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''When he's out, we have a more balanced attack,'' Parsons said of Harden. ''We run our sets and get the best shot available. When he's not there, we don't go one-on-one as much.''

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/parsons-ha ... --nba.html

Couldn't have said it better myself!

My response in the game thread:

"Wow, no kidding! Well I guess he's been on the team the longest. He could also add consistent D from everyone on the floor. It seems like Harden really is most suitable to come off the bench ala Manu. (I know, it won't happen, the McHale era is gone ) Our team would be most deadly if we use the conventional winning formula of getting everyone involved, especially in the low post and then have the two guard score at the end rather than trying to be like mike."

Pop coaches his stars, McHale lets his star coach him.

U "fans" are something else. Do ya watch other games?? Does Durant, Westbrook, Melo, Kobe not hog the ball?? Thats wat superstars do is hog the ball. Ya crying few years ago about getting a superstar and all this tank bs and now ya crying again about Harden. Time to burn his jersey? Trade him? Im sure 29 other teams would love to have him and maybe deserve him more. McHale has always and will continue to be the problem. Harden has flaws but damn there's no satisfaction with ya "fans". I like Parsons but no one on that team has the skill level Harden has. And thats SPEAKING THE TRUTH!

Alex I Be wrote:U "fans" are something else. Do ya watch other games?? Does Durant, Westbrook, Melo, Kobe not hog the ball?? Thats wat superstars do is hog the ball. Ya crying few years ago about getting a superstar and all this tank bs and now ya crying again about Harden. Time to burn his jersey? Trade him? Im sure 29 other teams would love to have him and maybe deserve him more. McHale has always and will continue to be the problem. Harden has flaws but damn there's no satisfaction with ya "fans". I like Parsons but no one on that team has the skill level Harden has. And thats SPEAKING THE TRUTH!

Why are you ripping on the fans? This is coming from Chandler Parsons who's being a leader and expressing his opinions. If the coaches fail to get the message across, maybe it's appropriate for the team captain to say something. You'd have a better argument if Harden was a proven superstar which is isn't yet. I applaud Chandler for the putting the team first over any one player.

Btw, I like Harden a lot and think he's a tremendous asset to the team when he's playing team-ball, perhaps Parsons is simply trying to convey that the team needs more of this.

Th new NBA is about building a brand with a franchise player. It's NOT about winning. Winning is 2nd to having a franchise player who takes 20-30 shots a game and have a brand to sell. There are so many 'dumb' and 'idiotic' fans that love and buy into this new NBA concept. I hate it.

Parson speaks the truth. It's been over 25 years (1989) since we beat SA and MAV in back to back games. This was done WITHOUT a ball hog and a guard that don't play defense. Here's the reason the Rockets won last night. Team ball and....lin's effort on Ellis.

Last Night:
Lin on Ellis... Ellis goes 3-10, for 6 points

Back in November:
Harden on Ellis... Ellis goes 13-18 for 37 points, 9 assists

Can't believe he threw Harden under the bus. lol.

I know he meant well but basketball is a team sport and to brand one that is not on the team concept is hurtful even if he is the 'superstar' and entitled the hero-ball.

Major Tom wrote:Can't believe he threw Harden under the bus. lol.

I know he meant well but basketball is a team sport and to brand one that is not on the team concept is hurtful even if he is the 'superstar' and entitled the hero-ball.

Harden comes across as a guy that wants to be a 'superstar' and willing to sacrifice the team's success to achieve it. It's will documented how he's BLOWN plays and go ISO late in the games so he could play hero ball.

The SPURS find themselves on top of the WEST year in and year out playing TEAM concept basketball. Steins HATE them because of this. They are the OLD NBA which Steins clearly don't want.

Major Tom wrote:Can't believe he threw Harden under the bus. lol.

I know he meant well but basketball is a team sport and to brand one that is not on the team concept is hurtful even if he is the 'superstar' and entitled the hero-ball.

He didn't.

It is a selective quote which conveniently leaves out Parson's qualifier of "NOT IN A NEGATIVE WAY".

Just another way a selective group of fans misinterpret what is actually happening in favor of what they want to be true.

LarsV8 wrote:

Major Tom wrote:Can't believe he threw Harden under the bus. lol.

I know he meant well but basketball is a team sport and to brand one that is not on the team concept is hurtful even if he is the 'superstar' and entitled the hero-ball.

He didn't.

It is a selective quote which conveniently leaves out Parson's qualifier of "NOT IN A NEGATIVE WAY".

Just another way a selective group of fans misinterpret what is actually happening in favor of what they want to be true.

are you calling me out ala Parsons? lol

Major Tom wrote:

LarsV8 wrote:

Major Tom wrote:Can't believe he threw Harden under the bus. lol.

I know he meant well but basketball is a team sport and to brand one that is not on the team concept is hurtful even if he is the 'superstar' and entitled the hero-ball.

He didn't.

It is a selective quote which conveniently leaves out Parson's qualifier of "NOT IN A NEGATIVE WAY".

Just another way a selective group of fans misinterpret what is actually happening in favor of what they want to be true.

are you calling me out ala Parsons? lol

Not you, OP, but not in a negative way.

I blame this on McHale who has fostered an environment for "Superstar Harden" to do whatever he wants. 40+ mins/game, no accountability for lack of defense, let's him play PG, puts Beverley alongside him to cater to his every whim.

The players are catching on, it's sad that they have to do it In this manner (Howard also indirectly called out Harden not too long ago). This is what happens when the coaching philosophy is flawed, they have spoiled Harden who's a very talented young player but is still immature. Now It's up to the players to establish some equilibrium on the team because the coaches failed to do so.

