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Sounds like alot of you are content with the current roster 

Post#1 » by Guy986 » Mon Jun 2, 2008 3:03 pm

Alson/Brook
Tmac/MLE free Agent
Battier/ MLE FA/novak
Scola/Landry
Yao/ Chuck/ Mutombo

This current roster, barring any major injury,(chances of this happening is slim) can potentially win 60 games next season. This is a great regular season team with 2 stars, good veterans and some contributing youngsters. But do you really think we can win a championship with this squad? Hell, even making it pass the first round is doubtful. Unless we managed to get a top 3 seed in the regular season, i dont like our chances.
Can we beat LA,NO,SA? No
Can we beat Phoenix, Utah, Dallas? Maybe but leaning towards no.
Can we beat Denver, GS, Portland? Probably

Teams like LA,NO,SA, Phoenix, Utah and Dallas are all fighting for the O'Brian Trophy. The Rox, on the other hand, are just trying to get out of the first round. Dont lie to yourself, getting out of the first round would be considered to be a major accomplishment to alot of us and most importantly our best player, Tracy McGrady. Isn't that kind of pathetic? We're kind of trapped in no man's land. We're good maybe even very good, but not good enough to bring home a title. Definitely not bad enough to challenge for the first pick in the lottery.

I for one wouldn't be upset if we head into summer camp with this very roster. While i wouldn't be disheartened to see this team next year, i would be mad if Morey doesn't even try to juggle this team alittle bit. Alot of you sounds like you dont even want to see change. "No, we aren't trading Scola" "Not Battier" "Brook is young and he's got a great future so no" "I wouldn't trade Landry unless we get a star in return"

I just want to see us make a change. Most of the time, if you want talent, you have to give up talent. Most of you aren't willing to do that. You want to do Gasol type trades. Guess what? It ain't gonna happen.

Turk, Rasheed, Mike Miller, Ben Gordon.... Just get someone. :evil:

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Yea this is going to be one long summer alright.....
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Post#2 » by Guy986 » Mon Jun 2, 2008 3:23 pm

First move i'll like to see us make is sign The Machine to the MLE. This guy is absolutely killing it in the playoff. He's clutch, funny looking, goofy and has an awesome nickname. Recently he's been all the rage on the General board. We need to steal the Mojo from LA.
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Post#3 » by Baller 24 » Mon Jun 2, 2008 3:32 pm

This team is a 60 win team IF healthy year in and year out. But besides the big two, their aren't MANY offensive options. Landry IMO has great upside, he can become a terrific player in the future. I'd only trade him, if something big goes down. Brooks can leave if he wants to IMO, I really don't have much care for him, inconsistent, still has a lot to learn, and I don't even know if he can one day be a starting PG. Battier I have no problem letting go unless we get something in EQUAL value in return, someone like RJ, Carter, etc.
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Post#4 » by Guy986 » Mon Jun 2, 2008 3:44 pm

Baller 24 wrote:This team is a 60 win team IF healthy year in and year out. But besides the big two, their aren't MANY offensive options. Landry IMO has great upside, he can become a terrific player in the future. I'd only trade him, if something big goes down. Brooks can leave if he wants to IMO, I really don't have much care for him, inconsistent, still has a lot to learn, and I don't even know if he can one day be a starting PG. Battier I have no problem letting go unless we get something in EQUAL value in return, someone like RJ, Carter, etc.


I know this board gets hard watching Landry play but i'm not THAT high on him. Dont get me wrong. I love him. He's a steal for a 2nd rounder no doubt but he's already 24. I'm not sure he can even be a starter in this league. He's still a bit undersized and i think he just surprised alot of players. Next year guys are going to watch him. I'm not sure if he's got as high an upside as some of you think. He's had a terrific rookie year but if his value is high enough, i would trade him for something good.
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Post#5 » by luhbron » Mon Jun 2, 2008 3:53 pm

Ben Gordon? Reallly?

