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JJ Redick wants to be a Rocket too 

Post#1 » by K_chile22 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:20 pm

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Re: JJ Redick wants to be a Rocket too 

Post#2 » by Mr. E » Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:23 pm

Depends on the price tag, but it would be nice not to have him killing our team for a change.
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Post#3 » by K_chile22 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:25 pm

Mr. E wrote:Depends on the price tag, but it would be nice not to have him killing our team for a change.

If he were willing to take a pay cut, they could do a sign and trade starting at $12 mil by sending Taylor, Onuaku, Kelly, Quarterman and Long
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Re: JJ Redick wants to be a Rocket too 

Post#4 » by MaxRider » Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:41 pm

I rather give that kind of money to Millsap. I'm happy with Gordon as backup SG
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Post#5 » by K_chile22 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:59 pm

MaxRider wrote:I rather give that kind of money to Millsap. I'm happy with Gordon as backup SG

Milsap will cost a LOT more than that, but those guys would be needed to make it work, and I'd rather have him too. This is more of a plan B or C
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Re: JJ Redick wants to be a Rocket too 

Post#6 » by MaxRider » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:03 pm

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MaxRider wrote:I rather give that kind of money to Millsap. I'm happy with Gordon as backup SG

Milsap will cost a LOT more than that, but those guys would be needed to make it work, and I'd rather have him too. This is more of a plan B or C

Redick is more like plan D
with Dekker and Harrell gone
we need to improve our PF position first
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Re: JJ Redick wants to be a Rocket too 

Post#7 » by K_chile22 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:06 pm

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MaxRider wrote:I rather give that kind of money to Millsap. I'm happy with Gordon as backup SG

Milsap will cost a LOT more than that, but those guys would be needed to make it work, and I'd rather have him too. This is more of a plan B or C

Redick is more like plan D
with Dekker and Harrell gone
we need to improve our PF position first

They can use the MLE there for a PJ Tucker/ maybe 2Pat/ James Johnson to fill out the four spot
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Re: JJ Redick wants to be a Rocket too 

Post#8 » by MaxRider » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:09 pm

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K_chile22 wrote:Milsap will cost a LOT more than that, but those guys would be needed to make it work, and I'd rather have him too. This is more of a plan B or C

Redick is more like plan D
with Dekker and Harrell gone
we need to improve our PF position first

They can use the MLE there for a PJ Tucker/ maybe 2Pat/ James Johnson to fill out the four spot

PJ Tucker is SF/SG
Morey is thinking to use part of MLE to sign Zhou Qi
so I'm afraid his plan A isn't using MLE for PF
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Re: JJ Redick wants to be a Rocket too 

Post#9 » by K_chile22 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:13 pm

MaxRider wrote:
K_chile22 wrote:
MaxRider wrote:Redick is more like plan D
with Dekker and Harrell gone
we need to improve our PF position first

They can use the MLE there for a PJ Tucker/ maybe 2Pat/ James Johnson to fill out the four spot

PJ Tucker is SF/SG
Morey is thinking to use part of MLE to sign Zhou Qi
so I'm afraid his plan A isn't using MLE for PF

Tucker is much better at the four than he is anywhere else. HE's short but the dude is a bull.

They'll also just be using 816k of the MLE on Zhou, 3 years starting at 7.6 mil is more than fair for him.
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Re: JJ Redick wants to be a Rocket too 

Post#10 » by MaxRider » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:25 pm

K_chile22 wrote:
MaxRider wrote:
K_chile22 wrote:They can use the MLE there for a PJ Tucker/ maybe 2Pat/ James Johnson to fill out the four spot

PJ Tucker is SF/SG
Morey is thinking to use part of MLE to sign Zhou Qi
so I'm afraid his plan A isn't using MLE for PF

Tucker is much better at the four than he is anywhere else. HE's short but the dude is a bull.

They'll also just be using 816k of the MLE on Zhou, 3 years starting at 7.6 mil is more than fair for him.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/tuckepj01.html#all_advanced_pbp
19% of his time at PF last season and you want him to be backup PF?
BTW that's less than Ariza 21% at PF
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Re: JJ Redick wants to be a Rocket too 

Post#11 » by K_chile22 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:28 pm

MaxRider wrote:
K_chile22 wrote:
MaxRider wrote:PJ Tucker is SF/SG
Morey is thinking to use part of MLE to sign Zhou Qi
so I'm afraid his plan A isn't using MLE for PF

Tucker is much better at the four than he is anywhere else. HE's short but the dude is a bull.

They'll also just be using 816k of the MLE on Zhou, 3 years starting at 7.6 mil is more than fair for him.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/tuckepj01.html#all_advanced_pbp
19% of his time at PF last season and you want him to be backup PF?
BTW that's less than Ariza 21% at PF

a fourth of his time is not insignificant. On a team that doesn't already have two very good fours (PatPat, Ibaka, suns had their two rookies and Dudley) he would've gotten more. Trust me, if he were a rockets he'd be the backup 4 as well as backup 3. Like Dekker was
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Post#12 » by MaxRider » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:38 pm

K_chile22 wrote:
MaxRider wrote:
K_chile22 wrote:Tucker is much better at the four than he is anywhere else. HE's short but the dude is a bull.

