Finally in response to: "JVG Doesn't Play Rookies"
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:26 pm
In a way, this doesn't deserve its own thread. In another way, I'd very much like to put this attitude to rest - it's completely incorrect, and well past time to move on from it.
Max gave a good comment to this
There's been no denying that for a while, Landry, Scola, and Brooks [were/have been] defensive liabilities. I would imagine that he was taking the time to
- Try out the veterans we acquired to see how they worked
- Let them pick up offensive ropes in the NBA better
- (most important) Let them pick up some defensive tricks and strategies so they don't make a Novak out of themselves.
There were exactly FOUR rookies JVG had during his time (we traded away all our picks, remember?): VSpan (sucked. bad.), Novak ("matador defense" would be glowing praise, and when he got in last year he never did anything offensively - hence no PT), Snyder (not a rookie, but dumber than one. he didn't make it on two other teams either, and one of them was a rebuilding team made out of SCRUBS, if that tells you anything), Head (who played), and Luis Flores (WHO? WHAT?). I'm not counting or going into the topic of Rudy Gay because he simply didn't play for us.
Check our draft history since 2004. That's. It. I'm not going to look back at JVG's entire coaching history right now, but I feel pretty safe in saying that he's probably played worthwhile rookies and second years heavy minutes before. Charlie Ward perhaps. All the same, that attitude has surfaced because of his Rockets tenure, and as far as we're concerned, it is completely without merit. If anyone would like to make a good, serious argument that he should have played any of those 4 rookies in spite of what he'd seen in preseason, camps, and practice, go right ahead and try.
As I've pointed out before though, the coach sees a lot more than we do, and doesn't HAVE to see them play in a game to have a pretty good idea whether they can perform adequately or not.
RoxFan08 wrote:Not to hate on JVG, but our rookies wouldn't be playing well AT ALL, (they wouldn't get any PT, except for MAYBE Scola), and Hayes and Alston would both be playing around 30 minutes, with MJ the backup and Bonzi, Brooks, Landry, and Novak clicking their heels. Mutombo would also be getting serious minutes.
Adelman's style will work out better for us in the long run, methinks.
Max gave a good comment to this
MaxRider wrote:stop hating on JVG
he will play the rookies if they played good
VSpan absolutely suck
Scola is getting limited min early in the season also
while Brooks and Landry are seeing none
nothing workout and we are losing
Adelman just trying to put all possible combination out there
just turnout our rookies played the best
There's been no denying that for a while, Landry, Scola, and Brooks [were/have been] defensive liabilities. I would imagine that he was taking the time to
- Try out the veterans we acquired to see how they worked
- Let them pick up offensive ropes in the NBA better
- (most important) Let them pick up some defensive tricks and strategies so they don't make a Novak out of themselves.
There were exactly FOUR rookies JVG had during his time (we traded away all our picks, remember?): VSpan (sucked. bad.), Novak ("matador defense" would be glowing praise, and when he got in last year he never did anything offensively - hence no PT), Snyder (not a rookie, but dumber than one. he didn't make it on two other teams either, and one of them was a rebuilding team made out of SCRUBS, if that tells you anything), Head (who played), and Luis Flores (WHO? WHAT?). I'm not counting or going into the topic of Rudy Gay because he simply didn't play for us.
Check our draft history since 2004. That's. It. I'm not going to look back at JVG's entire coaching history right now, but I feel pretty safe in saying that he's probably played worthwhile rookies and second years heavy minutes before. Charlie Ward perhaps. All the same, that attitude has surfaced because of his Rockets tenure, and as far as we're concerned, it is completely without merit. If anyone would like to make a good, serious argument that he should have played any of those 4 rookies in spite of what he'd seen in preseason, camps, and practice, go right ahead and try.
As I've pointed out before though, the coach sees a lot more than we do, and doesn't HAVE to see them play in a game to have a pretty good idea whether they can perform adequately or not.