Kevin McHale really isn't all that bad.

[Zubby]

Maybe i'm just tired of the usual "Fire JVG" "Fire Adelman" "Fire McHale" threads.
I can't even blame McHale too much for this team most of the time, its such a low iq team, he can talk til he is blue in the face and they wouldn't get it. The team hasn't gone backwards, hell I even believe McHale will at some point get Harden to the next level.

Gonna get some grief I know, but McHale is the same type of coach as Phil Jackson. They have an offensive system that requires smarter players, you rarely see either of them calling timeouts. You see more set plays from McHale than you did Phil. They are motivators, guys love playing for them.
Maybe this is the reason its so hard for Phil's assistants to get coaching jobs.

Anyway McHale is great in many aspects, he develops players everyone gets a chance, even TWill, & Thabeet.

Maybe I only like McHale because he benched Martin in the 4th when Adelman wouldn't. Seriously things could be worse, could have MDA.

[hayden]

Maybe i'm just tired of the usual "Fire JVG" "Fire Adelman" "Fire McHale" threads.
I can't even blame McHale too much for this team most of the time, its such a low iq team, he can talk til he is blue in the face and they wouldn't get it. The team hasn't gone backwards, hell I even believe McHale will at some point get Harden to the next level.

Gonna get some grief I know, but McHale is the same type of coach as Phil Jackson. They have an offensive system that requires smarter players, you rarely see either of them calling timeouts. You see more set plays from McHale than you did Phil. They are motivators, guys love playing for them.
Maybe this is the reason its so hard for Phil's assistants to get coaching jobs.

Anyway McHale is great in many aspects, he develops players everyone gets a chance, even TWill, & Thabeet.

Maybe I only like McHale because he benched Martin in the 4th when Adelman wouldn't. Seriously things could be worse, could have MDA.

Is this a joke? Or are you Kevin McHale?

[tha_rock220]

Not his fault Dwight can't guard a pick and roll.

[ChokeFasncists]

Gonna get some grief I know, but McHale is the same type of coach as Phil Jackson. They have an offensive system that requires smarter players, you rarely see either of them calling timeouts. You see more set plays from McHale than you did Phil. They are motivators, guys love playing for them.

Phil had Shaq, MJ, Tex, Kobe and Pippen. Good coaches adapt to the players they have. If they are the same type then McHale is certainly the extreme poor man's Phil.

Anyway McHale is great in many aspects, he develops players everyone gets a chance, even TWill, & Thabeet.

That's true, he's not bad for the development stage, not good for big stage. What is ironic is that Phil hasn't done anything except at the most advanced level.

[rocketsballin]

hell yeah its the players fault too. i cant believe how sorry they been playing. james torched the blazers int he regular season, but now he's missing wide open shots. nothing anyone but harden can do about that. i hope morey has a busy offseason. u cant wait for these young boneheads to develop their game when you have DWIGHT F**KIN HOWARD, at the end of his prime, on your team! its now or never. i dont like the idea of a big 3 when harden is still learning. they only work when all 3 know what to do

but still, i dont want him as head coach. he'd make a great assistant coach. he should be demoted, not fired.

[texasholdem]

IF Memphis beats OKC Scott Brooks is probably fired by Thunder. Westbrook's brother is already calling for it online.

He would be a good choice to replace McHale. At least he and Harden know each other already.

[baki]

Maybe i'm just tired of the usual "Fire JVG" "Fire Adelman" "Fire McHale" threads.
I can't even blame McHale too much for this team most of the time, its such a low iq team, he can talk til he is blue in the face and they wouldn't get it. The team hasn't gone backwards, hell I even believe McHale will at some point get Harden to the next level.

Gonna get some grief I know, but McHale is the same type of coach as Phil Jackson. They have an offensive system that requires smarter players, you rarely see either of them calling timeouts. You see more set plays from McHale than you did Phil. They are motivators, guys love playing for them.
Maybe this is the reason its so hard for Phil's assistants to get coaching jobs.

Anyway McHale is great in many aspects, he develops players everyone gets a chance, even TWill, & Thabeet.

Maybe I only like McHale because he benched Martin in the 4th when Adelman wouldn't. Seriously things could be worse, could have MDA.

