Step by step guide on how to beat the fronting easily

[jzmagik]

It really drives me crazy that none of the Rockets staff have taught or employed this. Here it goes

A defender fronting you and battling for ball denial will force you closer to the man trying to feed you the ball, if he has good fronting position, what you do is simple, give the fronter a small push and make off towards the basket... at which point the feed should already be on its way toward you, resulting in your defender being behind you...

Really, its not that hard and this is the absolute basics, stuff they teach in basketball camp.

We need to get our guards to train this kind of play on when they pass the ball because it does take good passing ability, and timing.

Obviously this will not work 100% of the time, but it is still extremely effective.

[CuttingEdge]

That push off is a foul buddy.. And lets not forget Yao pushing off is seen from Mars.. Refs will call it everytime because it's Yao pushing off. And moving that much is harder than suggested to beat the front. It's very energy consuming if you do it more than a couple times a game especially at Yao's size.

[jzmagik]

That pushoff is not a foul unless they flop like a fish.. anyways the push isn't necessary so you don't have to do it to create space, as long as you just make a sudden break to the basket you're good. It doesn't take much energy at all, certainly less when you're going coast to coast while they rotate the ball around the perimiter.

[HTown_TMac]

If only Yao was that athletic... You are making him like D. Howard which he is not. It won't work we need our guards to penetrate to get Yao the ball.. when they try and rotate thats the only way you can get YAO to beat it.

[jzmagik]

If only Yao was that athletic... You are making him like D. Howard which he is not. It won't work we need our guards to penetrate to get Yao the ball.. when they try and rotate thats the only way you can get YAO to beat it.

You don't need to be athletic to do this, I wish there was a youtube video out there to show this because its simple, just takes a little practicing.

[CuttingEdge]

Do you play ball at all? Beating a front can be tremendously difficult when you do it more than a couple times. It's very tiring especially with the girth Yao packs. Yao makes a tremendous effort by bumping with his hips to break away free if you observe closely, he does try. The sad thing is Yao can't jump for a lob pass over or around a fronting defense. His height just isnt enough to make up for not being able to jump at all. Put a comparable 6'11 to 7'0 player against each other and in a fronting defense approach and the other will just jump up for a lob dunk. It's sad that Yao can't **** jump.

[compucomp]

There is someone standing on the backside to steal the lob pass, always.

Yao can catch lobs and finish if a team plays lame defense and fronts without backside help, like the Knicks. We need the other guys to step up if a team stays disciplined and keeps the other defender there.

[CuttingEdge]

It's not just the fact Yao can't jump. He's not very proportional with his given size. If Yao could play the way he does now and had the arm's length that giant at UNC Ashville, Kenny George, he would easily take the lob and get to the rim regardless if there was another guy waiting. If Kenny George could play like Yao, he would dominate given he's got the arm's length that is the supreme advantage.

[jzmagik]

Do you play ball at all? Beating a front can be tremendously difficult when you do it more than a couple times. It's very tiring especially with the girth Yao packs. Yao makes a tremendous effort by bumping with his hips to break away free if you observe closely, he does try. The sad thing is Yao can't jump for a lob pass over or around a fronting defense. His height just isnt enough to make up for not being able to jump at all. Put a comparable 6'11 to 7'0 player against each other and in a fronting defense approach and the other will just jump up for a lob dunk. It's sad that Yao can't **** jump.

So you're saying this shouldn't be done more than a couple of times because it takes too much energy? That's a mute argument. The whole idea of fronting is staying ahead of your man, its very easy to break away just by suddenly running towards the basket. Hips really don't need to be involved in this type of play, using your hips to bump your opponent a bit before you break for the rim isn't necessary. I really don't see the whole it takes too much energy argument here.

As for his jumping ability, he doesn't even need to jump that high for it if the pass is good. And yes I play ball and have trained in these kind of things before.

[CuttingEdge]

Yao's got **** alligator arms, as mentioned by Mark Cuban, it's a blessing for his shooting touch but nothing else. Imagine if you were so tall but had the arms length you have now. It's not that hard to observe that Yao's short arms given his size is the disadvantage.

[tha_rock220]

Yao isn't man enough to seal defenders off behind him. That's why even Michael Doleac can deny Yao the ball.

Best way to get Yao the ball is to put McGrady in the high post, Yao at the 3-point line, and Yao in the low post in a triangle, screen his defender off him on the base line, or have Scola flash to the ft line and have Yao make a quick move to the front of the basket to recieve a quick short pass. Unfortunately, that last one won't work because Yao has the hands of a 5-4 Kenyan running a marathon in 40 degree weather.

Oh, and pushing a fronting defender is a foul. Superstars like Tim Duncan can do it and its called a savy veteran move, but a scrub like Yao would push to hard and be called every time.

[TMACFORMVP]

It's easier said than done. There's always a help defender (though today was essentially one on one) and he's not athletic or mobile enough to get in front or catch it over the top. He's really been taken out of games with that technique this season.

[compucomp]

Total BS

Do you have to infest every thread with your garbage?

[jzmagik]

It's easier said than done. There's always a help defender (though today was essentially one on one) and he's not athletic or mobile enough to get in front or catch it over the top. He's really been taken out of games with that technique this season.

Help defenders don't mean anything here, its the same idea of doubling Yao, having him pass out of the double to the open man in which the next defender comes and rotates. If you beat the front you seal your man off behidn you and the help defender is forced to rotate to you, you just pass to the open guy. Same idea of rotating the ball around the perimiter out of a Yao double team, until you get the open man.

Edit: Honestly, I've been really frustrated with Yaos calls for a while now, but lets pretend that he's being reffed fairly for once, and try to talk about this.

Pushing is not always a foul, and I do agree tharock that superstars will not get called for a push in this of play usually.

[tha_rock220]

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Do you have to infest every thread with your garbage?

typical for a yof. didnt know a basketball from a peach before the 02 draft. you cant offer any ideas about getting yao the ball because you dont know **** about basketball.

[Baller 24]

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Do you have to infest every thread with your garbage?

How come you put words that people never say....Im just wondering what your deal is man....he was thinking his own and how it should work out...and your here attacking. So why don't you prove something and say that Yao is better then Tmac, and is the main superstar of this team....Again in Rockets history 23% winning percentage without Tmac. Yao can put up all the stats he wants to, but if he can't get you into the playoffs then he is not worthy of anything...and Im being serious...I mean Tmac did it last season..why can't the best Center in the league?

[jzmagik]

There is someone standing on the backside to steal the lob pass, always.

Yao can catch lobs and finish if a team plays lame defense and fronts without backside help, like the Knicks. We need the other guys to step up if a team stays disciplined and keeps the other defender there.

Not if the player spacing is correct, guys should be a little out of the way to draw their defenders away in the post. Help defense will not come until Yao gets the ball.

[compucomp]

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typical for a yof. didnt know a basketball from a peach before the 02 draft. you cant offer any ideas about getting yao the ball because you dont know **** about basketball.

You know even less about basketball clearly because all you know how to do is make sh*t up and say Yao sucks.

Your talking points are so (Please Use More Appropriate Word) like BillO's talking points that they do not justify a legitimate response.

[Baller 24]

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You know even less about basketball clearly because all you know how to do is make sh*t up and say Yao sucks.

Your talking points are so (Please Use More Appropriate Word) like BillO's talking points that they do not justify a legitimate response.

Why don't you..all your using is stupid (Please Use More Appropriate Word) responses to bash ppl.

[jzmagik]

Please guys, let's not turn this into a pissing contest.