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Give Dwight more touches of the ball!

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:15 am
by dunleavyjr
Dwight needs to shoot the ball at least 15-20 times per game! Guys need to feed him more in the post. 6 to 10 field goal attempts per game is only for role players. D12 ain't no role players.

Re: Give Dwight more touches of the ball!

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:50 am
by Zubby
Preaching to the choir... low iq team

Re: Give Dwight more touches of the ball!

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:27 am
by hayden
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nfgZX92cKg[/youtube]

Re: Give Dwight more touches of the ball!

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:48 am
by TMACFORMVP
I agree that Dwight should be heavily involved in our offense, but I disagree with trying to get him the ball in the post and run our offense through him with a bunch of shot attempts. I frankly don't think he's a good enough post player to warrant that, and most importantly, I think we are a more effective offense when he's screening well, and our perimeter players are breaking down the defense and generating open three point shots. It also helps our transition game when we're playing with that sort of pace.

It's worth mentioning that when Dwight gets UNDER 10 FGA in a game, we are 9-2 (including today unfortunately). If you make it 10 attempts or less, then we're 12-3. This means, we are 4-6 when Dwight gets more than 10 FGA. I don't know if it's that dramatic a difference, but I do think there are a few things we can take away from that.

Re: Give Dwight more touches of the ball!

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:07 pm
by KungFuJoe
TMACFORMVP wrote:I agree that Dwight should be heavily involved in our offense, but I disagree with trying to get him the ball in the post and run our offense through him with a bunch of shot attempts. I frankly don't think he's a good enough post player to warrant that, and most importantly, I think we are a more effective offense when he's screening well, and our perimeter players are breaking down the defense and generating open three point shots. It also helps our transition game when we're playing with that sort of pace.

It's worth mentioning that when Dwight gets UNDER 10 FGA in a game, we are 9-2 (including today unfortunately). If you make it 10 attempts or less, then we're 12-3. This means, we are 4-6 when Dwight gets more than 10 FGA. I don't know if it's that dramatic a difference, but I do think there are a few things we can take away from that.


Agree with this and even I'm surprised at their record when he gets more than 10 attempts.

He's just not that good in the post.

I think people expect the Howard from Orlando to show up and I think that Howard is long gone. He was ALL athleticism back then and now that injuries have slowed him down some, it's really hurt his offensive game.

I can't see a team being title contenders with Howard as the focal point of the offense. Honestly, on a team like the Rockets, he should be the third/fourth option when Harden, Parsons and even Lin/Casspi are in.

I think the team would function the best if he was strictly a defender/rebounder/clean up the trash kinda guy...getting about 6-8 shot attempts outside of offensive rebounds.

Re: Give Dwight more touches of the ball!

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:12 pm
by moofs
KungFuJoe wrote:I think the team would function the best if he was strictly a defender/rebounder/clean up the trash kinda guy...getting about 6-8 shot attempts outside of offensive rebounds.


Ben Wallace Lite/Deluxe? I can go with that.

Re: Give Dwight more touches of the ball!

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:16 pm
by zapatasblood
Paying him max money to be Ben Wallace man that sucks. Hated the signing from the get go. Anyways if Howard could play the post then fine give him more touches but he can't and won't really run p&r.

Re: Give Dwight more touches of the ball!

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:24 pm
by MaxRider
he has enough touches
he just doesn't shoot it everytime he has the ball

Re: Give Dwight more touches of the ball!

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:46 pm
by moofs
zapatasblood wrote:Paying him max money to be Ben Wallace man that sucks. Hated the signing from the get go. Anyways if Howard could play the post then fine give him more touches but he can't and won't really run p&r.


You could look at it that way, since he didn't score, but I personally think BWallace was the best player on the 03-04 Pistons, by far.

Re: Give Dwight more touches of the ball!

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:50 pm
by tha_rock220
moofs wrote:
KungFuJoe wrote:I think the team would function the best if he was strictly a defender/rebounder/clean up the trash kinda guy...getting about 6-8 shot attempts outside of offensive rebounds.


Ben Wallace Lite/Deluxe? I can go with that.


The difference is Ben Wallace was happy in that role. If the Rockets try to use Dwight that way he's going to throw a hissy fit and put less effort into rebounding and defense.

Re: Give Dwight more touches of the ball!

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:59 pm
by KungFuJoe
Dwight's TOs are a big problem.

He leads ALL PFs in TO's per game (3.2) and per 48 (4.6). The next guy after him is Griffin at 2.8 per game and 3.5 per48.

Among all centers and PFs, only Cousins averages more TOs per game and per48. But he is the focal point on offense whereas Howard is an afterthought most of the time.

In the last two games, he's attempted 13 shots...but has turned the ball over 10 times.

