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Daryl Morey is DIRTY!!! 

Post#1 » by TMU » Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:16 am

While I vehemently disagree with his selections in Greene and Dorsey, I acknowledge that Morey was brilliant in this draft. He traded our 25th pick and acquired the 28th, 33rd, and Grizzlies' 2009 2nd-round pick (which will be a high second-round pick). So you think it can't get much brilliant than this, right? Wrong!!!

Morey also fooled the Memphis Grizzlies and the San Antonio Spurs in this draft. Perhaps Morey found out that Memphis wanted Darrell Arthur and also knew that both San Antonio and Portland were going after Nicholas Batum. So, here's what Morey did:

First, Morey drafted Nicholas Batum with our 25th pick and prevented the Spurs from taking their guy. Note that this was the second time he has done this to the Spurs (last year with Aaron Brooks).

Selecting Batum gave Morey the option to negotiate with both the Spurs and the Blazers. However, knowing that the Blazers had more draft picks than the Spurs had, Morey began his negotiations with Kevin Pritchard.

Morey told the Blazers' GM to take Darrell Arthur with Portland's 27th in order to initialize a trade between the two teams. At that point of the draft, the Darrell Arthur rumor (Batum for Arthur and Portland's 2nd-round pick) surged.

Since Arthur was gone, Memphis was forced to take Donte Greene with their 28th. Now, Donte Greene was not only the best player available at that position but also was the player that Morey wanted. Once Greene was drafted, Morey forced Chris Wallace into a 3-way deal and demanded Wallace to give up Memphis' future 2nd round pick.

Hence, Morey was able to finalize this 3-way deal by drawing Chris Wallace's attention into thinking that this was a 2-way deal between Portland and us. And I am not sure if this was a coincidence; this whole process screwed over the Spurs, which is totally sweet because they are our division rival.

San Antonio got pwned. Chris Wallace also got pwned. :D

p.s.: This doesn't change the fact that I am still mad at him.
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Post#2 » by TMACFORMVP » Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:49 am

Yeah, we ended up trading the 25th for the 28th and 33rd with another potentially high second next season. I don't mind the picks either! :)
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Post#3 » by BlueLancerEvo » Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:11 am

the guy sure knows how to squeeze every last drop of value out of draft picks . thats for sure. its like going grocery shopping with nothing but coupons and leaving the store with food + pocket change.
kind of makes you wonder if swift+gay for battier was really his idea..
now, we wait until the trade deadline . lets see what he can get for bjax/head/chuck/francis..
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Post#4 » by PocketRockets » Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:45 pm

I totally agree!! Now we have future draft picks to sweeten up any trades we might do soon (stating the obvious). Let's be honest, nobody other than the 1st 3 picks are going to be game/team changing players. I seriously doubt Greene and Dorsey will get much, if any, PT other than in blowouts/injury time. The pick will entice young rebuilding teams to give up a solid player a la vince carter-Nets. I don't think he'd necessarily be a good match here, but when he changes scenery he usually puts up decent numbers for a year and a half. ~~Hopefully we're healthy in that time, and win a title........dreamminnn~~~
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Post#5 » by kevC » Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:51 pm

I actually really like the pick. The League always has a place for a shooter. Especially one who's 6'10" and can jump through the roof.
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Post#6 » by moofs » Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:50 pm

Morey is a sick, sick man. I don't know anything about our draft picks yet, but that sort of trading is ridiculous. I'd only be a little wary of rubbing too much in the Spurs faces lest they start working just as hard against us. Still, ... I'm in awe. Fear the MIT. FEAR IT!!!

As far as Morey's drafting ability, Scola, Landry, Brooks, Green, Dorsey, Novak (possibly Head and Hayes, I don't know if Morey was involved in those) is a WELL above average draft record. If nothing else, you have one great (but was was noted earlier, probably peaked as well) rookie, one very-good-so-far rookie, one workable rookie, one situational rookie (the last 3 mentions all with room for improvement), and 2 unknowns. Morey arrived the year after Head and Hayes were picked, so they don't count, of course. Considering how many guys fall out of the league within the first year or two, if they even play at all, that's a damn good record, especially if either of these new guys is worthwhile.

