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Post#1 » by 90sAllDecade » Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:45 pm

I didn't see many threads about him. What do you think of him, could he be a star someday? What's his ceiling?

He shows up and competes with the best so far:

Vs. Paul Pierce 19 pts 9 rebs 8 ast
vs. Rudy Gay 19 pts 5 rebs 2 ast
vs. Carmelo 31 pts 5 rebs 4 ast 4 stl
vs. Lebron 25 pts 4 rebs 3 ast 2 stl

I noticed him use a post move last game. If he develops a post game and learns to consistently create his own shot & draw fouls, I think he could reach 20 pts a game and be a star.

What type do you think he'll end up like, Battier 2.0 or a better player?
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Post#2 » by madbucky » Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:10 am

90sAllDecade wrote:I didn't see many threads about him. What do you think of him, could he be a star someday? What's his ceiling?


I think he can be a star, he's already getting close to Rudy Gay numbers.
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Post#3 » by LarsV8 » Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:27 am

Funny, peope really wanted us to draft Leonard, but this guy is just better than Leonard and we snagged Morris in the process, who could be good down the road as well.

He is a utility guy, not really star material in my opinion. That doesn't mean he can't be really really good at what he does. He plays the same role as Battier but is a very different kind of player. He is an opportunist who feeds off other peoples mistakes and gets easy transition buckets and open looks for shots.

Plays alot like AK47 or a Tay Prince. Great kind of player to have on your roster though. If he keeps his 3 point shooting around 40% and can get his FT%s up to about 80-85%, he would be unreal.

The best thing about him is he is far and away the best contract in the league with making less than a million dollars this year, next year AND THE YEAR AFTER THAT!!!

Problem is he would likely be the most sought after piece in any big trades we make.
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Post#4 » by rocketsballin » Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:31 am

good observatation. i ddint know he was playing that good vs the best of his position

he can be a glue guy type of player. but his defense will never be on battier's level. kobe said it himself that battier was the hardest for him to score on. he was arguably the best wing defender of his time. parsons is a good defender, but i doubt he'll ever be elite.

definitely will have a few years of being an all star nominee. such a **** steal

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Post#5 » by kam_soluusar » Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:42 am

As I have stated earlier, I wouldn't trade him if we were offered Chuckwagon and Mandry as well.

So I guess that is saying that I am pretty high on his game, (and other substances coloured green as well!)
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Post#6 » by Mr. E » Sun Dec 16, 2012 1:18 am

kam_soluusar wrote:As I have stated earlier, I wouldn't trade him if we were offered Chuckwagon and Mandry as well.

So I guess that is saying that I am pretty high on his game, (and other substances coloured green as well!)


:o :o :o


God help Morey if he trades this guy! Kam will go postal! :lol:
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Post#7 » by Icness » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:18 am

I really enjoy watching him play. His hoops IQ is so high and he's a sneaky-good athlete. My son has really taken to him as his new favorite Rocket now that Bud is gone.
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Post#8 » by TMU » Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:27 am

90sAllDecade wrote:I didn't see many threads about him. What do you think of him, could he be a star someday? What's his ceiling?

He shows up and competes with the best so far:

Vs. Paul Pierce 19 pts 9 rebs 8 ast
vs. Rudy Gay 19 pts 5 rebs 2 ast
vs. Carmelo 31 pts 5 rebs 4 ast 4 stl
vs. Lebron 25 pts 4 rebs 3 ast 2 stl

I noticed him use a post move last game. If he develops a post game and learns to consistently create his own shot & draw fouls, I think he could reach 20 pts a game and be a star.

What type do you think he'll end up like, Battier 2.0 or a better player?


I never imagined Parsons to be this good in the NBA, especially on defense. I don't see him as a star in this league, but he's a very good player and he's probably already better than Battier ever was.

Certainly very fun to watch with his hustle, defense, and that high arching slingshot.

LarsV8 wrote:Funny, peope really wanted us to draft Leonard, but this guy is just better than Leonard and we snagged Morris in the process, who could be good down the road as well.

He is a utility guy, not really star material in my opinion. That doesn't mean he can't be really really good at what he does. He plays the same role as Battier but is a very different kind of player. He is an opportunist who feeds off other peoples mistakes and gets easy transition buckets and open looks for shots.

Plays alot like AK47 or a Tay Prince. Great kind of player to have on your roster though. If he keeps his 3 point shooting around 40% and can get his FT%s up to about 80-85%, he would be unreal.

The best thing about him is he is far and away the best contract in the league with making less than a million dollars this year, next year AND THE YEAR AFTER THAT!!!

