Page 1 of 3
Draft Targets
Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 10:36 am
by Barnsey
Who do you hope we get with #18? What position do we need the most?
I'm thinking we either go for a PG, or a stretch-4, or if there's a serious talent that somehow slips to us then snag him.
For PG i hope we get Cameron Payne. I think he will get drafted in the late lottery once workouts are done, but hopefully his size scares teams away. I really like his feel for the game, and i especially like his personality. Personality-wise he kind of reminds me of Jason Terry. He's a bit small and will not be a threat to score inside, but he can score in a variety of other ways and is a crafty playmaker. He kind of reminds me of Mike Conley a bit. That'd be a steal.
Another guy i would be ecstatic to draft is Bobby Portis. He can stretch the floor but also defend the P&R aswell. He models is game after Kevin Garnett, and we will be able to rely on him to provide heaps of energy and winning spirit. I know we already have Terrence and D-Mo, but i think we can afford to trade one of those 2 for a legit PG if we draft Portis. I can foresee Portis being a starter in the league someday.
What about you guys?
Re: Draft Targets
Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 11:54 am
by texasholdem
Hmm a short PG from Murray State, didn't Morey just trade away one of those?
Jerian Grant or Delon Wright or George De Paula all nice PG's with size. Portis is OK as a PF but yeah there's a logjam.
Wonder if we can package #18 and #32 to move up to the 14-15 range.
Re: Draft Targets
Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 2:44 pm
by texasholdem
Looking back at Morey's draft history
2007
#24 - Aaron Brooks, A- (passed on Arron Afflalo and Tiago Splitter)
#31 - Carl Landry A- (passed on Marc Gasol)
#54 - Brad Newley D (passed on Ramon Sessions, Joel Anthony, Mirza Teletovic, Gary Neal, Cartier Martin, Anthony Tolliver)
2008
#25 - Nicolas Batum INC - traded for Dontae Green then Artest so (passed on George Hill and Nikola Pekovic)
#33 - Joey Dorsey D (passed on DeAndre Jordan, Goran Dragic, Omer Asik, Mario Chalmers, Luc BMbah a Moute)
#54 - Maarty Leunen D (passed on Timofey Mozgov, Greg Stiemsma, Brian Roberts, Anthony Morrow, Reggie Williams)
2009
#32 - Jermaine Taylor D (passed on Dante Cunningham)
#34 - Sergio Llull INC (passed on Patrick Beverley, DeJuan Blair, Jonas Jerebko, Jodie Meeks, Marcus Thornton)
#44 - Chase Budinger B- (passed on Nick Calathes, Danny Green, Patty Mills, Aron Baynes, Jeff Adrien, Wes Matthews, Zo Gee)
2010
#14 - Patrick Patterson B (passed on Eric Bledsoe, Avery Bradley, Hassan Whiteside, Lance Stephenson)
2011
#14 - Marcus Morris F (passed on Kawhi Leonard, Nik Vucevic, Iman Shumpert, Tobias Harris)
#20 - Donatas Motiejunas B- (passed on Jimmy Butler, Kenneth Faried, Nik Mirotic, Reggie Jackson, Norris Cole)
#38 - Chandler Parsons A+ (passed on Isaiah Thomas)
2012
#12 Jeremy Lamb INC - traded for Harden (passed on John Henson, Mo Harkness)
#16 Royce White F (passed on Tyler Zeller)
#18 Terrence Jones B+ (passed on Jared Sullinger, Festus Ezeli, Tony Wroten, Miles Plumlee. Evan Fournier, Draymond Green, Jae Crowder, Khris Middleton)
2013
#34 - Isaiah Canaan B (passed on Matthew Dellavedova)
2014
#25 - Clint Capela A+ (passed on KJ McDaniels)
#42 - Nick Johnson C+ (passed on Jordan Clarkson, Langston Galloway, Markel Brown)
Re: Draft Targets
Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 3:04 pm
by Barnsey
texasholdem wrote:Jerian Grant or Delon Wright or George De Paula all nice PG's with size. Portis is OK as a PF but yeah there's a logjam.
Wonder if we can package #18 and #32 to move up to the 14-15 range.
Delon is another guy i'd love to have on the squad. I need to learn more about Grant and De Paula though.
I would probably prefer to keep #18 and #32 than trade up to just 14-15. The talent is basically the same around that area.
