after, especially at the most important part of the **** season. There has to be more behind it.

I put some blame on the coaches, but for the most part I think (most of) the players just straight up wanted the season to end. If anyone was actually watching the game today vs GSW, the halftime interivew with an assistant coach ended abruptly after he said "...the players just need to get their heads out of their butts..." then he walked away before Bullard could end the interview.

A lot of blame goes to Mcfail for ending the game with a 6'9 235lb UNDERSIZDED power forward at center, when our two real centers were having good games (dalembert had an efficient game with 9rbs/7blks in 24min when camby was out, but patterson finished the game at center).

I dont give a **** what stats they pulled out their ass, stop being such a **** nerd and play ur **** center when you need him the most. The players' indifference to the playoffs, and crunch time rotations are what cost us the playoffs.

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Re: Why did the Rockets really go on a losing streak? 

Post#2 » by YoungMoney23 » Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:16 am

A mixture of of issues id say but Patterson needs to show more before he gets the playing time he is...
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Re: Why did the Rockets really go on a losing streak? 

Post#3 » by rocketseagles07 » Sun Apr 22, 2012 3:42 pm

Basketball is a game of runs. We went on a nice little run but I really think that the NBA season does a good job of sorting the contenders from the pretenders because it's so long. In the nba talent reigns supreme and we just don't have enough. I do blame Mchale for trying to play with the lineup too much but he's been doing that all year. I agree that he should've left our centers in, sometimes the mere fact camby or sam are on the floor impacts a lot of shots in the paint. I also think we got burnt out, depth can't win you every game and the fact that we were 27th in the league in FT attempts over the last 6 games didn't help.

At the end of the day we just need more talent and players that can do it on both ends. I like Mchale as a coach because he is a players coach just like Doc Rivers is and when you think of longterm success I think those type of coaches are the best for teams like ours(young and developing) because they get the most out of them. Going forward I want to see us take risks in the draft and of course continue trying to get a star, we have enough "decent/good players" it's time to take some risks and try to acquire/draft some great ones.
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Re: Why did the Rockets really go on a losing streak? 

Post#4 » by moofs » Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:30 pm

Hey hey, don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

We needed this losing streak and got it.
Who cares about why?
We had NO shot at winning, or even of going deep, and now have three draft picks.

Tanking really doesn't help much, fyi.
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Re: Why did the Rockets really go on a losing streak? 

Post#5 » by Zubby » Sun Apr 22, 2012 6:24 pm

I agree 100% tanking doesn't always work but, when your a good team ie. the Houston Rockets, but not good enough, and there is a deep draft, that can make a big difference even if just to draft more valuable pieces, o trade for a disgruntled star in Dwight Howard.

Especially when all you need is say a guaranteed 12th pick.


I mean we all know Rockets love advance stats, and it has already been beaten to death how good we are with a shoot blocking 5 on the court...

But all off a sudden we go small which has killed us the whole... and the reason we went for Camby weeks ago!


IMO the Organization saw NYK were balling were going to make the PO meaning no lottery for us.

At the same time a couple big name players stock is falling toward the end of the lottery...

Jared Sullinger & Austin Rivers.

I think we are targeting Sullinger, a young post scorer which this team desperately needs, the losing streak coincided with Sulliger's stock drop & NKY PO push.




Call me crazy but even in the post game notes of all those loses opposing coaches would mention, yea Dalmbert/Camby were very effective, we had edge he was out etc.
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Re: Why did the Rockets really go on a losing streak? 

Post#6 » by JetLife » Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:43 pm

This is a question only Mr. E can answer
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Re: Why did the Rockets really go on a losing streak? 

Post#7 » by Mr. E » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:56 pm

JetLife wrote:This is a question only Mr. E can answer


Well, it's kind of like this...

When the season started I had little to no expectations for this team. I was able to enjoy every game, win or lose, because I just didn't see this team doing much. I was focused on the positive.

This didn't sit well with Daryl Morey, so he assembled his top warlocks and witches and they summoned a great force: hope.

They knew that I needed to have Hope if they had any chance to use their magic to torture my soul in the most cruel ways possible. They realized that if they showed flashes of brilliance then I would start to watch each game expecting a win. Once that happened they knew that their evil plan would work.

Their ultimate plan culminated in that 4-game road winning streak where I became convinced that we were playoff-bound and that we had the potential to be a first-round nightmare match for some team. I started to believe that this team was just one great player away from being a perrenial contender.

I believed. I had Hope.

They had me right where they wanted me.

I started this season very positive without high expectations. I am ending the season feeling as though they have ripped my soul out and laughed while doing so. This is what they wanted all along.

Why?

Because they're dicks.
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Re: Why did the Rockets really give up on the season? 

Post#8 » by texasholdem » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:47 am

When we draft Anthony Davis with the #1 pick it will make everything better.

Wow hard to believe it's been 10 years since Steve Francis won us the #1 pick to draft Yao Ming.
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Re: Why did the Rockets really give up on the season? 

Post#9 » by MaxRider » Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:47 am

texasholdem wrote:When we draft Anthony Davis with the #1 pick it will make everything better.

Wow hard to believe it's been 10 years since Steve Francis won us the #1 pick to draft Yao Ming.
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Re: Why did the Rockets really give up on the season? 

Post#10 » by Folie a deux » Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:42 am

So, OK gentlemen, the problem with the Rockets is that for over 15 years now we were never a real contender or a real failure (except the Grady-Yao year of course). We were always a team chasing for the 8th spot in the playoffs, and that's basically the worst thing you can be in the NBA. Like the Jazz or the Nuggets, we will never get a wonderful draft pick or a championship unless we are really really lucky.

I think this is better for us, since we are also getting the NJ pick (not sure about the team, correct me if i'm wrong), so we have a lottery pick which can be really valuable in this draft.

What I've heard recently is that, '13 draft will be even better than this one. So why not trade scola-dalembert-martin with an unused star (like the potential gasol trade at the beginning of the year), and rebuild the team for a few years.

The Rockets need change. Desperately.
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Re: Why did the Rockets really give up on the season? 

Post#11 » by TMACFORMVP » Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:37 am

+1000 to Mr. E's post.
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Re: Why did the Rockets really give up on the season? 

Post#12 » by TMU » Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:52 pm

Guys, it was a win-win situation. We got 3 picks for sucking. :lol:
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Re: Why did the Rockets really give up on the season? 

Post#13 » by Zubby » Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:30 pm

No to get the 3rd 1st round pick.
I think we need ORL to lose their last two games, one is against Charlotte...
Dallas to beat ATL in ATL
and Denver to lose to Minny...


Remember Dallas has to be a top 10 team.
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