Even if these guys both flame out miserably, even if... a LOT of draft picks don't work out, for EVERY team, it's part of drafting in the NBA, it just happens, the draft is a crapshoot. But the way he was able to make these trades - getting the guy he wanted while blocking one of his main rivals from getting the guy they wanted AND getting extra draft picks while doing it?

That's insane. IN-SANE. In Morey we Trust. (damn nice post too, TMU, though I don't get why you're mad in light of the aspects of: crapshoot + awesomeness of the trades + pick quality is pure speculation thus far). It can't be said enough that I'm in complete jaw-dropped-pick-me-up-off-the-floor awe. Morey has yet to make a move that I didn't agree with and could have never thought up.

p.s. We could really use a classic / funniest posts thread to archive great posts/threads like this via a short 1 sentence summary, poster, and link.
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Post#7 » by DraftBoy10 » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:15 pm

Morey just sucked it out of both of them, agreed.

However, that 2nd next year is going to be incredibly valuable because it may allow us to trade up or get a steal. On top of that, credit to Memphis for the acquisition of Mayo that was superb on their behalf.

As for Dorsey and Greene. I guess Joey is our 3rd string big, and Greene needs to be fine tuned. He's an interesting prospect, but was deemed as top 10 throughout the year, like DeAndre Jordan, but really fell. I think he's just immature. Hopefully, we can actually work with him cause he has a lot of size for a wing.
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Post#8 » by Amel » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:18 pm

lol

sounds like the San Antonio Spurs would have won the championship with Brooks

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Post#9 » by moofs » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:21 pm

?Que?
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Post#10 » by MaxRider » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:54 pm

TMU why post this?
now everyone will know Morey is evil and wont deal with him anymore
why? why? why?
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Post#11 » by TMU » Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:02 pm

moofs wrote:Morey is a sick, sick man. I don't know anything about our draft picks yet, but that sort of trading is ridiculous. I'd only be a little wary of rubbing too much in the Spurs faces lest they start working just as hard against us. Still, ... I'm in awe. Fear the MIT. FEAR IT!!!

As far as Morey's drafting ability, Scola, Landry, Brooks, Green, Dorsey, Novak (possibly Head and Hayes, I don't know if Morey was involved in those) is a WELL above average draft record. If nothing else, you have one great (but was was noted earlier, probably peaked as well) rookie, one very-good-so-far rookie, one workable rookie, one situational rookie (the last 3 mentions all with room for improvement), and 2 unknowns. Morey arrived the year after Head and Hayes were picked, so they don't count, of course. Considering how many guys fall out of the league within the first year or two, if they even play at all, that's a damn good record, especially if either of these new guys is worthwhile.

Even if these guys both flame out miserably, even if... a LOT of draft picks don't work out, for EVERY team, it's part of drafting in the NBA, it just happens, the draft is a crapshoot. But the way he was able to make these trades - getting the guy he wanted while blocking one of his main rivals from getting the guy they wanted AND getting extra draft picks while doing it?

That's insane. IN-SANE. In Morey we Trust. (damn nice post too, TMU, though I don't get why you're mad in light of the aspects of: crapshoot + awesomeness of the trades + pick quality is pure speculation thus far). It can't be said enough that I'm in complete jaw-dropped-pick-me-up-off-the-floor awe. Morey has yet to make a move that I didn't agree with and could have never thought up.

p.s. We could really use a classic / funniest posts thread to archive great posts/threads like this via a short 1 sentence summary, poster, and link.


Thank you, moofs.
I was definitely pissed off last night and it took me a while to sober up and realize that this draft wasn't too bad. And you are right in all regards, but in my own perspective, these selections were poor. Hopefully I am wrong, and I will own up to my words.

Looking the grand scheme of things, I highly doubt that Memphis would have traded Kevin Love for O.J. Mayo had they never traded for Darrell Arthur. Chris Wallace should be thankful that Morey's masterplan worked with a perfection. In return, Memphis improved significantly in this draft (of course they're rebuilding for the future). Had Morey's plan failed, he would never dreamed of finding a quality replacement for Love while acquiring Mayo. Looking back, I think Morey should have blackmailed Wallace for Mike Miller or a future first round pick instead. :)
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Post#12 » by MaxRider » Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:04 pm

don't know about Kevin Pritchard
but that guy schooled us for Brandon Roy
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Post#13 » by jove9 » Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:04 pm

He sounds like the worst GM in the league. Right McGrady2Head?

