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Referees are horrible

Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 4:43 am
by PocketRockets
Is it just me or has this league stooped to an all time low? The calls have been horrible this year. Not just our series, but in all the series this year. Tim duncan trips over his own feet vs. the suns and Shaq gets the foul.

5.1 seconds left on the clock and the pistons get off a three pointer that never should have counted. What happened to the reset and make the Pistons replay the 5.1 seconds? Isn't that what usually happens when there's a clock malfunction? Isn't there supposed to be one referee that looks at the clock to make sure it's working right?

There seems to be a huge number of refereeing mistakes that should never happen at the professional level. People flop or fall down and the referee automatically calls the foul on the person that's closest to the flopper. Ridiculous! No body is set before they take the charge and sometimes it's a teammate that fouls/gets in the way and the call is against the opposing team.

I understand that the league has it's "teams" that they favor for matchup/money reasons, but this is getting out of control. The rogue referee was at least discrete about it, but this year it seems very blatant who they want in the finals (Boston vs Pistons and Spurs/Hornets vs Lakers). It doesnt matter who wins between NO and SA because lakers will get the nod by the front office and get to play boston in the finals. If that happens, hopefully no one will watch to backfire the league's plan to increase viewing/ratings.

Agree or disagree, I don't care. I call it like I see it.

Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 5:42 am
by TMU
You mean the officiating has been at its all-time low.
The league needs to implement an instant replay system to prevent further setups and agenda. It's funny how the more you know about the game, the more you become aware of these things...

EDIT: also Kobe getting the MVP award is blasphemous... :D

Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 7:15 am
by dream34
I'd just love more consistency.

Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 4:38 pm
by moofs
It's the same thing as everything else. Competition -> government granted monopoly -> wait until profitable -> owners screw the players to get a profit -> players unionize -> owners screw the customers to get a profit -> regulations and oversight added <-> owners constantly tap new holes in search of better revenue streams / income pipelines <-> squash or marginalize any and all upstart competition.

Who cares about fairness? At worst you alienate a few older, more jaded and embittered customers while suckering in a new generation. As population sizes grow and you expand your market overseas, you still win the percentages and grow your overall audience. The true benefit of corporate boxes is that they're intended to host business meetings/customers/partners, not basketball fans. You'll never truly alienate that kind of client with inequality because they aren't really there for the team.

I'm curious what would happen if the NBA ever hit cap and started backpedalling.

Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 4:48 pm
by Amel
I like the intensity

its a mens sport

let em get at each other, dont call everything

Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 5:26 pm
by DraftBoy10
Amel wrote:I like the intensity

its a mens sport

let em get at each other, dont call everything


That pistons-magic thing was no grind-it-out play, it was a time errior, and the league needed to address that at the time. I think that's such BS.

Anyways, you seem to like hardcore male action. lulz.

Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 5:35 pm
by PocketRockets
Amel wrote:I like the intensity

its a mens sport

let em get at each other, dont call everything


Exactly, Lewis and Turkolu? Gets man'ed up on and no call, then rip trips and falls and a foul is called? WTF.

It's all building up and one day not even Stern aka "the MAN" can fix it. When that happens, I'd love to hear the cover-up story.

Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 5:43 pm
by PocketRockets
moofs wrote:It's the same thing as everything else. Competition -> government granted monopoly -> wait until profitable -> owners screw the players to get a profit -> players unionize -> owners screw the customers to get a profit -> regulations and oversight added <-> owners constantly tap new holes in search of better revenue streams / income pipelines <-> squash or marginalize any and all upstart competition.

Who cares about fairness? At worst you alienate a few older, more jaded and embittered customers while suckering in a new generation. As population sizes grow and you expand your market overseas, you still win the percentages and grow your overall audience. The true benefit of corporate boxes is that they're intended to host business meetings/customers/partners, not basketball fans. You'll never truly alienate that kind of client with inequality because they aren't really there for the team.

I'm curious what would happen if the NBA ever hit cap and started backpedalling.


And then other more conservative countries will pounce on our weakness and deteriorating economy/govt and take over. They slowing buy up all of our companies and take over "legally." Lawyers are the biggest crooks milking away the people's money.

When the NBA hits cap, they'll try to salvage it and offer tons of money to the best stars just to keep them here. While other good, decent players will get crap and decide to go overseas. The level of competition overseas will get so good that USA will not even medal at the world competitions, further alienating the crap called the NBA. This will be a slow process though, but will happen sooner than later.

Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 5:51 pm
by moofs
PocketRockets wrote:And then other more conservative countries will pounce on our weakness and deteriorating economy/govt and take over. They slowing buy up all of our companies and take over "legally." Lawyers are the biggest crooks milking away the people's money.


Too late! Thanks for buying all our debt, China, ahahahaha!

Oh crap, that's not a good thing because now they own us, you say? Well, darn!

Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 6:18 pm
by Amel
DraftBoy10 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



That pistons-magic thing was no grind-it-out play, it was a time errior, and the league needed to address that at the time. I think that's such BS.

Anyways, you seem to like hardcore male action. lulz.


*no homo* :lol:

Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 6:40 pm
by bballmaniac27
Yea the end of the 3rd in the Pistons/Magic game was awful. But I really doubt there's a conspiracy against the Magic like some of their fans would like to believe. They executed poorly down the stretch and the better team won IMO.

Posted: Tue May 6, 2008 7:00 pm
by Amel
I have to agree, on the last call last night..I am not disputing that, the foul was obviosly there and should have been called

however, many things are not called and I am ok with it, but as crucial as last nights last minute was for the Magic, it was absolutely horrible not calling it

Posted: Wed May 7, 2008 6:41 am
by aznkillabeezZz
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