Re: Give Dwight more touches of the ball!

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:45 pm
by MaxRider
KungFuJoe wrote:Dwight's TOs are a big problem.

He leads ALL PFs in TO's per game (3.2) and per 48 (4.6). The next guy after him is Griffin at 2.8 per game and 3.5 per48.

Among all centers and PFs, only Cousins averages more TOs per game and per48. But he is the focal point on offense whereas Howard is an afterthought most of the time.

In the last two games, he's attempted 13 shots...but has turned the ball over 10 times.

offensive foul count as turnover
i see howard avg at least 2 offensive foul per game
he always get call for moving screen and opponent flop on him when he's posting up

Re: Give Dwight more touches of the ball!

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:25 am
by NamelessHero
howard is our best player give him the ball to make him happy even if it will cost us a few games...he will attract 3rd star as well...

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Re: Give Dwight more touches of the ball!

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:09 pm
by Nebula1
Dwight Howard finds joy in game after leaving L.A.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/dwight-howard-finds-joy-in-game-after-leaving-l-a-065641875.html

OAKLAND, Calif. – Dwight Howard made all seven of his free throws in last week's victory over the Golden State Warriors, a landmark accomplishment for the Houston Rockets center, given his career-long struggles at the foul line. In the locker room after the game, Howard turned toward a trash basket and tossed in a crumpled piece of paper.

"Eight for 8," he bellowed in front of his laughing teammates.

Howard's big smile and silliness – missing, at times, during his lone, lost season with the Los Angeles Lakers – have returned. So, too, has his dominance.

"He is in a good place and back to being a dominating center in the league," Rockets forward Chandler Parsons said. "Everyone on our team and in our city has embraced his personality and taken him in and love him being in Houston. … I wouldn't want anyone else as my center."

Howard has needed some time to transition to the Rockets. In a one-point loss to the Lakers on Nov. 7, he missed 11 free throws. He averaged 16.7 points and 11.7 rebounds in November – respectable but not what he expected from himself.

Howard says he now has a "clear head," and it's shown: He's averaging 19.3 points and 15 rebounds while making 60.3 percent of his free throws.

"It took a couple games," Howard said. "I said, 'OK, that's the first 20 games. I got those out of the way.' I see what this team needs me to do to be effective …

"I understand that people want me to come down and score 30 points a night and 30 rebounds. That's not what it's going to take for us to win."

Said Rockets guard James Harden: "He's doing everything we ask him to do."

Howard cites an improved diet and mentoring from former Rockets general manager Carroll Dawson as reasons for his increased production. Howard has also spent a lot of his recent off nights in Houston working on his offensive game in a suburban high school gym. Assistant coach Greg Buckner attends the sessions and works with Howard on his post drills and free throws.

"It's really helping me with my touch and my free throws, just the little things," Howard said.

Howard has been one of the NBA's worst free-throw shooters for years. He shot 49 percent the past two seasons and hasn't cracked 60 percent since his rookie season.

Recently, Howard learned while watching video that he needed to stop leaning back on his attempts. Assistant coach Kelvin Sampson told him to look at the rim and say, "eyes, target, focus," before shooting. All the improvement Howard has shown this month was tempered when he went 5 of 13 from the line in the Rockets' loss to the Sacramento Kings on Sunday.

"It's all mental," Howard said.

Howard and the Rockets need to show more consistency in the tough Western Conference to land a high playoff seed. The Rockets' 16-9 record has them in fifth place in the West, but they've lost to the Lakers without Kobe Bryant and some of the worst NBA teams in Philadelphia, Utah and Sacramento. Houston is also just 6-6 on the road.

Howard said he and Harden have to be more accountable for keeping the Rockets focused and playing at a high level.

"It starts with me and James," Howard said. "We have to get into these guys when they are not ready to play and set a better example. We have to do a better job. We cannot let things like this continue to happen."

Re: Give Dwight more touches of the ball!

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:43 pm
by RSCD3_
tha_rock220 wrote:
moofs wrote:
KungFuJoe wrote:I think the team would function the best if he was strictly a defender/rebounder/clean up the trash kinda guy...getting about 6-8 shot attempts outside of offensive rebounds.


Ben Wallace Lite/Deluxe? I can go with that.


The difference is Ben Wallace was happy in that role. If the Rockets try to use Dwight that way he's going to throw a hissy fit and put less effort into rebounding and defense.


As a wandering piston fan I must tell you that ben was always complaining about how much he was used in the offense. The only reason it wasnt such a big deal was they were a winning team so he couldnt go public like now, also there was no twitter and stuff like that to spread rumours.

But I definitely agree dwight should be passed to when he is wide open right under the hoop not when he is 15 ft away.


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