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http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2014/04/calling-sterling-comments-disgusting-leslie-alexander-seeks-to-drive-him-from-nba/

Calling Sterling comments disgusting, Leslie Alexander seeks to drive him from NBA

Rockets owner Leslie Alexander’s goal was as clear as the anger and disgust in the tone of his voice. He had heard the recording of Clippers owner Donald Sterling’s racist and hateful comments. He had met with NBA commissioner Adam Silver. He wanted Sterling out the NBA.

Calling the comments “disgusting,” Alexander said he told Silver he should stab “a sword” into the heart of Sterling’s ownership of the Clippers.

“I thought that there’s got to be a way to disrupt him from owning the team,” said Alexander, who after 20 years owning the Rockets is one of the longest tenured owners in the NBA. “I gave him the sword to deal with this. I said, ‘Let the players become free agents...

Gotta say I'm proud of Les.

He stepped up as a leader and took a stand on this for his players, management, fans and the Houston community to see.

Getting Doc or Chris Paul wouldn't suck either..

Won't happen. Would be a windfall for teams with cap space, would disadvantage other teams' free agents.

Wondering whether Les is aware of the rac/fasncistic fansite right under his nose and what would be his reaction to it.

ChokeFasncists wrote:Wondering whether Les is aware of the rac/fasncistic fansite right under his nose and what would be his reaction to it.

Lol! Good one.

ChokeFasncists wrote:Wondering whether Les is aware of the rac/fasncistic fansite right under his nose and what would be his reaction to it.

Les said Realgm has much better moderation, less fake account trolls and isn't always asking you for money. So don't go to inside hoops unless you want information *Les Alexander high pitched laugh*

Just kidding with ya

dagger wrote:Won't happen. Would be a windfall for teams with cap space, would disadvantage other teams' free agents.

Likely it won't. But it would be funny if it got that extreme before Sterling stepped down.

http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2 ... -from-nba/

Here's the link for the rest

Of course I for it brin Chris Paul and Doc Rivers to Houston

Wow I have hated the rockets ever since John Starks 0-20 game,

However as a person of color and a man who seeks equality for all.
I will support any thing the rockets do (except when facing the Knicks of course)
But I'm buying jerseys and the whole shabang!!!

Hats off to the Houston Rockets Owner!!!!

rocarlos24 wrote:Wow I have hated the rockets ever since John Starks 0-20 game,

However as a person of color and a man who seeks equality for all.
I will support any thing the rockets do (except when facing the Knicks of course)
But I'm buying jerseys and the whole shabang!!!

Hats off to the Houston Rockets Owner!!!!

Because a guy used a racist moment to declare he wants one of hottest teams to let go of their players to sign with other teams? it is pretty manipulative. He just really wants Griffin Paul Crawford JJ and Co. to be on the Market IMO. The other stuff is just nice.

13th Man wrote:Lol! Good one.

90sAllDecade wrote:Les said Realgm has much better moderation, less fake account trolls and isn't always asking you for money. So don't go to inside hoops unless you want information *Les Alexander high pitched laugh*

Just kidding with ya

This whole things reeks of NBA PC'ness. Everyone with a half a brain knew what Sterling was like long before these recordings came out. Players talked about it, the press talked about it..hell even the casual fan who has watched the league in the past few years has heard something about Sterling being a racist SOB.

Why all the the sudden did people come out of the woodwork wanting his head on a stake? Where was the public outcry when he brought his "girlfriends" into the locker room to check out his players? Where was the public outcry when he was taken to court umpteen times some of which was for racist practices?


It reminds of the NBA's campaign to end the use of the word ****. At the time..there were exactly 0 openly gay players in the league...yet they still pushed it like they were paragons of virtue. Meanwhile, Lin makes a splash in NYC and proceeds to be the butt of countless number of racist and offensive stuff, some even from his own teammates (anyone remember Melo doing that stupid effing bow he did in front of Lin after Lin hit the winning in 3 in Toronto?) And what was the NBA's response to all THAT racist stuff....NOTHING.

I'm all for Sterling getting punished for being a racist SOB..but people need to stop acting surprised that 1. Sterling is a racist...and 2. Racism is still a problem in the league/society.

Maudlin17 wrote: (anyone remember Melo doing that stupid effing bow he did in front of Lin after Lin hit the winning in 3 in Toronto?) And what was the NBA's response to all THAT racist stuff....NOTHING.

I didn't see what Melo did but if Jeremy hit the game winner why would he be mocking him?
Jeremy, James and Chandler Parsons do their bowing ritual before games. Is that racist too?

texasholdem wrote:

Maudlin17 wrote: (anyone remember Melo doing that stupid effing bow he did in front of Lin after Lin hit the winning in 3 in Toronto?) And what was the NBA's response to all THAT racist stuff....NOTHING.