They'll also just be using 816k of the MLE on Zhou, 3 years starting at 7.6 mil is more than fair for him.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/tuckepj01.html#all_advanced_pbp
19% of his time at PF last season and you want him to be backup PF?
BTW that's less than Ariza 21% at PF

a fourth of his time is not insignificant. On a team that doesn't already have two very good fours (PatPat, Ibaka, suns had their two rookies and Dudley) he would've gotten more. Trust me, if he were a rockets he'd be the backup 4 as well as backup 3. Like Dekker was


19% is more like fifth
anyway we hardly agree on anything
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Re: JJ Redick wants to be a Rocket too 

Post#13 » by K_chile22 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:39 pm

MaxRider wrote:
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MaxRider wrote:http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/tuckepj01.html#all_advanced_pbp
19% of his time at PF last season and you want him to be backup PF?
BTW that's less than Ariza 21% at PF

a fourth of his time is not insignificant. On a team that doesn't already have two very good fours (PatPat, Ibaka, suns had their two rookies and Dudley) he would've gotten more. Trust me, if he were a rockets he'd be the backup 4 as well as backup 3. Like Dekker was


19% is more like fifth
anyway we hardly agree on anything

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Re: JJ Redick wants to be a Rocket too 

Post#14 » by inquisitive » Sat Jul 1, 2017 12:11 am

16-18mil is a bit too much...
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Post#15 » by texasholdem » Sat Jul 1, 2017 12:45 am

Trade Eric Gordon for Paul George then sign Redick. EG is from Indiana so the Pacers could be interested.
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Post#16 » by MaxRider » Sat Jul 1, 2017 12:58 am

texasholdem wrote:Trade Eric Gordon for Paul George then sign Redick. EG is from Indiana so the Pacers could be interested.

I read draft day plan was trading for Kings 1st round pick and then trade it to Blazers for their two 1st round picks. Then Gordan and those two picks will be send to Indy for Paul George. Not sure how reliable is the source, since Kings and Blazers did swap their picks. And I have no idea who we are trading.
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Post#17 » by texasholdem » Sun Aug 6, 2017 2:34 pm

Morey is gaining a bad reputation it seems. This is what Redick said about the rockets: "(It didn't work out) – some of it was numbers and some of it was other factors like relocating the family and – I hate to say this – but you never know with Daryl and how he operates. A three-year deal could really be a six-month deal if you get dealt at the trade deadline for a superstar as part of a package of six."
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Post#18 » by K_chile22 » Sun Aug 6, 2017 4:38 pm

texasholdem wrote:Morey is gaining a bad reputation it seems. This is what Redick said about the rockets: "(It didn't work out) – some of it was numbers and some of it was other factors like relocating the family and – I hate to say this – but you never know with Daryl and how he operates. A three-year deal could really be a six-month deal if you get dealt at the trade deadline for a superstar as part of a package of six."

That's not the reason he didn't come though, it's because he thought they would offer him four years before FA started, then they offered three. He would've come if they were willing to give him a fourth year. Says so in the pod that quote came from
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Post#19 » by texasholdem » Sun Aug 6, 2017 10:41 pm

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texasholdem wrote:Morey is gaining a bad reputation it seems. This is what Redick said about the rockets: "(It didn't work out) – some of it was numbers and some of it was other factors like relocating the family and – I hate to say this – but you never know with Daryl and how he operates. A three-year deal could really be a six-month deal if you get dealt at the trade deadline for a superstar as part of a package of six."

That's not the reason he didn't come though, it's because he thought they would offer him four years before FA started, then they offered three. He would've come if they were willing to give him a fourth year. Says so in the pod that quote came from


So you're not the least bit concerned about his "how he operates" part of the quote and if other players feel the same way?
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Post#20 » by K_chile22 » Mon Aug 7, 2017 2:31 am

texasholdem wrote:
K_chile22 wrote:
texasholdem wrote:Morey is gaining a bad reputation it seems. This is what Redick said about the rockets: "(It didn't work out) – some of it was numbers and some of it was other factors like relocating the family and – I hate to say this – but you never know with Daryl and how he operates. A three-year deal could really be a six-month deal if you get dealt at the trade deadline for a superstar as part of a package of six."

That's not the reason he didn't come though, it's because he thought they would offer him four years before FA started, then they offered three. He would've come if they were willing to give him a fourth year. Says so in the pod that quote came from


So you're not the least bit concerned about his "how he operates" part of the quote and if other players feel the same way?

Meh. We just got Chris freaking Paul to force his way here, got Tucker to pass on more money in less years from Toronto to play here, Harden isn't remotely interested in free agency, got LMAM on the minimum, got Nene back on a sweetheart deal, and Melo is dying to come play in Houston. I'm really not going to lose sleep over what a player says after just saying he wanted to come here.

If it was really a concern, we wouldn't have Chris Paul. We wouldn't have Tucker. And Nene would've been bye bye. Melo would be a Cav. You just like to look at the little negative things while downplaying the fact that we just landed a top seven player and a ton of guys openly want to be in Houston. Including Reddick!


This has been a damn near perfect off-season, yet all the positive moves are no big deal to you, while finding this one comment is damning. It's not like Reddick was saying that's why he didn't/wouldn't want to play here. He WANTED to play here, he just couldn't get a fourth year, so he got a one year deal worth what the Rockets three year total offer was (he got 1yr/23 Mil, Rockets offer was likely the MLE 3 yr/24 Mil, so 8M per year)

You act as though the Rockets are having a hard time getting guys to come here, when the opposite is true

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