iS IT TIME... For Royce White to Return?

kinein · Post #1 » by **kinein** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 8:34 am

BRING BACK ROYCE WHITE!

Its reunion time!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrzVBDoneZI[/youtube]

baki · Post #2 » by **baki** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:19 am

In spite of everything I actually like Royce White's game, but something happened along the way and Houston couldn't do anything, they basically got sucked in.

Should never have listened to McHale or Morey.

Sasaki · Post #3 » by **Sasaki** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:30 am

MKL · Post #4 » by **MKL** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:49 pm

Come'n Home!

Writers and media can't touch this story because White is considered mentally handicapped.

But damn that was big time blunder by Morey. That was the first sign that Morey isn't as smart as he think he is.

That and deciding to stick with McHale. And we know McHale's history of blunders.

I hope you McHale white knights keep on battling for his honor. That'll be fuel for some entertaining discussions for me next season.

Post #5 » by **Mr. E** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 5:16 pm

Guys...I think that I may have just seen him! :lol:

I was just at a traffic light nearby the location where White was going to open his Mental Wellness Center and there was a guy in a BMW to my right who suddenly cut in front of me to go in the direction of that place. I only got a glimpse but it did look like it could have been Royce White.

I wonder if anyone knows if he is in town. He still lives here, right?

MKL · Post #6 » by **MKL** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:06 pm

"Mental Wellness Center"

You think White would have been offended with "Roysanity" ?

Post #7 » by **Mr. E** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:47 pm

MKL wrote:"Mental Wellness Center"

You think White would have been offended with "Roysanity" ?

I think so. And the Rockets organization would have been criticized heavily for their "insensitivity."

As to your previous question, I don't think that you can call me a McHale white knight (seeing as how I advocate the return of JVG to anyone who will listen to me), but I maintain my stance that Royce White was not the disaster of a pick that some make him out to be. He was one of three first round picks in the same range. One pick helped us nab Harden, one pick is a productive member of this roster. Taking a flier on a low risk/high reward guy at 16 was fine by me. It didn't hurt us too badly in the long run.

BaYBaller · Post #8 » by **BaYBaller** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:55 pm

Isn't it kind of ironic how MKL keeps griping about the LoF name calling (and continually mentions things that happen on CF which nobody cares about here), and then tries to call out "McHale White Knights"?

Also it's humorous to me because I don't think many people here even hold McHale in high regard, I certainly don't. Most people here understand what McHale is, a figurehead, who will very likely be gone next year. Most "McHale White Knights" were really just people disagreeing with the conspiracy stories of McHale being racist, or hating Lin, or whatever other crazy stuff people were saying about him. The head coach is always the scape goat for people who don't want to blame the players.

And you can't judge Morey on the outcome of individual decisions. You have to look at his entire resume. Just how if you're judging an investment manager you don't just look at his worst performing investment, you have to look at how the entire investment portfolio performed over time.

zapatasblood · Post #9 » by **zapatasblood** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:04 pm

I do not like you at this moment

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CoolbeansB · Post #10 » by **CoolbeansB** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:05 pm

I gotta say, it took a lot of guts to ask this question.

MKL · Post #11 » by **MKL** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 8:22 pm

Asking a question is not the same as making a statement.

hypotheticals, man.

Also, I was hoping "White Knights" like in shining armor come and defend McHale's honor next season.
Why is that a problem?

I always find these discussions entertaining. Never brought race into this. But we can talk about race if you want. Hey, McHale might be great next season. People can rave about how great he is. Possibilities...

texasholdem · Post #12 » by **texasholdem** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 8:27 pm

MKL wrote:Asking a question is not the same as making a statement.

hypotheticals, man.

Also, I was hoping "White Knights" like in shining armor come and defend McHale's honor next season.
Why is that a problem?
.

they are thinking you meant white as in caucasian. As in white like McHale or most of the posters here (probably)

texasholdem · Post #13 » by **texasholdem** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 8:28 pm

I think Royce White and to a lesser extent Terrence Williams is the reason why Morey didn't pursue Lance Stephenson.

BaYBaller · Post #14 » by **BaYBaller** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:05 pm

Nobody raves about how great McHale is.

baki · Post #15 » by **baki** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:12 pm

Mr. E wrote:but I maintain my stance that Royce White was not the disaster of a pick that some make him out to be. He was one of three first round picks in the same range. One pick helped us nab Harden, one pick is a productive member of this roster. Taking a flier on a low risk/high reward guy at 16 was fine by me. It didn't hurt us too badly in the long run.

The Royce White pick was absolutely terrible, even Morey admitted it. Don't see why the apologists for White and Morey need to keep this going when our team was needing a defensive PF for the past 2 seasons.

spolgar · Post #16 » by **spolgar** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:52 am

baki wrote:
Mr. E wrote:but I maintain my stance that Royce White was not the disaster of a pick that some make him out to be. He was one of three first round picks in the same range. One pick helped us nab Harden, one pick is a productive member of this roster. Taking a flier on a low risk/high reward guy at 16 was fine by me. It didn't hurt us too badly in the long run.

The Royce White pick was absolutely terrible, even Morey admitted it. Don't see why the apologists for White and Morey need to keep this going when our team was needing a defensive PF for the past 2 seasons.

I don't think the revelation that he was a narcissistic sociopath was really revealed until we spent a pick on him.

Regardless, Philly ended up paying for the last year of his salary. Of the two remaining picks, we flipped one for Harden and the other is starting for us. Of the players that came after, the only player whose game was remotely like Whites was Draymond Green. Other than Sullinger, Sacre and Quincy Acy, there weren't many rotation worthy players. Sully had back and leg issues and was about flexible as chip board. Sacre wouldn't have played rotational minutes for a playoff team and Acy would be fighting for minutes between Jones and Motie. Mid 1st round picks wash out of the league on a pretty regular basis. I don't think it's that big of a loss in the grand scheme of things.

Post #17 » by **Mr. E** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:58 am

baki wrote:The Royce White pick was absolutely terrible, even Morey admitted it. Don't see why the apologists for White and Morey need to keep this going when our team was needing a defensive PF for the past 2 seasons.

The White pick on it's own was downright terrible once it played out the way that it did. I maintain my stance that it was not a disaster of a draft since two of the three picks we had in that range were positive benefits for us.

If you are hung up on who we could have taken there then remember that a lot of other teams passed on that player as well. It's easy to judge drafts with the benefit of hindsight.

All that said, how on earth are we talking about Royce White on this forum again?!?!? The answer is "no," it is not time to bring him back.

It is weird that this thread comes up and I think that I saw him on the same day. :lol:

Post #18 » by **Mr. E** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:00 am

spolgar wrote:Regardless, Philly ended up paying for the last year of his salary.

Actually, we sent the cash to cover his salary and a prospect with a great nickname.

It was worth it to clear that cap room, tho.

spolgar · Post #19 » by **spolgar** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:32 am

Mr. E wrote:
spolgar wrote:Regardless, Philly ended up paying for the last year of his salary.

Actually, we sent the cash to cover his salary and a prospect with a great nickname.

It was worth it to clear that cap room, tho.

Yeah, good call. I forgot about that transaction. My point is, the Royce White debacle was small potatoes in the grand scheme of things. If it weren't for the media crapstorm, I'm not sure fans would've really cared if he made it into the league or not.

Post #20 » by **Mr. E** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:35 am

Very small potatoes.

If the guy is going to be a topic here, then my current opinion is that the best thing that he can do is either sign a D-League contract or accept a contract overseas. Let him re-establish his name & his game and show that he is willing to do what it takes to make it as a pro ball player.