jove9 wrote:You mean, "overstatement," right?
Anyway, you're right about the team... and Bonzi.
Or is it "Bon$i"?
Lets not forget Ra$hard Lewi$
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No, Yao did not play well yesterday. He hasn't played well all season. His FG% is at a career low. His efficiency is at its worst since his rookie season. He is producing less in more minutes and looking like trash doing it. If he gets dominated by Howard tomorrow, it will only be an exclamation point on how horrible he has been this season. I truly wish that doesn't happen but at this point I'm resigned to that possibility.
Yao has downgraded from Ewing to Jermaine O'Neal.
There's always next year. Maybe he'll play better next November. Yao still has about 4-5 good years left in him. But this is a lost season for him. I won't hold my breath waiting for him to play better this year because he probably won't.
BTW don't bother calling me a Yao hater, everyone here knows I might be Yao's biggest fan on the board. It's just realism talking.
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no, it's your stupidity talking. this year yao has to do a lot more and we simply are seeing that he's not a franchise player. your expectations are just too high. yao is still playing at an all-star level. he was only a superstar last yr for stretches. but again, superstars perform in the playoffs b/c they exceed their reg. season's performance and yao hasn't done that.
if we put it in perspective and see yao as an all-star, he's doing fine. just need to work on some stuff but every player can get better as the season goes aong.
but your sarcasm is easily read b/c you're the same person who said tmac and houston are covering up something "behind-the-scenes" when it's as simple as he's injured.
DorfonCeltics wrote:I don't mean to get in the middle of your fight here but I wanted to add my two cents. As a Celtics fan who has only seen the Rockets play once or maybe twice other than last night's game, I thought Yao played great. He really made the Celtics defense have to focus on him. Hell he got both Perk and Pollard to foul out. We couldn't stop him on the pick and roll. I thought his defense was pretty solid too. I don't think Yao lost the game for the Rockets, I think KG won the game for the Celtics. Again, just my two cents. It was a great game to watch though and hopefully T-Mac is healthy for the March 18th game in Houston.
compucomp wrote:Did you forget that Yao was player of the month in November last year and ignoring the game where he played 6 minutes because he got injured he put up 26.8/9.7/2.1/2.2 before the injury? McGrady was in a massive sh*thole, but Yao lead the team to a very respectable record, we were about 5 games above .500 when Yao was injured. Again you can do a LOT worse than this for a franchise player or a superstar.
I only want to see Yao produce like he was producing then. He's done it before, why shouldn't I expect to see him do it again? Even the overall 25/9.4/2/2 from last year is great production that he isn't sniffing this year.
I'm not giving Yao any excuses. I said "this is a lost year for him and maybe he'll do better next year." I personally believe that Adelman is largely at fault, but that doesn't change the fact that this is a dismal year for him.
Even when healthy McGrady is not a franchise player or a superstar by your definition. What was he doing out there against Utah? Do I need to really get into how he was contained by Derek Fisher? Was he injured for most of last year? No he wasn't.
You don't think Yao is capable of being a superstar, so his performance is fine. I disagree. His performance last year shows that he is capable but this year he has descended to Jermaine O'Neal level production. That's why I am very disappointed with him. Why can't I expect Yao to match his production from last year?
BaYBaller wrote:nyk pretty much hit the nail on the head and I've been saying the same thing since this offense has started to turn around. Stats don't mean anything without the W, period. End of f'ing arguement. You're not a Rockets fan if you think otherwise.
All the elite teams have a balanced offense. TD, KG, etc. could put up monster stats every night if they wanted to but they don't for the betterment of the team. We've rode the T-Mac/Yao duo offense and it has gotten us nowhere, and management feels the same way with the Adelman hiring. To rag on Adelman to try to change the offensive culture of this club is both naive and short-sighted. Even if he fails, the gamble was worth it because the alternative would probably be another first-round exit.
This game is another example of that, they went away from what was working and tried to force it into Yao.
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Yep, everyone on the team is underperforming except Bon$i, and we know why he is really motivated this year, and it's not because he desperately wants to see the team win. Great work by Adelman, huh?
By your standard there are about 5 superstars in the league. Kobe, Lebron, Wade, KG, and Duncan, and Wade would be very borderline right now. McGrady has NOT been a superstar since his first year here, if you refuse to consider what Yao did last year as superstar production.
Again, I want to rip Adelman's head off because what he's doing to Yao, but the problem goes beyond that. Look at our crunch-time execution. Luther Head completely botches a post entry pass. The defense comes off KG at the top of the key and nobody rotates. Nobody boxes out Ray freaking Allen and lets him get 2 crucial offensive rebounds. What is this? BAD COACHING. Consistently poor crunchtime execution is evidence of BAD COACHING.
I'm bitterly disappointed in Yao's production because he performed better LAST YEAR, not five years ago, and last year was an injury year, so now that his injury healed he should at least be able to duplicate it? Apparently not. It's a lost year for him. Call him Jermaine O'Neal, Rik Smits, Shareef Abdur-Rahim, or whatever you want. He deserves it this year. He was producing like a superstar last year, and with McGrady out was pushing 30ppg and would be a strong MVP candidate. This year, he's producing like Jermaine O'Neal and looks like utter garbage with McGrady out.
Maybe next year will be better.