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How many picks are you willing to give?

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:25 pm
by Mr. E
As it has been said elsewhere, there is a lot of Rocket fan support for moving Ryan Anderson. I'm not sure how much of a priority it actually is for the front office; but with the fans and a lot of reporters that seems to be priority #1.

Anderson does have value in the right situation; but the sad truth is that he's a '16'er and that contract is tough to swallow.

So, to move Anderson, how many draft picks would you be comfortable with the Rockets giving up to make a deal happen?

1 First Round Pick? 2 First Round Picks? More than 2?

Only 2nds?

None?

Re: How many picks are you willing to give?

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:43 pm
by letsgorockets
One unprotected pick in '19, because of the low chance we suck next year, and maybe a distant 1st with protection growing stronger the later (top 5 in '20, top 10 in '21, lotto in '22, etc). But only if Capela signs long term for big money. If he takes the QO, then that alleviates the tax concern this year. Just eat next year, and dump him next offseason for cheap when he's expiring and the league has more cap space to go around.

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Re: How many picks are you willing to give?

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:08 pm
by MaxRider
one and top 20 unprotected
you read that right
top 20 unprotected
if in top 20, they get the pick, if 21-30, we keep the pick
Morey draft better in late 1st round anyway

Re: How many picks are you willing to give?

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:59 pm
by K_chile22
It would probably be two firsts for a straight dump but if something happens I expect Ryno+1st for a better bad contract in return

Re: How many picks are you willing to give?

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:04 am
by donkeylips
2019 unprotected first and two seconds. The 2019 pick might be the last pick of the first round

Re: How many picks are you willing to give?

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:43 pm
by texasholdem
How about Ryno and Onuaku for Z-Bo and Koufos?

Onuaku, Randolph and Koufos are all expiring while Anderson has 2 years left.

Kostas is actually a decent back up center that we can use while saving Nene for playoffs

Z-Bo still has some game left and added a three point shot last season
(last season he was 51 for 147 for 34% and before last season he was 148 for 582 in his career for only 25%)

SF: Melo?/Ennis
PF: Randolph/Tucker/Hartenstein
C: Capela?/Koufas/Nene/Zhou
PG: Paul/Gordon/Melton/MCW
SG: Harden/Green

TW: Edwards/Hunter


SF: Jackson/Shumpert
PF: Anderson/Bagley/Davis (eventually Bagley will start when he gets healthy of course)
C: Cauley-Stein/Giles/SkalLab/Onuaku
PG: Fox/Mason
SG: Bogdanovic/Hield/McLemore

Re: How many picks are you willing to give?

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 4:58 pm
by Mr. E
I would start Tucker over ZBo in a that scenario

Re: How many picks are you willing to give?

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:05 pm
by letsgorockets
How about Ryno/Qi/'19 1st for Shumpert/Z-Bo? Then cut Onuaku to make room for Hartenstein. Sign Duvall to a 2 Way, like what I saw from him in SL, and Melo.

CP3/MCW/Duvall (2 Way)
Harden/Gordon/Melton
Ennis/Green/Shumpert/Edwards
Tucker/Melo/Z-Bo
Capela/Nene/Hartenstein

Pretty strong starting line up, with a good veteran bench (plus MCW, yuck), and some youth developing behind that (Duvall, Melton, Edwards, Hartenstein) who can eventually replace our aging parts.

Edit: Or swap out Qi for Onuaku, and keep Qi, but I really wanna make room for Hartenstein. That guy has the tools to be the next Capela with the right tutelage.

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Re: How many picks are you willing to give?

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:59 pm
by texasholdem
Mr. E wrote:I would start Tucker over ZBo in a that scenario


Yeah you're probably right.
Kings signed Yogi Ferrell today so that eats a little bit into what they can offer Capela.

Re: How many picks are you willing to give?

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:27 am
by texasholdem
Kings signed Nemanja Bjelica for 3 years/20.5m

Bad news: they probably no longer are interested in trading for Ryan Anderson
Good news: they no longer have the cap space to offer Capela $20m a year

Re: How many picks are you willing to give?

Posted: Fri Sep 7, 2018 4:50 pm
by Coeur
Tucker, knight, 1st?
For
Gallinari

Re: How many picks are you willing to give?

Posted: Fri Sep 7, 2018 5:07 pm
by MaxRider
Coeur wrote:Tucker, knight, 1st?
For
Gallinari

hell no

Re: How many picks are you willing to give?

Posted: Fri Sep 7, 2018 5:12 pm
by Mr. E
Where did that idea even come from? How is that remotely good for Houston?

Re: How many picks are you willing to give?

Posted: Fri Sep 7, 2018 11:02 pm
by Coeur
Mr. E wrote:Where did that idea even come from? How is that remotely good for Houston?

Gallinari is a great fit for the guys the rockets have and the system. Pick 25ish and pj tucker plus knight seems like pretty good value


Looking at the rotation to me it seems like a tall athletic forward that can shoot and play 2 or 3 positions seems like the perfect add

What type of player would be worth that package

Re: How many picks are you willing to give?

Posted: Fri Sep 7, 2018 11:04 pm
by Coeur
MaxRider wrote:
Coeur wrote:Tucker, knight, 1st?
For
Gallinari

hell no

how? Even if you over rate tucker and over rate a 25ish pick and underrate gallinari it still doesn't seem like a hell no

Re: How many picks are you willing to give?

Posted: Sat Sep 8, 2018 2:09 am
by TMU
Coeur wrote:
MaxRider wrote:
Coeur wrote:Tucker, knight, 1st?
For
Gallinari

hell no

how? Even if you over rate tucker and over rate a 25ish pick and underrate gallinari it still doesn't seem like a hell no


Except Gallinari can't even play 60% of the season. He's better off going back to the Euroleague imo.

Durability is a real issue and no team will give up a core role player and add a first round pick to get him.

Re: How many picks are you willing to give?

Posted: Sat Sep 8, 2018 2:58 am
by MaxRider
Coeur wrote:
MaxRider wrote:
Coeur wrote:Tucker, knight, 1st?
For
Gallinari

hell no

how? Even if you over rate tucker and over rate a 25ish pick and underrate gallinari it still doesn't seem like a hell no


Gallinari is hardly healthy and you want Rockets toughest and most durable player?

Re: How many picks are you willing to give?

Posted: Sat Sep 8, 2018 8:14 pm
by K_chile22
Coeur wrote:
MaxRider wrote:
Coeur wrote:Tucker, knight, 1st?
For
Gallinari

hell no

how? Even if you over rate tucker and over rate a 25ish pick and underrate gallinari it still doesn't seem like a hell no
Gallos contract is just as bad as Rynos was.

Re: How many picks are you willing to give?

Posted: Sun Sep 9, 2018 12:25 am
by Mr. E
Coeur wrote:
MaxRider wrote:
Coeur wrote:Tucker, knight, 1st?
For
Gallinari

hell no

how? Even if you over rate tucker and over rate a 25ish pick and underrate gallinari it still doesn't seem like a hell no


Lose Tucker, lose a FRP and add an injury risk with an Anderson- like contract is a pretty solid Hell no.

Re: How many picks are you willing to give?

Posted: Sun Sep 9, 2018 5:22 am
by BallerTalk
Coeur wrote:
MaxRider wrote:
Coeur wrote:Tucker, knight, 1st?
For
Gallinari

hell no

how? Even if you over rate tucker and over rate a 25ish pick and underrate gallinari it still doesn't seem like a hell no


I thought "hell no" was putting it politely. :lol: