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Im sitting on the edge with Morey. I used to be such a believer but its becoming harder and harder. So lets look over some of the things he has done since taking the chair in May 2007

June 14, 2007: Traded Juwan Howard to the Minnesota Timberwolves for Mike James and Justin Reed.
At best this trade was a wash
June 28, 2007: Traded cash to the Orlando Magic for a 2007 2nd round draft pick (Brad Newley).
Wash
June 28, 2007: Selected Aaron Brooks (1st round, 26th pick) and Brad Newley (2nd round, 54th pick) in the 2007 NBA Draft.
AB was a good pick
June 28, 2007: Traded cash and a 2008 2nd round draft pick (Sasha Kaun) to the Seattle SuperSonics for Carl Landry.
Good move
July 12, 2007: Traded Vassilis Spanoulis and a 2009 2nd round draft pick (Nando DeColo) to the San Antonio Spurs for Jackie Butler and Luis Scola.
His best move
July 13, 2007: Signed Mike Harris as a free agent.
Non factor
July 20, 2007: Signed Steve Francis as a free agent.
I originally put non factor here, but then I realized that we had to give up the 2nd round pick that turned out to be Sam Young just to get ride of him, so there was some negativity there
February 21, 2008: Traded Kirk Snyder and a 2010 2nd round draft pick (Paulao Prestes) to the Minnesota Timberwolves for Gerald Green.
Non factor
February 21, 2008: As part of a 3-team trade, the Houston Rockets traded Mike James and Bonzi Wells to the New Orleans Hornets; the Houston Rockets traded Malick Badiane to the Memphis Grizzlies; the Memphis Grizzlies traded Sergei Lishouk to the Houston Rockets; the New Orleans Hornets traded Bobby Jackson, Adam Haluska and a 2008 2nd round draft pick (Marty Leunen) to the Houston Rockets; and the New Orleans Hornets traded Marcus Vinicius to the Memphis Grizzlies.
Nothing of substance here
February 26, 2008: Signed Bobby Jones to a 10-day contract.
Non factor
March 7, 2008: Signed Justin Williams to a 10-day contract.
Non factor
March 8, 2008: Signed Mike Harris to two 10-day contracts, then signed to a contract for the rest of the season.
Non factor
March 21, 2008: Signed Loren Woods to two 10-day contracts, then signed to a contract for the rest of the season.
Non factor
June 26, 2008: Selected Nicolas Batum (1st round, 25th pick) and Marty Leunen (2nd round, 54th pick) in the 2008 NBA Draft.
Good draft pick with Batum, too bad we didn't keep him