I didn't see what Melo did but if Jeremy hit the game winner why would he be mocking him?
Jeremy, James and Chandler Parsons do their bowing ritual before games. Is that racist too?

With karate stuff I believe. Just hyper sensitive he who shall not be named at work.

texasholdem wrote:

Maudlin17 wrote: (anyone remember Melo doing that stupid effing bow he did in front of Lin after Lin hit the winning in 3 in Toronto?) And what was the NBA's response to all THAT racist stuff....NOTHING.

I didn't see what Melo did but if Jeremy hit the game winner why would he be mocking him?
Jeremy, James and Chandler Parsons do their bowing ritual before games. Is that racist too?

To address Melo's action specifically. If you watch the tape..you can tell that Lin is uncomfortable with Melo doing that bowing crap..he reluctantly does it because he's so caught up in the moment. Melo wasn't/isn't exactly best friends with Lin..especially at that time..probably even moreso now.

Melo did not respect Lin..if you're looking for evidence..just look at how he responded when asked about Lin's contract.

As for the bowing thing with Parsons and James..I'm pretty sure they have a lot better relationship than Lin had with Melo when he pulled that stunt. I'm not saying that makes it right..or any less offensive to Asian Americans, but it does explain how he might feel a lot more comfortable doing it with his teammates.




Here's the thing, if you're a decent human being, why would you ever do/say anything that could be deemed offensive in a public setting? Oh..because it's funny? Because you don't know any better? Ignorance is no longer an excuse for anyone.

Unless you know the person well enough that you know they won't get offended by it...you probably shouldn't be doing it.(common sense, I know..but clearly since we're discussing it..not so common) It's kinda like how certain people can get away with say the N word around black people..and it's totally fine. Example: Louis Delmas and Tony Scheffler of the Detroit Lions.



One of the most annoying things about discussing race in the US is that a lot of people are CONVINCED that there's no racism against Asians. They love to try to deflect by saying "oh it was only a joke" or "I have a friend that's asian and he totally doesn't care at all" or my personal favorite "it's not my fault if you feel offended by my words"


For some odd reason, it's completely acceptable for people to mock/make fun/offend Asians and anyone that looks like they could be Middle Eastern/South Asian without the same kind of fear of reprisal that comes with saying something about someone that's black.

The fact that I have to respond the way I do..sorta indicates that there are some people on this board that are in that camp.

Edit: Almost forgot.."You're being too sensitive"

Although I find you to be a hyper sensitive he who shall not be named fan and reaching on the Melo thing. Just maybe, just maybe it caught him off guard and just maybe Melo started to respect him at that point. I believe Melo asked them to give he who shall not be named to be given a chance or that maybe that something like or that was just something the media said. Can't remember. So basically we do not know what happens in NBA locker rooms and just have to speculate. I do believe they were friends and the vast majority of the NBA people thought the contract he got was ridiculous myself included. Me not so much anymore but remember it was what only 20 plus starts and he gets that deal. Now I thought the same thing of Omar only who came of the bench for like 15 minutes a game, so yeah.

As for the rest what you said I do believe is the case about Asians and racism and can be said about Mexicans and a vast majority of other races.

Maudlin17 wrote:One of the most annoying things about discussing race in the US is that a lot of people are CONVINCED that there's no racism against Asians. They love to try to deflect by saying "oh it was only a joke" or "I have a friend that's asian and he totally doesn't care at all" or my personal favorite "it's not my fault if you feel offended by my words"

For some odd reason, it's completely acceptable for people to mock/make fun/offend Asians and anyone that looks like they could be Middle Eastern/South Asian without the same kind of fear of reprisal that comes with saying something about someone that's black.

The fact that I have to respond the way I do..sorta indicates that there are some people on this board that are in that camp.

Edit: Almost forgot.."You're being too sensitive"

FWIW, I'm Asian. But I also have a sense of humor. For example, I was not all offended by the Stephen Colbert kerfuffle from last month. Not saying racism against Asians doesn't exist because I know first hand that it does. I also know that Asians can be extremely racist themselves. Don't know how Melo feels about Jeremy so I'll take your word for it.

zapatasblood wrote:Although I find you to be a hyper sensitive he who shall not be named fan and reaching on the Melo thing. Just maybe, just maybe it caught him off guard and just maybe Melo started to respect him at that point. I believe Melo asked them to give he who shall not be named to be given a chance or that maybe that something like or that was just something the media said. Can't remember. So basically we do not know what happens in NBA locker rooms and just have to speculate. I do believe they were friends and the vast majority of the NBA people thought the contract he got was ridiculous myself included. Me not so much anymore but remember it was what only 20 plus starts and he gets that deal. Now I thought the same thing of Omar only who came of the bench for like 15 minutes a game, so yeah.