A few errors in this post,

- The players are not all low IQ (we have a Harvard grad in there), we are low IQ managed.
- Guys don't love playing for McHale, check out the recent list for popular coaches in the NBA, I believe McHale isn't on it.
- Are you trying to compare McHale to Jackson? Jackson was a journeyman coach before becoming an NBA assistant coach and finally head coach, he started from the beginning and became a master strategist, McHale was VP of basketball operations with no coaching experience but took over a Minnesota team he helped self-destruct.
- Don't mistake player's development for self-development/maturity. This is NOT high school basketball, coaches don't have the time to develop everyone on the roster, players usually have their own trainers to develop their skills during the offseason to improve their prospects on the team or on another. You think Lin's former coaches had anything to do with developing Lin into a stronger, more athletic and better shooter that produced Linsanity and thereafter? That's all Lin. The only thing McHale does to help players learn about each game is give them playing time, which is what all coaches are supposed to do.
- McHale can bench Martin but can't bench Harden when he doesn't want to play defence.

[Zubby]

Did y'all see that epic decisions to release the Daniels?
**** McHail!!!

[ChokeFasncists]

~lol~ He does have some clever ideas, most of the times are gimmicky, but it worked this time! Gotta give him credit!

[jetlife_]

Anyway McHale is great in many aspects, he develops players everyone gets a chance, even TWill, & Thabeet.

Who has he developed, exactly?

Harden's development is being seriously hampered as a young 20s player on the verge of super stardom who's coach lets him do absolutely whatever he wants on the court to the extreme detriment of the team. The mindset he is developing is toxic.

A big part of Terrence Jones's inconsistencies no doubt stem from the fact that he went from playing 1 or 2 minutes a game to being the full-time start literally overnight.

Lowry and Dragic didn't want to play for him and I doubt Lin is fond of the guy either.

I can't really blame him entirely for Asik being a big baby but he definitely could have handled the situation much better.

[bws94]

Anyway McHale is great in many aspects, he develops players everyone gets a chance, even TWill, & Thabeet.

Who has he developed, exactly?

Harden's development is being seriously hampered as a young 20s player on the verge of super stardom who's coach lets him do absolutely whatever he wants on the court to the extreme detriment of the team. The mindset he is developing is toxic.

A big part of Terrence Jones's inconsistencies no doubt stem from the fact that he went from playing 1 or 2 minutes a game to being the full-time start literally overnight.

Lowry and Dragic didn't want to play for him and I doubt Lin is fond of the guy either.

I can't really blame him entirely for Asik being a big baby but he definitely could have handled the situation much better.

McHale is abysmal with point guards. He doesn't understand that position. He's better with big men but not ideal.

I think his coaching is poor. It was the clutch big-play gene in Harden, Lin and Beverley that won him the game along with a rookie that calmly knocked down a 3-pointer. His player minutes management is still poor and his rotations are cringeworthy at times.

[Zubby]

Who has he developed, exactly?

Harden's development is being seriously hampered as a young 20s player on the verge of super stardom who's coach lets him do absolutely whatever he wants on the court to the extreme detriment of the team. The mindset he is developing is toxic.

A big part of Terrence Jones's inconsistencies no doubt stem from the fact that he went from playing 1 or 2 minutes a game to being the full-time start literally overnight.

Lowry and Dragic didn't want to play for him and I doubt Lin is fond of the guy either.

I can't really blame him entirely for Asik being a big baby but he definitely could have handled the situation much better.

McHale is doing great with Jones, he didn't get many minutes because according to McHale he was there offensively but was such a liability defensively missing rotations, losing his man. We still see so much of it now, but Jones is improving.

1:33 mark Dragic on McHale.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHpS4hKD4jI[/youtube]
You hear many players say things like this, Parsons, Jones, Dmo, Bev, even the fails like TWill say this about McHale.

I think his coaching is poor. It was the clutch big-play gene in Harden, Lin and Beverley that won him the game along with a rookie that calmly knocked down a 3-pointer. His player minutes management is still poor and his rotations are cringeworthy at times.

Lin & Harden damn near lost the game down the stretch, they got torched defensively in the 4th. What ever this clutch gene is, if anyone has it, its Dwight.