June 26, 2008: As part of a 3-team trade, the Houston Rockets traded Nicolas Batum to the Portland Trail Blazers; the Memphis Grizzlies traded Donte Greene and a 2009 2nd round draft pick (Sam Young) to the Houston Rockets; the Portland Trail Blazers traded Joey Dorsey to the Houston Rockets; and the Portland Trail Blazers traded Darrell Arthur to the Memphis Grizzlies.
Terrible move
July 10, 2008: Signed Brent Barry as a free agent.
Good signing
August 6, 2008: Traded Steve Novak to the Los Angeles Clippers. Houston received the right to swap 2nd round draft picks in 2011 but did not do so.
Cap space clearing move
August 14, 2008: Traded Donte Greene, Bobby Jackson and a 2009 1st round draft pick (Omri Casspi) to the Sacramento Kings for Metta World Peace, Patrick Ewing and Sean Singletary.
Lot of good that did
August 25, 2008: Traded Sean Singletary to the Phoenix Suns for D.J. Strawberry.
Non factor
August 29, 2008: Traded Patrick Ewing to the New York Knicks for Frederic Weis.
Non factor
September 29, 2008: Signed Von Wafer as a free agent.
Decent move
December 23, 2008: Traded Steve Francis, cash and a 2009 2nd round draft pick (Sam Young) to the Memphis Grizzlies for a 2011 2nd round draft pick. Houston did not receive the 2nd round draft pick because it was top 55 protected.
Cap clearing move
February 19, 2009: As part of a 3-team trade, the Houston Rockets traded Rafer Alston to the Orlando Magic; the Memphis Grizzlies traded Kyle Lowry to the Houston Rockets; the Orlando Magic traded Brian Cook to the Houston Rockets; and the Orlando Magic traded Adonal Foyle, Mike Wilks and a 2009 1st round draft pick (DeMarre Carroll) to the Memphis Grizzlies.
Very good move
March 3, 2009: Signed James White to two 10-day contracts, then signed to a contract for the rest of the season.
Non factor. I was somewhat excited though
June 25, 2009: Purchased Jermaine Taylor from the Washington Wizards.
Decent move
June 25, 2009: Traded cash and a future 2nd round draft pick to the Detroit Pistons for Chase Budinger.
Decent move
June 25, 2009: Purchased Sergio Llull from the Denver Nuggets.
Jury is still out
July 8, 2009: Signed Trevor Ariza as a free agent.
Terrible move
August 12, 2009: Signed David Andersen as a free agent.
Terrible move
September 3, 2009: Signed Pops Mensah-Bonsu as a free agent.
Non factor
September 30, 2009: Signed Will Conroy as a free agent.
Non factor
September 30, 2009: Signed Garrett Temple as a free agent.
Non factor
December 23, 2009: Signed Mike Harris as a free agent.
Non factor
January 28, 2010: Signed Will Conroy to a 10-day contract.
Non factor
February 8, 2010: Signed Garrett Temple to the first of two 10-day contracts.
Non factor
February 18, 2010: As part of a 3-team trade, the Houston Rockets traded Joey Dorsey and Carl Landry to the Sacramento Kings; the Houston Rockets traded Tracy McGrady to the New York Knicks; the New York Knicks traded Jordan Hill, Jared Jeffries and a future 1st round draft pick to the Houston Rockets; the New York Knicks traded Larry Hughes to the Sacramento Kings; the Sacramento Kings traded Hilton Armstrong and Kevin Martin to the Houston Rockets; and the Sacramento Kings traded Sergio Rodriguez to the New York Knicks. Houston had the right to swap 1st round draft picks with New York in 2011 but did not do so.
Good move
March 2, 2010: Signed Will Conroy to a 10-day contract.
Non factor
March 24, 2010: Signed Mike Harris to a contract for the rest of the season.
Non factor
June 24, 2010: Selected Patrick Patterson (1st round, 14th pick) in the 2010 NBA Draft.
Jury is still out but the only people other than PP I would consider here was Bledso and Orton
July 20, 2010: Signed Brad Miller as a free agent.
Didn't work out
July 28, 2010: Traded David Andersen to the Toronto Raptors for cash and a 2015 2nd round draft pick.
Non factor
August 11, 2010: As part of a 4-team trade, the Houston Rockets traded Trevor Ariza to the New Orleans Hornets; the Indiana Pacers traded Troy Murphy to the New Jersey Nets; the New Jersey Nets traded Courtney Lee to the Houston Rockets; and the New Orleans Hornets traded Darren Collison and James Posey to the Indiana Pacers.
Good move
August 23, 2010: Signed Ishmael Smith as a free agent.
Non factor
September 24, 2010: Signed Antonio Anderson as a free agent.
Non factor
December 15, 2010: As part of a 3-team trade, the Houston Rockets traded a 2012 1st round draft pick to the New Jersey Nets; the Houston Rockets traded Sergei Lishouk to the Los Angeles Lakers; the Los Angeles Lakers traded Sasha Vujacic and a 2011 1st round draft pick (JaJuan Johnson) to the New Jersey Nets; the New Jersey Nets traded Terrence Williams to the Houston Rockets; and the New Jersey Nets traded Joe Smith, a 2011 2nd round draft pick (Darius Morris) and a 2012 2nd round draft pick to the Los Angeles Lakers.
Terrible move
December 15, 2010: Traded Jermaine Taylor and cash to the Sacramento Kings for a 2011 2nd round draft pick. Houston did not receive the 2nd round draft pick because it was top 55 protected.
Bad move
February 24, 2011: Traded Aaron Brooks to the Phoenix Suns for Goran Dragic and a 2011 1st round draft pick (Nikola Mirotic).
Good move
February 24, 2011: Traded Shane Battier and Ishmael Smith to the Memphis Grizzlies for DeMarre Carroll, Hasheem Thabeet and a future 1st round draft pick.
Good move
March 23, 2011: Signed Mike Harris to the first of two 10-day contracts.
Non factor
April 11, 2011: Signed Marcus Cousin as a free agent.
Non factor
April 13, 2011: Signed Marqus Blakely as a free agent.
Non factor
June 23, 2011: Selected Marcus Morris (1st round, 14th pick), Nikola Mirotic (1st round, 23rd pick) and Chandler Parsons (2nd round, 38th pick) in the 2011 NBA Draft.
June 23, 2011: Traded Brad Miller, Nikola Mirotic, Chandler Parsons and a future 1st round draft pick to the Minnesota Timberwolves for Jonny Flynn, Donatas Motiejunas and a future 2nd round draft pick.
As of right now this is a good trade, but it depends on A. What Donatas turns into. B. What the 1st round pick we sent ends up being
June 23, 2011: Traded cash to the Minnesota Timberwolves for Chandler Parsons.
Someone was confused
December 12, 2011: Signed Jeremy Lin as a free agent.
Good move, should have kept him over Flynn!!!!
December 20, 2011: Signed Jeff Adrien as a free agent.
Non factor
December 24, 2011: Signed Samuel Dalembert as a free agent.
Neccessary move. Kind of costly though
February 8, 2012: Signed Greg Smith as a free agent.
Jury is still out
March 15, 2012: Traded Jordan Hill to the Los Angeles Lakers for Derek Fisher and a future 1st round draft pick.
Good move
March 15, 2012: Traded Jonny Flynn, Hasheem Thabeet and a future 2nd round draft pick to the Portland Trail Blazers for Marcus Camby.
Good move
March 18, 2012: Signed Courtney Fortson to a 10-day contract, then signed to a contract for the rest of the season.
Non factor
March 26, 2012: Signed Earl Boykins to two 10-day contracts, then signed to a contract for the rest of the season.
Non factor
April 12, 2012: Signed Diamon Simpson to a contract for the rest of the season.
Non factor