As for the rest what you said I do believe is the case about Asians and racism and can be said about Mexicans and a vast majority of other races.

So let me get this straight..you just start to respect someone..so you attempt to do something you're not sure is offensive to said person? Really? That's your explanation? That means Melo is a complete idiot..or he reallllllllllllllly overestimates the depth of their "friendship"


Here's what we do know about what happened regarding Lin's contract: Melo said some not so positive things about Lin's contract. The rule is players are always happy when a fellow player gets paid.

Show me a single player that has commented negatively about another player getting paid..since Jon Koncak.

Everything else is conjecture..including what Melo may or may not have said regarding given Lin a chance.

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FWIW, I'm Asian. But I also have a sense of humor. For example, I was not all offended by the Stephen Colbert kerfuffle from last month. Not saying racism against Asians doesn't exist because I know first hand that it does. I also know that Asians can be extremely racist themselves. Don't know how Melo feels about Jeremy so I'll take your word for it.[/quote]

"I also have a sense of humor" What exactly are you implying with that statement? That Asians who get offended by racist stuff don't have a sense of humor? Or that if you're offended by racist stuff..you have less of a sense of humor?

Citing Colbert..ffs really? You're going to compare that to what I was talking about?

And then you try to toss in the zinger "i'll take your word for it" Nice..seriously man..you're bait n switches/red herrings are weak. Just stop.

Maudlin17 wrote:
"I also have a sense of humor" What exactly are you implying with that statement? That Asians who get offended by racist stuff don't have a sense of humor? Or that if you're offended by racist stuff..you have less of a sense of humor?

Citing Colbert..ffs really? You're going to compare that to what I was talking about?

And then you try to toss in the zinger "i'll take your word for it" Nice..seriously man..you're bait n switches/red herrings are weak. Just stop.

that wasn't a zinger honestly. I really don't know the Melo/Lin dynamic. I Cited Colbert because it's current and probably the most famous public incident of racism against Asians, whether it was real or not. Dont know what you mean by bait n switches or red herrings really. Not everything on this board has a double meaning.

the sense of humor line was because you brought up people telling jokes about Asians and I can laugh at those jokes if they are not malicious or in context. I do think a lot of Asians get offended when they shouldn't which is why I brought up Colbert.

I said just maybe. I also said no one knows what happens in the locker room. I believe I through speculation on my part and yours. So I really have clue just like you. I myself did not know doing a bow could be so offensive so maybe he is just a clueless as I am. It could have been an inside joke. Or like said caught him off guard. When was that game winner anyway? In the middle of his run right? That's a lot of time to befriend someone.

Your right about the contract and player and the unwritten rule. But the vast majority of NYK acted like a spurred girlfriend no more so then Grunwald and Dolan oh yeah Screaming a Smith. If I remember right he agreed to a four year deal to which I think the Knick where likely to match. then the Rockets redid the deal to a three year deal with that massive poison pill to which he who shall not be named agreed to this restructure. Not blaming him but I believe a lot of New York hated him for it and Knicks front considered it a spit in the face.

zapatasblood wrote:I said just maybe. I also said no one knows what happens in the locker room. I believe I through speculation on my part and yours. So I really have clue just like you. I myself did not know doing a bow could be so offensive so maybe he is just a clueless as I am. It could have been an inside joke. Or like said caught him off guard. When was that game winner anyway? In the middle of his run right? That's a lot of time to befriend someone.


Your right about the contract and player and the unwritten rule. But the vast majority of NYK acted like a spurred girlfriend no more so then Grunwald and Dolan oh yeah Screaming a Smith. If I remember right he agreed to a four year deal to which I think the Knick where likely to match. then the Rockets redid the deal to a three year deal with that massive poison pill to which he who shall not be named agreed to this restructure. Not blaming him but I believe a lot of New York hated him for it and Knicks front considered it a spit in the face.

So...after becoming friends with Lin...he goes out and talks crap about his contract....Awesome friend he is.

The Knicks had EVERY opportunity to sign Lin..regardless of its restructuring. Knick fans can only blame their FO for screwing that up because in the end..it was the FO..not Lin who chose not to match. Lin signed the poison pill deal armed with that knowledge that the Knicks would match "any offer up to a billion dollars"

It literally made zero sense for them NOT to resign Lin because even if he didn't work out..they could have used his contract as an asset later on. Instead..they chose NOT to resign him and got jack squat in return for him.

Perhaps the funniest thing about the Knick situation is that the Knicks FO claimed it was done in part for fiscal reasons.....the Knicks....being fiscally responsible.....yeah right.