Problem is he would likely be the most sought after piece in any big trades we make.


Nice post. I love the similarity.
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Post#9 » by 90sAllDecade » Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:48 pm

Good comments and points by all. I think him and Faried (who I also wanted to draft) so far, may have been the biggest steals of the 2011 draft.

LarsV8 wrote:Funny, peope really wanted us to draft Leonard, but this guy is just better than Leonard and we snagged Morris in the process, who could be good down the road as well.

He is a utility guy, not really star material in my opinion. That doesn't mean he can't be really really good at what he does. He plays the same role as Battier but is a very different kind of player. He is an opportunist who feeds off other peoples mistakes and gets easy transition buckets and open looks for shots.

Plays alot like AK47 or a Tay Prince. Great kind of player to have on your roster though. If he keeps his 3 point shooting around 40% and can get his FT%s up to about 80-85%, he would be unreal.

The best thing about him is he is far and away the best contract in the league with making less than a million dollars this year, next year AND THE YEAR AFTER THAT!!!

Problem is he would likely be the most sought after piece in any big trades we make.


This is a great perspective, their numbers and games do have similarities.

All those comparison guys all have elite wing defense and utility skills, something I hope he develops in time. I think Tayshaun & AK are great role models for him, AK made an all star game, and Tayshaun was a defensive monster who developed a nice post game and off the dribble offense moves later on.

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Icness wrote:I really enjoy watching him play. His hoops IQ is so high and he's a sneaky-good athlete. My son has really taken to him as his new favorite Rocket now that Bud is gone.


He is a lot of fun to watch, it's going to be great seeing him & this young Rockets squad develop.
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Post#10 » by Zubby » Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:05 pm

You must be new...
Everybody knows Chandler Parsons is THE White LBJ.


AK47 & Prince?
NO not even close.

Prince is a spot up shooter & excellent man defender. Not much of a rebounder, or playmaker. Not really a stat stuffer.

AK47 is not much of a shooter, he is the most underrated player of this generation though. He is not much of a playmaker but a good passer, excellent man & weak side defender, can literally guard all 5 positions.


SO those two guys imo aren't even similar.

Parsons is a slasher & a playmaker, who like the other two guys is a dare I say excellent defender.

You will never see AK47/Prince initiate a play at the top of the arc, or push the break as often as you will Parsons.
You will never see either of those two bullet a pass with both hands/left hand/right hand chest or bounce with amazing movement as Parsons.




The only similarities are they are all tall defenders who move well... except Prince and AK47 take the "freak length" to a whole other level.
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Post#11 » by Zubby » Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:12 pm

He is Kobe...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c99WSkhY6Nc[/youtube]

Did you notice the look in Mamba's eyes?


Thats call fear! He don't wanna see #25 step on that court!


Melo/Bron also commented on Parsons skill... One of them said they were a fan of his(probably Melo as we all know Bron hates his alter ego/twin not sure which yet)



Oh and my fav. Parsons clip its a screener:

Wait for the smirk lol
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Post#12 » by TMACFORMVP » Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:12 pm

Whenever I'm trying to tell people bout Parsons..I compare him to Igoudala..great all round players that are terrific in the open court offensively with streaky-ish jumpers (tho both Parsons and Igoudala have improved in that aspect). He's not as good, but they share a lot of similarities IMO.
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Post#13 » by Zubby » Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:18 pm

Yea Iggy comparison is spot on.
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Post#14 » by Slava » Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:27 pm

Iggy has a lot more play-making ability that Parsons but Parsons is a more consistent shooter. I don't think that comparison is apt because Iggy is more of an on-ball player and Parsons excels with his off-ball movement and cuts. Both are good in the open court though but that's where the similarity ends.
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Post#15 » by x- » Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:06 pm

Parsons is like a black Paul George.
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Post#16 » by HTown_TMac » Mon Dec 17, 2012 8:07 pm

AK47 is one of the best comparisons.. though I'd take a prime AK over Parsons.
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Post#17 » by Slava » Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:45 pm

IMO the best comparison for him is a better shooting version of Trevor Ariza [2009] without may be the same kind of insane body control near the basket.
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Post#18 » by Daggy » Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:48 pm

He can shoot... just... don't know how he will fare in playoff intensity games, he just doesn't give off the air that he'll ever be able to carry the team for a game or two, so don't know how to rank him. Not elite on my book, but he keeps surprising me.
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Post#19 » by 90sAllDecade » Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:50 am

New article on Parsons from Fran Blinebury, who used to write for the Chronicle:

UNHERALDED PARSONS IS HUMMING NOW

HOUSTON – The man from the radio station has him running through a list of the familiar questions: favorite restaurants and foods and things to like about Christmas, when suddenly here comes a curveball.
“Do you know the words to Rudolph?”
Chandler Parsons grins while looking around for a way out.