I think Mike Miller should be priority 1.

Also, I think Aaron Brooks is good and everything but I would trade him for the right price. I think he is overvalued. I'm thinking him with other pieces for Travis Outlaw and/or Segio Rodriguez.
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Post#6 » by MaxRider » Mon Jun 2, 2008 3:57 pm

i don't mind trading Battier+Brooks+filler for Artest
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Post#7 » by Vator » Mon Jun 2, 2008 3:57 pm

I would trade any of those guys you mention if it were the right deal and I don't mean a lopsided deal. I mean a deal that I felt made the team better which is a matter of opinion. I guess we will find out what Adelman and Morey's opinions are in the future. A guy like Turk is undoubtedly superior to Battier on offense, but did you see how pathetic he was on defense in the Detroit series? There is a reason so many Orlando fans are trying to come up with deals to to try to improve their defense. A guy goes 19, 5, and 5 and you're thinking about trading him?
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Post#8 » by Vator » Mon Jun 2, 2008 3:59 pm

MaxRider wrote:i don't mind trading Battier+Brooks+filler for Artest


I'd do that deal too if he signed a new contract with us. Oh yeah...it would have to have a "crazy clause" in it too just in case he goes psycho again so we wouldn't have to be stuck with his contract. :wink:
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Post#9 » by Guy986 » Mon Jun 2, 2008 4:01 pm

Vator wrote:I would trade any of those guys you mention if it were the right deal and I don't mean a lopsided deal. I mean a deal that I felt made the team better which is a matter of opinion. I guess we will find out what Adelman and Morey's opinions are in the future. A guy like Turk is undoubtedly superior to Battier on offense, but did you see how pathetic he was on defense in the Detroit series? There is a reason so many Orlando fans are trying to come up with deals to to try to improve their defense. A guy goes 19, 5, and 5 and you're thinking about trading him?


That is true. Honestly Battier is the one guy i would absolutely hate to give up. I would be upset if he's gone. He's one of the best defender in the league and a geniune good guy. But i'll get over it when Turk or someone puts up close to 18PPG.
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Post#10 » by Guy986 » Mon Jun 2, 2008 4:03 pm

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I'd do that deal too if he signed a new contract with us. Oh yeah...it would have to have a "crazy clause" in it too just in case he goes psycho again so we wouldn't have to be stuck with his contract. :wink:


I would do it even without the crazy clause as long as he signs an extension with us. We'll have our own version of big 3 with Artest. Sometimes you have to gamble.
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Post#11 » by Guy986 » Mon Jun 2, 2008 4:05 pm

And notice how i dont even have Head in my roster? He's dead to me. Ship him to europe for somebody's right.
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Post#12 » by Shabi__5 » Mon Jun 2, 2008 4:10 pm

I am not content at all with the currwnt roster.
I would want to kill my self if we begin next year and Bobby Jackson , Luther Head , and Chuck Hayes are still in our rotation.

For this team to really be a contender we need a very good 6th man who will be a wing who can play the 2 or 3 and we need a very good backup.

I would trade Battier in a 2nd for a player like Artest , but I wouldn't trade him for a guy like Miller.
The guy we get for Battier must be able to play above average defense or else he won't fit.

I want us to draft CDR or Brandon Rush someone like that , and I really want us to trade Head for a 2nd round pick and draft someone like Bill Walker or JJ Hickson , there is a lot of talent in this draft.

And we need to wait , most of the good expiring contracts deals come before the deadline , nobody gives up before the season even started.
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Post#13 » by Shabi__5 » Mon Jun 2, 2008 4:13 pm

Brooks I am not high on him at all I think he can show me he can shoot , he was supposed to be a great shooter whats up with all the bricks??
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Post#14 » by Guy986 » Mon Jun 2, 2008 4:17 pm

Shabi__5 wrote:Brooks I am not high on him at all I think he can show me he can shoot , he was supposed to be a great shooter whats up with all the bricks??