Something not listed here was having problems with Adelman, forcing the team to go from a great coach to an average coach.

Moreys moves have been more insignificant than anything. Its time for him to do something to turn this team around

Morey is one of the best/sharpest GMs in the league.

He constantly shifts the odds in our favor and takes calculated, low risk-high reward moves.

He's had some terrible luck and is being put in a tough situation by Mr. Alexander's brilliant rebuild-without-tanking plan.

The 2nd rounder we got for Novak turned into Chandler Parsons and trading Taylor for a top-55 2nd rounder had to be done to clear a roster spot for T-Will.
Also while most of of these no-name signing turned ultimately out to be non-factors, they were smart signings at the time in case we had needed salary fillers on draft night.
I don't like Dalembert, but at the cost we got him it was a pretty decent move.

overrated by desperate rockets fans
scola is san anotonio messed up

average gm

no hes not great no wizard no god just average

draft wise

2007
#26 Aaron Brooks...........should have taken...........#27 Arron Afflalo
#31 Carl Landry.............should have taken...........#48 Marc Gasol
#54 Brad Newley............should have taken...........#56 Ramon Sessions

2008
#25 Nicolas Batum----------should have kept him instead of trading for #28 Dontae Green
#33 Joey Dorsey------------should have taken..........#35 DeAndre Jordan, #36 Asik or #46 Dragic
#54 Maarty Luenen---------should have taken..........#60 Semih Erden

2009
#32 Jermaine Taylor-------should have taken..........#37 DeJuan Blair or #43 Marcus Thornton
#34 Sergio Llull............INC
#44 Chase Budinger........good pick

2010
#14 Patrick Patterson.........should have taken.......#18 Eric Bledsoe, #19 Avery Bradley, #39 Landry Fields or Jeremy Lin

2011
#14 Marcus Morris.........should have taken #15 Kawhi Leonard, #23 Kenneth Faried, #17 Iman Shumpert
#38 Chandler Parsons------good pick

Morey's three best trades were Alston for Lowry; Brooks for Dragic & 1st Round pick......and the one that got Stern-blocked and completely f'd over the whole franchise for the season.

Brooks - i have no idea who he is, i wanted Landry at #26, well we got him at #31

no comment on Batum cause that pick got us Artest and he helped us get to 2nd round playoff in long time
i wanted Darrell Arthur for that pick
Dorsey -- i was shaking my head, there are still good center available but he drafted the shortest one

Patterson - i actually wanted Bradley

Morris - yes i wanted Leonard

these players may not be as good playing for Rockets
but i can say i will draft better in 1st round than Morey
and i'm not even qualify as a GM
maybe he needs to hire me as scout

Texasholdem what happened?

I used to never agree with your posts, now I agree with most of them.

Note that Carl was REALLY REALLY good before he got shot in the leg and (I think) hurt his knee (?). He just hasn't been the same player since..

#25 Nicolas Batum----------should have kept him instead of trading for #28 Dontae Green
- Going for Artest/Battier as a defensive duo wasn't a bad plan, really. Then Yao and McGrady went down iirc and Artest lost 4 steps.

#33 Joey Dorsey------------should have taken..........#35 DeAndre Jordan, #36 Asik or #46 Dragic
- Picking a hard-rebounding big isn't usually a bad idea, we just picked the wrong one.

