Morey Isn't Stupid Afterall (Assistant Coach Rumors)

ChokeFasncists · Post #1 » by **ChokeFasncists** » Sun Jun 1, 2014 10:24 pm

Report: Houston Rockets Interested In Lionel Hollins As Associate Head Coach
http://houseofhouston.com/2014/06/01/re ... ead-coach/
:nod:

I like it.

Report: Houston Rockets Interested In Tyrone Corbin As Assistant Coach
http://houseofhouston.com/2014/06/01/re ... %20on%20FS

Prepping for a Sloan hire? That'd be even better.

Both guys are not big fan of analytics, perhaps Morey's getting out of his superstition in light of its playoff shortcomings?

MKL · Post #2 » by **MKL** » Sun Jun 1, 2014 10:44 pm

So, McHale will be cheerleader now?

Both of those 2 coaches are better than McHale.

ok, maybe not Corbin. lol, but it's close.

BaYBaller · Post #3 » by **BaYBaller** » Mon Jun 2, 2014 1:54 am

I like Hollins but seems like a long shot considering he's getting HC interest.

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quatin · Post #4 » by **quatin** » Mon Jun 2, 2014 2:12 am

BaYBaller wrote:I like Hollins but seems like a long shot considering he's getting HC interest.

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I agree. Associate HC is demeaning for someone of Hollins caliber. However, maybe Morey will offer a 1 year contract of associate HC as a "trial run" to be HC the year after when McHales contract is up. That way Morey can test the waters to see how the two of them can work out running a team with different philosophies. I still think the whole "allergic to stats" thing was just the media blowing it out of proportions.

I don't see him going to GS though, they just signed Steve Kerr to 5 years. I think Hollins has a better shot signing with the Lakers.

90sAllDecade · Post #5 » by **90sAllDecade** » Mon Jun 2, 2014 4:34 am

If Hollins is willing to sign you take him. He can change his rep about analytics by working with one of the best offices at it.

He also has a much better shot at going deep in the playoffs, by helping us improve our defense to compliment our offense.

LA is a tough coaching job to take right now with all the media pressure to win regardless of roster imo. He could get Mike Browned or D'antoni'd. Phil was smart and bounced when the talent took dips.

texasholdem · Post #6 » by **texasholdem** » Mon Jun 2, 2014 5:49 am

For those who may not know, Lionel Hollins was the starting point guard for the Rockets during Hakeem's rookie season in 1984. (that was also his last year as an NBA player and his only season in Houston).

Jerry Sloan is 72 years old. Really don't think he's the long term answer for this team.

MKL · Post #7 » by **MKL** » Mon Jun 2, 2014 3:57 pm

Rumor is Hollins might go to GS.

Hollins > McHale and Kerr.

So, I don't know why he would take an assistant job.

MaxRider · Post #8 » by **MaxRider** » Mon Jun 2, 2014 5:44 pm

so interesting in XXXXX as assistant coach is enough to make him not stupid?
well i can be smart GM too
i'm interesting in hiring Jeff Van Gundy as assistant coach
interesting don't mean anything
wait until the team actually get to the conference final

MaxRider · Post #9 » by **MaxRider** » Mon Jun 2, 2014 5:45 pm

MKL wrote:Rumor is Hollins might go to GS.

Hollins > McHale and Kerr.

So, I don't know why he would take an assistant job.

because he can't find a head coach job?

MKL · Post #10 » by **MKL** » Mon Jun 2, 2014 6:07 pm

MaxRider wrote:
MKL wrote:Rumor is Hollins might go to GS.

Hollins > McHale and Kerr.

So, I don't know why he would take an assistant job.

because he can't find a head coach job?

If Hollins become an assistant for McHale or Kerr.

It's going to be hell.

Jason Kidd killed his friendship with Lawrence Frank. It's not easy when your assistant thinks he's better than you as the head coach.

I can't wait for Morey to announce "we have 2 Head Coaches". Similar to McHale's "we have 2 starting pgs".

CF can write an article "The numbers are clear part 2".

rocketsballin · Post #11 » by **rocketsballin** » Mon Jun 2, 2014 9:24 pm

unless there's a plan to fire mchale, right after bringing him back btw, and move hollins to hc, morey is indeed, stupid. even if that does happen, he's stupid. why bring mchale back so quickly, w/o waiting and looking over coaches in the offseason? did he threaten to pop off on someone? sheeesh, with all these advancesd analytics they got, you would think they'd see mchale's glaring shortcomings as a head coach.

cw3k · Post #12 » by **cw3k** » Tue Jun 3, 2014 1:03 am

Morey should be fire along with McHale end of next season.

