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What would you give up for Al Jefferson

Posted: Tue Jun 5, 2012 5:37 pm
by SoCalJazzFan
JAzz fan here. Curious to know what you guys would be willing to give up for Al Jefferson?

What about Jefferson and Devin Harris combo (in the event Dragic become too expensive or unattainable and Lowry sticks to his comments about McHale)?

Would Lowry, either Martin or Scola, and one of your first round picks this year be out of the question for Jefferson and Harris?

Re: What would you give up for Al Jefferson

Posted: Tue Jun 5, 2012 5:49 pm
by x-
SoCalJazzFan wrote:JAzz fan here. Curious to know what you guys would be willing to give up for Al Jefferson?


Not much personally.

Jefferson isn't what we need, so unless we get him for the cheap, I can't see us trading for him.

SoCalJazzFan wrote:Would Lowry, either Martin or Scola, and one of your first round picks this year be out of the question for Jefferson and Harris?


Yes.

Re: What would you give up for Al Jefferson

Posted: Tue Jun 5, 2012 5:50 pm
by MaxRider
nothing

Re: What would you give up for Al Jefferson

Posted: Tue Jun 5, 2012 6:00 pm
by texasholdem
McHale loves Al Jefferson. Remember he traded Kevin Garnett to Boston and got AJ in return when he was still the Wolves GM.

Daryl Morey was a member of the Celtics front office when they drafted Jefferson.

Re: What would you give up for Al Jefferson

Posted: Tue Jun 5, 2012 6:08 pm
by x-
texasholdem wrote:Remember he traded Kevin Garnett to Boston and got AJ in return when he was still the Wolves GM.


That's actually not quite accurate.

McHale actually did not make that deal. The T-Wolves owner did.
McHale and Ainge couldn't agree on a deal (McHale was insisting on the Celtics giving up Rondo, which Ainge wasn't willing to), so the Celtics and T-Wolves owners overtook the negotiations and the Wolves ultimately gave in (They got Telfair instead :lol: ).

EDIT: found a link: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/ ... o-Chapter7

The principal owner of the Boston Celtics, Wyc Grousbeck, owns a home on the island and, the night before, had dined with the principal owner of the Boston Red Sox. The Celtics were hot on the trail of Kevin Garnett, convinced that the addition of the so-called Big Ticket, along with the previous addition of Ray Allen, would catapult the Celtics from lottery loser to NBA championship contender.

There was one problem. The Timberwolves were insisting that Rajon Rondo, who had just finished his rookie season, be included in the deal. Celtics GM Danny Ainge refused to part with Rondo, the speedy, athletic point guard he had personally plucked out of the 2006 draft. Minnesota GM Kevin McHale, a friend and former teammate of Ainge, was equally insistent that Rondo be in the deal.

The two GMs turned it over to their respective bosses to finish or squash the deal. Grousbeck had already talked to Minnesota owner Glen Taylor and Grousbeck had made it clear: Rondo was not going anywhere. As Grousbeck explained to Taylor, Rondo was the Celtics' starting point guard. He would not necessarily be so in Minnesota, which had Marko Jaric, the newly drafted Randy Foye and the veteran Troy Hudson on its roster. Clearly, Grousbeck explained further, Rondo was far more valuable to Boston than he would be to Minnesota.

Taylor didn't buy it. Why, he wondered, would the Celtics jeopardize a deal for a first-ballot Hall of Famer, a game-changer, for a player who had been in the league for only one season? All the other pieces were in place. But the Timberwolves demanded Rondo. Grousbeck would not budge and told Taylor to get back to him no later than 5 p.m. that day. He had to know either way. Grousbeck also agreed to pay a portion of Sebastian Telfair's salary. The Celtics were quite willing to include him in the deal instead of Rondo.

Grousbeck was alone on the aforementioned beach when his cellphone rang. It was the end of July. It was Taylor on the line. He had blinked. The Timberwolves would take Telfair and drop their demand that Rondo be included in the deal.

Taylor should not have been surprised. The Celtics had done the same thing a month earlier, when they acquired Allen on draft night in a multiplayer deal. The Sonics had asked for Rondo. The Celtics came back with Delonte West. But Seattle was desperate to get the Celtics' No. 5 overall pick (which they turned into Jeff Green) and were not nearly as hard to placate as the Timberwolves.

In the space of a year, Rondo had gone from a draft pick in the 20s to a deal breaker in two separate trades for future Hall of Famers. Either deal could have, and would have, been blown up had the Sonics or Timberwolves held firm.

"Rondo was not going to be traded. Period,'' said Grousbeck.

Re: What would you give up for Al Jefferson

Posted: Tue Jun 5, 2012 8:53 pm
by jwise44
Lowry martin or Scola AND a first? Hahahahahaha

I would like him, but Im not 100% I would do Lowry al Jeff straight up even after lowrys voiced displeasure

I would do Martin Scola for him...MAYBE give the dal pick cuz I'm pretty sure u would be taking on salary

Re: What would you give up for Al Jefferson

Posted: Tue Jun 5, 2012 10:37 pm
by zapatasblood
Is the GS pick coming with him

Re: What would you give up for Al Jefferson

Posted: Wed Jun 6, 2012 12:41 am
by rocketsballin
he's a dope expiring at 15mili. what stars are free agents in 2013? (other than dwight howard). i know josh smith is.

HOWEVAAAAAAH, we are not giving up lowry, martin AND a first for al and devin. that's not even a "one step forward/two steps back" move. its more like a "no steps forward, two steps back" move.

Re: What would you give up for Al Jefferson

Posted: Wed Jun 6, 2012 12:48 am
by Mr. E
SoCalJazzFan wrote:Would Lowry, either Martin or Scola, and one of your first round picks this year be out of the question for Jefferson and Harris?


Very much out of the question. I think that you're overestimating Jefferson's value - at least to this team. I don't see him as the type of player who you want to commit that kind of money towards.

Re: What would you give up for Al Jefferson

Posted: Wed Jun 6, 2012 12:53 am
by TMU
Harris is probably in my top 5 list of players that I don't want on this team.

Re: What would you give up for Al Jefferson

Posted: Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:11 am
by Mr. E
TMU wrote:Harris is probably in my top 5 list of players that I don't want on this team.


If only we had a thread for that! ;)

Re: What would you give up for Al Jefferson

Posted: Wed Jun 6, 2012 8:39 pm
by SoCalJazzFan
Thanks for your thoughts. I thought given McHale's love of big men, and particularly Jefferson, and the percieved need/want for a decent center (Houston in every discussion of D12 and Gasol), this would have piqued more interest.