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Mutombo Unlikely To Play For Vet Minimum 

Post#1 » by Transistor » Fri Aug 1, 2008 3:39 pm

http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wireta ... t_minimum/

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I was certain Deke would be back, but now I dunno. Should we look at trading Head / Novak for a back up C?
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Re: Mutombo Unlikely To Play For Vet Minimum 

Post#2 » by MaxRider » Fri Aug 1, 2008 3:48 pm

that's why we can't give Landry the full MLE
because we need to save some for Mutombo
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Re: Mutombo Unlikely To Play For Vet Minimum 

Post#3 » by TMU » Fri Aug 1, 2008 4:29 pm

Les Alexander should donate some money to the Mutombo Hospital.
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Re: Mutombo Unlikely To Play For Vet Minimum 

Post#4 » by moofs » Fri Aug 1, 2008 5:02 pm

Remember, he wasn't going to play last year for the minimum, but then Les donated a lot of money to the hospital and avoided the luxury tax at the same time. He still got the money, but it cost Les less.
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Re: Mutombo Unlikely To Play For Vet Minimum 

Post#5 » by HTown_TMac » Fri Aug 1, 2008 5:05 pm

^^ Same thing is going to happen this year unless another team throws money at Deke.
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Re: Mutombo Unlikely To Play For Vet Minimum 

Post#6 » by KiDdFrESh » Fri Aug 1, 2008 5:42 pm

He shouldnt have to play for the minimum.

Split the MLE on Landry, Mutombo, & Dorsey and call it an off-season.

Get it done already !
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Re: Mutombo Unlikely To Play For Vet Minimum 

Post#7 » by MaxRider » Fri Aug 1, 2008 6:02 pm

KiDdFrESh wrote:He shouldnt have to play for the minimum.

Split the MLE on Landry, Mutombo, & Dorsey and call it an off-season.

Get it done already !


i believe if we spend the full MLE we will be over the luxury tax limit
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Post#8 » by moofs » Fri Aug 1, 2008 6:07 pm

That's probably what the "minor trade(s)" that may or may not still be upcoming are going to deal with. :dontknow:
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Re: Mutombo Unlikely To Play For Vet Minimum 

Post#9 » by KiDdFrESh » Fri Aug 1, 2008 6:29 pm

MaxRider wrote:
KiDdFrESh wrote:He shouldnt have to play for the minimum.

Split the MLE on Landry, Mutombo, & Dorsey and call it an off-season.

Get it done already !


i believe if we spend the full MLE we will be over the luxury tax limit


So what ?? Les Alexander has ALWAYS been one to spend money if he knew it would benifit the team. The Houston Rockets are the only sports franchise in this city thats committed to winning and it has been this way for a very long time. Unlike the Astros. The Texans do, but thats different considering they're building from scratch.

The Barkley trade is a perfect example. After winning two championships, no major shake ups were necessary. But he still pulled the trigger to bring him. And then after that, he brings in Scottie Pippen and now Ron Artest.

Anyways, I had to watch the Rockets blow 20+ million annually on Cato, Taylor, & Norris sorry asses for way too many seasons. Those guys crippled our cap from and prevented us from being able to put any quality talent around Stevie Franchise. This is the best team the Rockets have had since the Glory Days. As a die hard, its been way too long and way too painful to wait this long to become "SERIOUS" contenders again.

Morey has only made two mistakes since hes been GM. The first was trading for Mike James, which he quickly fixed. The 2nd mistake was signing Landry to a 1 year deal in the first place. I was stunned when I found out about that. Its really starting to backfire right now.

This roster is damn near perfect when considering how lucky we are to have quality talent signed to reasonable deals (Artest, Alston, Battier, Scola, Hayes, Barry, & yes Francis too) to play with Yao and T-Mac. Get the sh*t done already !!! Landry was a HUGE steal for us and it would a HUGE mistake to not bring him back. Deke has been great for us. I dont care what it takes just get it done. If he has to donate more loot to Mutombos hospital then do that. That way we wont pay as much for the luxury tax.

Luxury tax should not be an excuse if this franchise is really serious about bringing another title to Houston.

Damn that felt good to vent.
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Re: Mutombo Unlikely To Play For Vet Minimum 

Post#10 » by MaxRider » Fri Aug 1, 2008 6:37 pm

KiDdFrESh wrote:
MaxRider wrote:
KiDdFrESh wrote:He shouldnt have to play for the minimum.

Split the MLE on Landry, Mutombo, & Dorsey and call it an off-season.

Get it done already !


i believe if we spend the full MLE we will be over the luxury tax limit


So what ?? Les Alexander has ALWAYS been one to spend money if he knew it would benifit the team. The Houston Rockets are the only sports franchise in this city thats committed to winning and it has been this way for a very long time. Unlike the Astros. The Texans do, but thats different considering they're building from scratch.

The Barkley trade is a perfect example. After winning two championships, no major shake ups were necessary. But he still pulled the trigger to bring him. And then after that, he brings in Scottie Pippen and now Ron Artest.

that's in the past (before 9/11 and all the economic is going bad)
he didn't show he's willing to spend the extra cash in the past few years
i expect Morey to send Novak away for free so we can save almost 2M from Les' pocket
(i think we are already in luxury tax zone now without Landry and Mutombo)

Morey has only made two mistakes since hes been GM. The first was trading for Mike James, which he quickly fixed. The 2nd mistake was signing Landry to a 1 year deal in the first place. I was stunned when I found out about that. Its really starting to backfire right now.

signing Landry to 1 year minimum deal is a perfect example of Les not willing to spend
you don't think we can give Landry a normal 2nd round pick contract?
(normal 31st pick will get more than the minimum)
it's because Morey is trying to save as much as he can for Les

Luxury tax should not be an excuse if this franchise is really serious about bringing another title to Houston.

if we are good enough Les may push the OK button
but are we good enough?
the main reason i think we still haven't give any offer to Landry is because we are trying to save as much as possible
don't be surprise to see Dorsey going to same route as Landry last year (no contract until few days before training camp)
he already had disagreement on insurance coverage during summer league with Morey
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Re: Mutombo Unlikely To Play For Vet Minimum 

Post#11 » by TEXNIFICENT » Fri Aug 1, 2008 6:43 pm

:o This too shall pass. Deke & Les will work something out. Buddy Baker (Landry's agent) on the other hand is a major PIA!!
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Re: Mutombo Unlikely To Play For Vet Minimum 

Post#12 » by Vator » Fri Aug 1, 2008 7:21 pm

Prior to the Artest deal I must admit that I didn't want Deke back, but I think his presence in the locker room will be his biggest and most needed contribution to the team this year if we can get him to come back.
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Post#13 » by Three34 » Fri Aug 1, 2008 9:28 pm

You don't need to use the MLE on Mutombo. You have Bird rights.
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Re: Mutombo Unlikely To Play For Vet Minimum 

Post#14 » by Jaykoolzboy » Fri Aug 1, 2008 10:50 pm

Just offer him 2 mil this year
then 6 mils/2 years for Landry
Dorsey for Rookie contract

We are set
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Re: Mutombo Unlikely To Play For Vet Minimum 

Post#15 » by KiDdFrESh » Fri Aug 1, 2008 10:57 pm

maxrider,

You could be right about the economy but still...

Novak and V-Span got 3 year deals and they were 2nd round picks. They prolly thought they could sign Landry cheaper after 1 year compared to 3. That was stupid. I dont care what kind of spin you put on it.
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Re: Mutombo Unlikely To Play For Vet Minimum 

Post#16 » by Three34 » Fri Aug 1, 2008 11:34 pm

Almost certainly what happened is that the Rockets tabled Landry the most unattractive offer that they could (one year unguaranteed minimum) because they didn't want him to accept it. You have to make an offer to people whose draft rights you own (which means that Venson Hamilton has one on the table too), so if you don't want them to accept it, that's what you offer.

Landry did anyway, and it worked out well for him. Much the same once happened to Chris Duhon.
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Re: Mutombo Unlikely To Play For Vet Minimum 

Post#17 » by Vator » Sat Aug 2, 2008 12:10 am

I don't know why people think Landry got paid so little when he got the same thing as most other 2nd rounders like Big Baby Glen Davis and Josh McRoberts for example.
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Re: Mutombo Unlikely To Play For Vet Minimum 

Post#18 » by 2fast4u » Sat Aug 2, 2008 12:28 am

5 yr/ $80 million for mutombo! get it done morey!!
its ok to break some rules once in a while...
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Re: Mutombo Unlikely To Play For Vet Minimum 

Post#19 » by MaxRider » Sat Aug 2, 2008 12:33 am

KiDdFrESh wrote:maxrider,

You could be right about the economy but still...

Novak and V-Span got 3 year deals and they were 2nd round picks. They prolly thought they could sign Landry cheaper after 1 year compared to 3. That was stupid. I dont care what kind of spin you put on it.

it's the total that matter
we have more total salaries than 2 years ago
don't forget Jackie Butler and Justin Reed still count against our cap (total about 4.1M)
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Re: Mutombo Unlikely To Play For Vet Minimum 

Post#20 » by moofs » Sat Aug 2, 2008 4:11 am

Sham, that thread is awesome.
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