13th Man wrote:I blame this on McHale who has fostered an environment for "Superstar Harden" to do whatever he wants. 40+ mins/game, no accountability for lack of defense, let's him play PG, puts Beverley alongside him to cater to his every whim.

The players are catching on, it's sad that they have to do it In this manner (Howard also indirectly called out Harden not too long ago). This is what happens when the coaching philosophy is flawed, they have spoiled Harden who's a very talented young player but is still immature. Now It's up to the players to establish some equilibrium on the team because the coaches failed to do so.

Again, you are missing it.

It's not McHale. It's the new NBA. That's what Morey wants. That's what Les wants. That's what Stein wants. It's about building a franchise with a face on it. You walk down 7th ave towards MSG, and you see that giant Melo billboard. That's the new NBA. Have guys like Melo or Harden won anything?

It's been proven over and over again that 'HERO' ball don't win championships but NBA teams endorses it.
It is why Lebron went to Miami with 2 other star. It's why Kobe has struggled without Shaq. It's why Melo has never done much in the POST season. It's why an old/team oriented ball club like the Spurs are always contending.

WhyISO wrote:

13th Man wrote:I blame this on McHale who has fostered an environment for "Superstar Harden" to do whatever he wants. 40+ mins/game, no accountability for lack of defense, let's him play PG, puts Beverley alongside him to cater to his every whim.

The players are catching on, it's sad that they have to do it In this manner (Howard also indirectly called out Harden not too long ago). This is what happens when the coaching philosophy is flawed, they have spoiled Harden who's a very talented young player but is still immature. Now It's up to the players to establish some equilibrium on the team because the coaches failed to do so.

Again, you are missing it.
It's not McHale. It's the new NBA. That's what Morey wants. That's what Les wants. That's what Stein wants. It's been proven over and over again that 'HERO' ball don't win championships.

I've been known to write up some "conspiracy" pieces regarding McHale's treatment of Lin but that's a little bit too far-fetched for me to accept that McHale/Morey/Alexander are part of the greater "NBA Illuminati" that places more value on branding than actually winning.

13th Man wrote:

WhyISO wrote:

13th Man wrote:I've been known to write up some "conspiracy" pieces regarding McHale's treatment of Lin but that's a little bit too far-fetched for me to accept that McHale/Morey/Alexander are part of the greater "NBA Illuminati" that places more value on branding than actually winning.

It's not fantasy..



Melo hasn't won jack dilly.



This is the new NBA.

I really think WhyISO is on the right track but not in regard to Lin. I can't think of one sport were the player is more important than the team. Fans in basketball rarely follow team but rather a player.

Anyways it seems like this is a half true since the omitted part of the qoute. Maybe they have an agenda or maybe they are trying to get their name out there. Who knows? All I know is when I see a qoute like that all I can think of is

I agree with this notion on Stern's level (i.e. fining the Spurs for doing what's best for their own team, manipulating trades etc.). Just not really buying into it having trickled all the way down to McHale's level. I think McHale's philosophy has more to do with ego and incompetence.

And the actual quote:

reporter: 6 &2 without James now, your leading scorer. Is it because the ball movement has to be better when he's not out there and you have to work for better shots? Do you know why that is?

parsons: Well, we want him back obviously, for sure. You know, he's one of our best players and can score the ball, but, he's so good sometimes when he goes one on one and we give him the ball a lot. So when he's out its more of a balanced attack, not in a negative way, it's just anyone can go off at any point. We run our sets thoroughly until we get the best shot available. We still do that with him, but it's just, he's not there to go one on one or create other shots for us, so it has to be a balanced attack.

vs.

We run our sets and get the best shot available. When he's not there, we don't go one-on-one as much.''

And this is exactly why things get hostile around here. People completely making things up to get tempers flared.

Wow he or whoever butchered the qoute. Shots not fired

LarsV8 wrote:And the actual quote:

reporter: 6 &2 without James now, your leading scorer. Is it because the ball movement has to be better when he's not out there and you have to work for better shots? Do you know why that is?

parsons: Well, we want him back obviously, for sure. You know, he's one of our best players and can score the ball, but, he's so good sometimes when he goes one on one and we give him the ball a lot. So when he's out its more of a balanced attack, not in a negative way, it's just anyone can go off at any point. We run our sets thoroughly until we get the best shot available. We still do that with him, but it's just, he's not there to go one on one or create other shots for us, so it has to be a balanced attack.

vs.

We run our sets and get the best shot available. When he's not there, we don't go one-on-one as much.''

And this is exactly why things get hostile around here. People completely making things up to get tempers flared.

Thanks, I really hate when statements are selectively pulled out (I believe this originated from someone's twitter feed) and we end up missing the general context. In no way is Parsons throwing Harden under the bus, sounds more to me like he's trying to defend him.

LarsV8 wrote:And the actual quote:

reporter: 6 &2 without James now, your leading scorer. Is it because the ball movement has to be better when he's not out there and you have to work for better shots? Do you know why that is?

parsons: Well, we want him back obviously, for sure. You know, he's one of our best players and can score the ball, but, he's so good sometimes when he goes one on one and we give him the ball a lot. So when he's out its more of a balanced attack, not in a negative way, it's just anyone can go off at any point. We run our sets thoroughly until we get the best shot available. We still do that with him, but it's just, he's not there to go one on one or create other shots for us, so it has to be a balanced attack.

vs.

We run our sets and get the best shot available. When he's not there, we don't go one-on-one as much.''

And this is exactly why things get hostile around here. People completely making things up to get tempers flared.

Its really getting pathetic, and making it hard to come here.