Morey is just a HORRIBLE GM!

BTW, does the acquisition of Greene spell the end for Novak and close the door on Gerald Green? Just how good of a shooter is Greene? Curious.
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Post#14 » by MaxRider » Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:11 pm

jove9 wrote:He sounds like the worst GM in the league. Right McGrady2Head?

Morey is just a HORRIBLE GM!

BTW, does the acquisition of Greene spell the end for Novak and close the door on Gerald Green? Just how good of a shooter is Greene? Curious.


Greene is a chunker (like Eddie Griffin)
shoot over 7 3pts per game in NCAA while avg less than 35%
he needs to improve his shot selection
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Post#15 » by TMU » Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:13 pm

jove9 wrote:He sounds like the worst GM in the league. Right McGrady2Head?

Morey is just a HORRIBLE GM!

BTW, does the acquisition of Greene spell the end for Novak and close the door on Gerald Green? Just how good of a shooter is Greene? Curious.


Based on what I saw, his shooting range mirrors that of McGrady's but he's a streaky outside shooter. He can rely on his outside shooting a bit too much. When he was in college, Syracuse, his college team, ran an upbeat uptempo offensive. However, his lack of basketball IQ forces him to take so many ill-advised 3 pointers, including transition 3 pointers. His 90 3-pointers set a school single-season record for freshmen. Rather than "T-Mac' in" in games, dude needs to work on his strength and improve his slashing game.

Novak's a basketball saint when you compare Greene to him.
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Post#16 » by Baller 24 » Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:16 pm

jove9 wrote:He sounds like the worst GM in the league. Right McGrady2Head?

Morey is just a HORRIBLE GM!

BTW, does the acquisition of Greene spell the end for Novak and close the door on Gerald Green? Just how good of a shooter is Greene? Curious.


I think Green will still be signed this off season, I have feeling Head is going to be gone, while we make room for him.
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Post#17 » by texasholdem » Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:17 pm

Did the Spurs really want Batum?
I read they e-mailed all the teams trying to offer the 26th pick.
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Post#18 » by MaxRider » Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:23 pm

texasholdem wrote:Did the Spurs really want Batum?
I read they e-mailed all the teams trying to offer the 26th pick.

we may never know
that it's all about strategy
Spurs might just want to negotiate with other team to see what other team are doing
pretty sure Morey found out about Portland's plan by talking to other team GM (maybe McHale and Ainge)
since we know he's close to the Boston
Minnesota traded Mayo to Memphis for Love
maybe that's how he found out Memphis is after Arthur
since Portland got early 2nd round so he's trying to see what he's doing
Portland been pretty active in trade during draft night since they hired Kevin Pritchard
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Post#19 » by TMU » Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:24 pm

texasholdem wrote:Did the Spurs really want Batum?
I read they e-mailed all the teams trying to offer the 26th pick.


It is clear that the Spurs wanted Batum. After Batum worked out for the Spurs, his agent didn't return any calls from other teams. Morey knew that there was something fishy going on between Batum and the Spurs.

The Spurs did one thing though, they fooled New Jersey by addressing to the media that they'll take Ryan Anderson.
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Post#20 » by moofs » Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:37 pm

T-Mac United wrote:I was definitely pissed off last night and it took me a while to sober up and realize that this draft wasn't too bad. And you are right in all regards, but in my own perspective, these selections were poor. Hopefully I am wrong, and I will own up to my words.


No idea about Greene, but I liked Baller 24's take on it (I think you saw this) - viewtopic.php?f=16&t=786385&start=570

Even if Greene is a project, I have a suspicion, having never seen CDR, Greene, or anyone else play, that they thought his defense was going to putting him in the Novak category. If that's the case, might as well keep the more accurate/taller/cheaper shooter that you have and go with the guy who has more tools/skill/ability but needs more polishing.

With Dorsey, a banger is a banger. As long as he has the strength to do it, and it sounds like he does, his game should translate pretty well which means we stand a good shot at cutting salary.

Just some thoughts, I'm completely talking out my butt with them.

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