“I guess the smart answer for me at this point would be to say no,” he replies.
Then a few seconds later, his head is bouncing up and down as he’s singing: “… and if you ever saw it, you would even say it glows.”

Why not? Parsons is having the time of his life.

In a season when the first verse of every song about the Rockets centers on the high-profile backcourt pairing of James Harden and Jeremy Lin, Parsons has been in the background providing the chorus. The 6-foot-9 forward is averaging 15.3 points, 6.6 rebounds and 3.7 assists per game. The fact is he scores significantly more than the heralded Lin (11.3) and ranks 12th in the league in average minutes played (37.6).
“Where would we be without Chandler?” asked Rockets’ assistant Kelvin Sampson, who served as interim coach for nearly a month when Kevin McHale took a sabbatical. “Not as much in the mix of a lot of games.”
Parsons has been the stirrer, whether by making 3-point shots, driving to the hoop or hitting the boards. He’s one of those players who finds a way to get a rebound, a tip-in, a loose ball, anything to make something happen. The kind of role-filler that every good team seems to have.

So how does that kind of player have workouts for 17 different teams prior to the 2011 draft and have all but one pass on him? How does a live wire not make a spark to be selected until the 38th pick of the second round?

“Because he’s not great at any one specific thing,” Sampson said. “He doesn’t seem to have a discernible talent. I don’t know if enough people in the NBA value intangibles when it comes time to draft or acquire players.”

Parsons first opened Sampson’s eyes early last season during a practice when after a defensive switch he was suddenly matched up against 6-foot point guard Jonny Flynn.
“I’m thinking, ‘Oh, this will be interesting,’ ” Sampson said. “But I’m telling you Jonny Flynn did everything he could to get by Chandler and he couldn’t. He moved his feet and he kept in front of him. Left, right. Time after time. Jonny Flynn couldn’t find a way around.

“Then I noticed that in our 2-on-2, drills, 3-on-3, 4-on-4, 5-on-5, Chandler’s team always won. There’s a value to that. That’s a big deal to me. After all, winning is what we’re supposed to be all about.”
General manager Daryl Morey says the non-traditional analytics used by the Rockets actually rated Parsons high.

“I think often teams believe that guys that play roles in college can’t translate that over to the NBA,” he said. “But the truth is we’ve got him doing the same things here that he did at Florida.

“It’s hard to know for sure what happened. It’s not an exact science. Obviously, he shouldn’t have made it to 38.”

When the lockout hit a year ago, Parsons signed to play in France to stay active and upon his return was forced to miss just about all of the abbreviated training camp while bureaucratic details with his contract were being worked out. Yet Parsons quickly found his way into the lineup, starting 57 of the 66 games and watched over the summer as the Rockets did a purge of almost their entire roster, trying to land Dwight Howard, and eventually bringing in free agents Lin and Omer Asik. But there were several weeks when he was one of the few holdovers and the Rockets sent him out into the community as a face of the franchise.
“I was watching all of the things that were going on, seeing what Daryl was doing and it got me excited,” Parsons said. “I kept thinking that I was glad that I was staying. Or at least I hoped to be staying.”

He spent the offseason in the gym working religiously on his outside shooting. He knew the only way he would ever get to do the things he liked in the NBA — attacking the basket to make plays for himself and his teammates — was to make defenses honor him on the perimeter.

“I was always shooting the ball differently last season,” Parsons said. “I had no arc on my shot. It was flat. Everything was a fadeaway. I wouldn’t hold on my release. It took thousands and thousands of shots in the summer, but now I feel comfortable.”

His 3-point shooting has improved from 33.7 percent to 37.5 and his free throws from 55.1 to 72.6. He’s scored in double figures 17 times in the 23 games he’s played and had his biggest games against high profile teams — 25 vs. the Heat, 24 vs. the Lakers and 31 vs. the Knicks, 20 vs. the Spurs.

“I think the best thing I do on the court is my playmaking,” Parsons said. “And I think now that teams are respecting me more for my shot, it opens up the floor for me. Now I’m shot-faking, making plays for other guys and having the time of my life playing ball for a living and doing anything they want. I’ll sing. I’ll dance.”
For now, the Rockets will be content to keep Parsons humming.


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Post#20 » by rocketsballin » Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:47 am

zubby's gonna read that at least 5 times

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