Ever time POR went on a run, Dwight was there to eventually snuff it out, also he got into to LMA head late in the 4th. Hadn't seen Aldrigde look that irritated all series, the way Dwight was getting physical with him on the offensive end may have been one of the reasons LMA started taking some of those bad shots.

[MKL]

LOL, McHale apologists.

How about that that stupid late timeout at the end of the 4th? Failed to advance the ball, AND burned the last timeout AND didn't even get a shot up with 6 seconds left in the game.

Looked like McHale was desperate to find a scapegoat, and throwing poop until something stuck.

You can tell the team wasn't prepped properly for this series. End up playing Troy Daniels and Twin Towers in the most important game of the season and series. Lin getting heavy minutes in clutch situations. Totally different than how they played entire season.

It's like McHale enabled Harden for stat padding and end of season award chasing, then expect the team to "turn it on" for the playoffs. Also Yeah, McHale helped develop T Jones during regular season, but the boy totally broke down in the playoffs.

Kevin Love was really good with regular season stats too, but Adelman got his ass fired.

McHale not that bad... really?

[KungFuJoe]

[MKL]

Epic thread, McHale reallly isn't all that bad...

That girl isn't really all that ugly...

Raymond Felton really isn't all that fat...

Harden shooting below .300 for the series so far isn't all that brick...

[zapatasblood]

LOL, McHale apologists.

How about that that stupid late timeout at the end of the 4th? Failed to advance the ball, AND burned the last timeout AND didn't even get a shot up with 6 seconds left in the game.

Looked like McHale was desperate to find a scapegoat, and throwing poop until something stuck.

You can tell the team wasn't prepped properly for this series. End up playing Troy Daniels and Twin Towers in the most important game of the season and series. Lin getting heavy minutes in clutch situations. Totally different than how they played entire season.

It's like McHale enabled Harden for stat padding and end of season award chasing, then expect the team to "turn it on" for the playoffs. Also Yeah, McHale helped develop T Jones during regular season, but the boy totally broke down in the playoffs.
Kevin Love was really good with regular season stats too, but Adelman got his ass fired.

McHale not that bad... really?

In an interview before the postseason McHale said he would begin using the TT against the Blazers and said he would use it more and more but that is not say he had any intention of starting them together. He also that he was looking into using Troy Daniels after he show just how good a shot he had. And Terrence Jones did not breakdown in the playoffs it just the simple fact all the better 4s in the game has abused him throughout the season. LMA is bigger stronger and every bit as fast and everybody knew Tjones had no shot in stopping him. Pretty much any PF in the playoffs right now is going to abuse Tjones

But McHale has a lot of the blame cast on him as he should since he is just not that good of a coach. So do the players and I mean all of them.

[Lorenzomax7]

[Lorenzomax7]

Scott Brooks C+
Jeff Hornacek B
Scott Skiles C
Doug Collins C+
Brian Shaw C-
Phil Jackson A-
Tom Thibodeau B-
Stan Van Gundy C+
Lionel Hollins B-
Gregg Popovich A+
Frank Vogel B-
Jeff Van Gundy B-
Mark Jackson C+
Doc Rivers B
Dwane Casey C
Flip Saunders C-
Hubie Brown A-
Kevin McHale C-
George Karl C+
Pat Riley A+
Rudy Tomjanovich A-
Rick Adelman C+
Nate McMillan C
Avery Johnson C-
Mike Brown D+
Jerry Sloan B+
Mike D'Antoni C+
Mike Woodson C-
Vinny Del Negro C-
Rick Carlisle A
Erik Spoelstra B
Larry Brown B-
Keith Smart D
Jacque Vaughn C-
Terry Stotts C+
Jason Kidd B

[Young_Star11]

Time out was called by McHale anyway.

[cw3k]

McHale isn't bad, he just terrible.

I keep hearing the argument he developed players, who did he developed?

Let's see: When Harden came to Rockets, he was a team player and play decent D. Harden and Lin was one of the best back court with promising future. The team was fun to watch because they played team basketball. That was the first half of 2012-2013 season then McHale "developed" Harden. After all star break, AKA Harden got "developed" and the Rockets got ISO Harden, with no D. The dynamic back court of Harden/Lin disappeared. Lin was sent to camp in the corner like everyone else. There was and still is no ball movement.