Re: Draft Targets
Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 4:19 pm
by MaxRider
do you really trust the ball in a rookie hand?
only PG in the draft i'm interested in are Cameron Payne and George De Paula
i'm actually more interested in adding spot up 3 points shooter than a PG through draft
let Morey get a PG in trade/FA
i like shooters
Kevon Looney
Aleksandar Vezenkov
Jonathan Holmes
RJ Hunter (he's like Kevin Martin lite)
Robert Upshaw is one of those high risk high reward guy
lot of talent but got lot of personal issue
after Royce White i don't want to take another risk like this
Re: Draft Targets
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 12:41 pm
by Barnsey
MaxRider wrote:Robert Upshaw is one of those high risk high reward guy
lot of talent but got lot of personal issue
after Royce White i don't want to take another risk like this
Yeah, cocaine is a hell of a drug. Pass on him at #18.
Maybe in the 2nd round though...
Re: Draft Targets
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 1:44 pm
by Mr. E
I haven't paid attention to this years potential draft class. I have no idea what they plan on doing, but I'm thinking that this pick is traded.
Re: Draft Targets
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 2:14 pm
by MaxRider
Mr. E wrote:I haven't paid attention to this years potential draft class. I have no idea what they plan on doing, but I'm thinking that this pick is traded.
trade? hell no
Morey needs to improve Vipers team too
Re: Draft Targets
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 7:00 pm
by Mr. E
MaxRider wrote:trade? hell no
Morey needs to improve Vipers team too
Best Player Available?
Re: Draft Targets
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 7:22 pm
by MaxRider
Mr. E wrote:MaxRider wrote:trade? hell no
Morey needs to improve Vipers team too
Best Player Available?
of course draft best player available
he will be starter on Vipers team
Re: Draft Targets
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 7:27 pm
by Mr. E
I just mean regardless of position. If you're looking to develop a player then position shouldn't matter.
I'd rather see that than overreach on a player at a position of perceived need.
Re: Draft Targets
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 7:28 pm
by texasholdem
If the Rockets took best player available in 1992 we'd have taken Harold Miner over Robert Horry but we desperately needed a SF since Buck Johnson sucked and Matt Bullard wasn't starter material. Rockets would have never won those two championships.
Re: Draft Targets
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 7:30 pm
by MaxRider
Mr. E wrote:I just mean regardless of position. If you're looking to develop a player then position shouldn't matter.
I'd rather see that than overreach on a player at a position of perceived need.
unfortunately our GM is Morey
that's what he been doing since he's the GM of the Rockets
i have no big expectation from the draft other than hope some high prospect drop to his lap
i'm looking forward to what he can pull out of his hat this offseason without cap space
will he trade Ariza to clear cap space to go after LMA or Love?
Re: Draft Targets
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 8:23 pm
by Nebula1
Best Player Available is an empty, meaningless term.
I think this pick will be traded for a veteran point guard, ie Lawson, Teague, Lowry, Jennings, etc.
Re: Draft Targets
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 8:57 pm
by MaxRider
Nebula1 wrote:Best Player Available is an empty, meaningless term.
I think this pick will be traded for a veteran point guard, ie Lawson, Teague, Lowry, Jennings, etc.
the pick when thought is going to be lottery pick didn't get us Dragic
i doubt now it will get us any of those players mentioned above
draft best available is not really empty meaningless term
it basically mean draft the one with the highest ceiling available
Re: Draft Targets
Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 8:58 pm
by texasholdem
Nebula1 wrote:Best Player Available is an empty, meaningless term.
.
Wow something we finally agree on!
Re: Draft Targets
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 7:39 am
by Lorenzomax7
Draft either a PF or Center and then make a trade for a star PF or PG. It's nearly impossible to pick up a decent PG out of a draft from #18.
Re: Draft Targets
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 8:03 am
by rocketsballin
forget the draft, just package the 18th with jones, kostas and filler for a starting pg. we got nick and capella as prospects, thats enough for a team in win-now mode. with the 18th pick we wont find anyone that can be a rotation player until at lest his 2nd year. dont wanna keep wasting dwight's last prime years
Re: Draft Targets
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 8:34 am
by hungsizzle
I say we trade up for Frank Kaminsky.
Have him play the 4 and stretch the floor. He is a sure fire stretch 4 which decent rebounding and very good shot blocking.
Plus at 7 foot + .
Moreys gonna do some stupid **** and trade ariza away for a point guard and package some future first round picks.
But I've been a fan of Kaminski since 2 seasons ago that kids got some serious upside.
What do y'all think?
Re: Draft Targets
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 9:16 am
by rocketsballin
we already got a loaded pf/c rotation. we need to subtract from those two positions. hopefully smith signs for cheap so jones can be packaged for a pg. dmo is looking like he's gonna be a stretch 4 anyway, and his defense is underrated.