#32 Jermaine Taylor-------should have taken..........#37 DeJuan Blair or #43 Marcus Thornton
Yes.
#14 Marcus Morris.........should have taken #15 Kawhi Leonard, #23 Kenneth Faried, #17 Iman Shumpert
YES.

DeAndre Jordan was really raw at the time, consider worse than Dorsey
i don't know about Asik

I don't think Artest was yet in the plans on draft night.
We traded Batum for Dontae Greene on June 26, 2008 and then traded him for Artest on August 14, 2008 so strictly from a Batum vs Greene+Dorsey point of view, it was a mistake

You guys understand though that we never actually intended to draft Batum, right?
The Blazers were high on Batum, so they traded their two picks to move up a few spots. We never drafted Batum to play for us.

Now this doesn't make it any better and looking back it was a bad move, but hindsight is 20/20 and it didn't really matter because we ended up moving Greene for Artest anyway (which definitely was a good move on its own).

texasholdem wrote:I don't think Artest was yet in the plans on draft night.
We traded Batum for Dontae Greene on June 26, 2008 and then traded him for Artest on August 14, 2008 so strictly from a Batum vs Greene+Dorsey point of view, it was a mistake

i know but Morey make up for his mistake by trading Greene away when he was balling in summer league (when his stock is all time high)

Best GM in the league easily.

OK how about, would you rather have Batum for 4 years or Artest for 1 year? Remember he was a free agent to be when we traded for him. It was kinda like the Astros trading for Randy Johnson. Giving up young talent for a rental.

texasholdem wrote:OK how about, would you rather have Batum for 4 years or Artest for 1 year? Remember he was a free agent to be when we traded for him. It was kinda like the Astros trading for Randy Johnson. Giving up young talent for a rental.

trading for Artest was an investment to push us to the next step
unfortunately Yao or TMac is not really healthy and TMac never play well with Artest
you know if the trio really work we will re-sign Artest back for few more years
it's just bad luck Yao career ended

Morey did pretty good in trading before he keep trading for those 2009 lottery picks
2nd round picks -- he drafted and bought so many and some of them work out well
1st round picks -- other than Brooks and Patterson (maybe), he hasn't done a good job with the rest

He's done wonders in regards to what he had to work with. The only real blunder I think was trading for Terrence Williams, then pretty much releasing him.

Outside of that, he's been EXCELLENT at drafting. I really, really wish we would just acquire a top pick once. That's all this team needs. Morey with a chance to get a top 3-5 prospect of any draft, and the other pieces are there. Wish we would've pulled off something for DeMarcus Cousins.

MaxRider wrote:

texasholdem wrote:OK how about, would you rather have Batum for 4 years or Artest for 1 year? Remember he was a free agent to be when we traded for him. It was kinda like the Astros trading for Randy Johnson. Giving up young talent for a rental.

trading for Artest was an investment to push us to the next step
unfortunately Yao or TMac is not really healthy and TMac never play well with Artest
you know if the trio really work we will re-sign Artest back for few more years
it's just bad luck Yao career ended

I understand why they did it but in retrospect it was a mistake.
Just like the Barkley for Horry, Cassell trade was a mistake.
Just like the Battier for Gay trade was a mistake.

ComeAtMeBro wrote:He's done wonders in regards to what he had to work with. The only real blunder I think was trading for Terrence Williams, then pretty much releasing him.

Outside of that, he's been EXCELLENT at drafting. I really, really wish we would just acquire a top pick once. That's all this team needs. Morey with a chance to get a top 3-5 prospect of any draft, and the other pieces are there. Wish we would've pulled off something for DeMarcus Cousins.

excellent drafting?
i guess you didn't look at the list on how many he failed

texasholdem wrote:

MaxRider wrote:

texasholdem wrote:OK how about, would you rather have Batum for 4 years or Artest for 1 year? Remember he was a free agent to be when we traded for him. It was kinda like the Astros trading for Randy Johnson. Giving up young talent for a rental.

trading for Artest was an investment to push us to the next step
unfortunately Yao or TMac is not really healthy and TMac never play well with Artest
you know if the trio really work we will re-sign Artest back for few more years
it's just bad luck Yao career ended

I understand why they did it but in retrospect it was a mistake.
Just like the Barkley for Horry, Cassell trade was a mistake.
Just like the Battier for Gay trade was a mistake.

hard to compare
Artest trade was a backup plan in case Yao or TMac went down
bad news is both went down and so is Mutombo
that just bad luck

Barkley for Horry, Cassell was really really bad
because we just won the champ and you don't break up the team for that

Battier for Gay was bad because Battier isn't the missing piece and we have 3 holes to fill and Morey only fill one of them