All the talents he put together are wasted under McHale.

I don't mind Rockets exist at round 1, the problem is McHale is absolutely clueless and lack of leadership. Taking credits for win and blame players for losses. Unbelievable.

Look at Pop and see why his players loved him and respect him. He always give credits to his players

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ChokeFasncists · Post #13 » by **ChokeFasncists** » Tue Jun 3, 2014 8:35 am

texasholdem wrote:Jerry Sloan is 72 years old. Really don't think he's the long term answer for this team.

Lakers Interested In Larry Brown, Scott Skiles
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... ott-Skiles
So LB at 73 and isn't too old. :wink:

MaxRider wrote:so interesting in XXXXX as assistant coach is enough to make him not stupid?
well i can be smart GM too
i'm interesting in hiring Jeff Van Gundy as assistant coach
interesting don't mean anything
wait until the team actually get to the conference final

Grammar Nazi: "Interested". :wink:

Well, IMO Morey has done a very good job overall except for the stupid moves of retaining McHale and enforcing Moreyball. If he retains McHale and hire a great assistant coach, then plan on promoting him anytime next season or transitioning into the next, that's actually quite clever. If he realizes the shortcomings of his Moreyball and hire a non-analytic guy that encourages good D, team O and some midrange, then he is a very smart man.

So, no, you won't be called not stupid even if you are interested "in hiring Jeff Van Gundy as assistant coach". 8-)

ChokeFasncists · Post #14 » by **ChokeFasncists** » Tue Jun 3, 2014 11:18 pm

Another thing, is that Hollins has the experience of working with two bigs, Randolph and Gasol along with a passing point guard in Conley. That should help us with figuring out strategies for starting our best five players.

texasholdem · Post #15 » by **texasholdem** » Wed Jun 4, 2014 3:41 pm

At least Larry Brown has shown recent success coaching young players in college. If Jerry Sloan couldn't deal with a 26 year old Deron Williams freelancing, coaching James Harden will force Sloan into a retirement home or looney bin.

Sloan inherited Malone and Stockton when they were already superstars and Hornacek was an allstar before the Jazz so he never really had to develop young players.

ChokeFasncists · Post #16 » by **ChokeFasncists** » Wed Jun 4, 2014 11:31 pm

texasholdem wrote:At least Larry Brown has shown recent success coaching young players in college. If Jerry Sloan couldn't deal with a 26 year old Deron Williams freelancing, coaching James Harden will force Sloan into a retirement home or looney bin.

~lol~ Ya, that's a concern; I'm willing to take the risk tho. Hey, but it might have been Deron's fault. Maybe Deron never tried different things and be losing like Harden? Or maybe Jerry's tougher on point guard, or Stockton is a real tough act to follow?

Sloan inherited Malone and Stockton when they were already superstars and Hornacek was an allstar before the Jazz so he never really had to develop young players.

Well, after/amid next season I think our guys have to be ready to take the next step. Pressure's on and Dwight isn't getting any younger. Harden did make the 1st team all NBA, he just needs some coaching. It's probably best to ask him if he's ready to be coached and winning beforehand.

zapatasblood · Post #17 » by **zapatasblood** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 3:45 am

Love Hollins as a assistant coach. Could be the back up plan to for McHale

CoolbeansB · Post #18 » by **CoolbeansB** » Tue Jun 17, 2014 3:18 am

Not interested until i hear "Rockets looking at Jeff Van Gundy for assistant coach."

MKL · Post #19 » by **MKL** » Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:24 am

Jalen Rose said McHale better watch his back. LOL

http://youtu.be/_H3CDN8W-Ww?t=41m17s

ChokeFasncists · Post #20 » by **ChokeFasncists** » Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:39 am

New article on this:

Rockets hope to snare Lionel Hollins
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11096 ... tant-coach

The Houston Rockets are making a hard push to convince former Memphis Grizzlies coach Lionel Hollins to join Kevin McHale's staff as an assistant, according to sources close to the process.

However, sources tell ESPN.com that the Rockets recognize it will be difficult to land Hollins, who continues to covet his next opportunity as a head coach after his exit in Memphis following the 2013 playoffs.

The Grizzlies declined to offer Hollins a new contract following a 56-win season in 2012-13, which saw them advance to the Western Conference finals before being ousted by the San Antonio Spurs.

Hollins has interviewed with a number of teams this spring that ultimately hired others, as well as two teams still looking for a head coach: The Cleveland Cavaliers and the Los Angeles Lakers.