Exactly. This guy was supposely a great shooter but he couldn't even make wide open 3s. Maybe its the nerve? Didn't he beat Novak in a 3 point shooting contest? Was Novak drunk?
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Post#15 » by RoxFan08 » Mon Jun 2, 2008 4:36 pm

I think you are forgetting, we own some of the top West teams. We historically play the Lakers well (although we haven't faced the latest edition yet), we OWN San Antonio when we have Yao, and we don't have too much trouble crushing NO either.

With Phoenix's changes, assuming we have Yao, we have an easier matchup. Dallas just isn't that good any more. Denver has never been a problem.

Utah is really the only team we matchup poorly against, and its just been our misfortune to draw them two years in a row.
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Post#16 » by Vator » Mon Jun 2, 2008 4:52 pm

I wouldn't say we matchup poorly with Utah. 7 games last year and the game was decided in the final minutes. 6 games this year without Yao and missing Alston for 2 and a half games. Injuries hurt us this year. Seems like things may have been different this year with the additions of Scola and Landry. Milsap and Boozer gave us headaches last year, but not so much this year.
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Post#17 » by Guy986 » Mon Jun 2, 2008 5:51 pm

RoxFan08 wrote:I think you are forgetting, we own some of the top West teams. We historically play the Lakers well (although we haven't faced the latest edition yet), we OWN San Antonio when we have Yao, and we don't have too much trouble crushing NO either.

With Phoenix's changes, assuming we have Yao, we have an easier matchup. Dallas just isn't that good any more. Denver has never been a problem.

Utah is really the only team we matchup poorly against, and its just been our misfortune to draw them two years in a row.


Really we own San Antonio? Thats news to me. Well we own Utah too. In the regular season.

Do you honestly think that we had a chance of beating the Spurs in the playoffs the past few years? Utah is one of the few teams in the playoff that we can realistically defeat in a 7 game series. Its not misfortume to draw them two years in a row. Result would've been the same had we faced Phoenix or Mavericks or SA. We just aren't that good of a playoff team.
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Post#18 » by DraftBoy10 » Mon Jun 2, 2008 6:02 pm

I am content with this team, but we can make 1-2 moves.

I'm not going to be satisified unless we add a legit 3rd option perimeter scorer preferabbly a swing size(6'5 +). Reduce the number of combo guards...bobby, stevie, luther all suck, way too many.

Re-sign Landry.

I like:
Yao/Deke
Scola/Landry/Chucky(for certain matchups we need need him)
Shane/Swing
TMac/Swing
Rafer/Aaron or a vet PG if we deal Aaron

We don't need to make many moves, just 1-2 of the right ones.
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Post#19 » by RoxFan08 » Mon Jun 2, 2008 6:03 pm

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Really we own San Antonio? Thats news to me. Well we own Utah too. In the regular season.

Do you honestly think that we had a chance of beating the Spurs in the playoffs the past few years? Utah is one of the few teams in the playoff that we can realistically defeat in a 7 game series. Its not misfortume to draw them two years in a row. Result would've been the same had we faced Phoenix or Mavericks or SA. We just aren't that good of a playoff team.


Check whenever we play the Spurs when we have Yao (even without Tmac) and look at the scores. We just destroy them. Battier almost always does a decent job on Ginobili, and Duncan is ineffective on both ends against Yao. Tmac playing well is just icing on the cake.

The way Utah matches well against us (jump shooting center and PF), we match up well against SA. I like our chances (as a fully healthy team) against the Spurs in any series.
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Post#20 » by DraftBoy10 » Mon Jun 2, 2008 6:07 pm

Roxfan is right, we do match up well against the Spurs. As for the Jazz, I think with Adelman aboard we can take them when healthy.

These new Lakers, and I even think the Suns could cause problems for us. Adding that 3rd option will put us over the top, even so I'm willing to slightly over pay.

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