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whats your opinion about mcgrady saying that he would not mind going to the pistons?

I think T-mac sucks, mentally. Also, even if he did say it, who cares? We aren't going to trade him unfortunately.

The same opinion I have about Tinkerbell's election to Speaker of the House.

Neither one happened and anyone that thinks they did needs to read more carefully.

That hes the key to our success. Everyone said KG was a career loser before he went to Boston. He gets two All-Stars around him and then he wins it all. Well I feel that now we have enough quality talent around T-Mac & Yao to go to the next level. Lets just sign our backup bigs and we will be good to go.

Personally I think T-Mac's problems have come from 2 straight seasons of having to do nearly everything in order to make it to the playoffs. He should have a bounce back year this season providing hes healthy

I think T-Mac is a fair weather athlete. If he is on a bad team, he wont give it all he has. If he has a great team, hes a top 5 player in the league. The best I have ever seen T-Mac play was on two different occassions 1.) his first year in houston, especially in the playoffs. he sincerely thought they had a chance to win the title. I remember a grant hill interview where grant mentioned he still talks to tmac, and he said tmac told him they are about to win the title in houston, and he was very excited. we all know that t-mac went OFF that series, dallas just had more overall talent (or the refs on their payroll). but in the end juwan didnt play a min and we were stuck with ryan bowen, and sura caught the flu. Anyway, the other time in his career when t-mac went off was the first year patrick ewing signed with the Magic, and when everyone thought grant hill was healthy again and would be ok. I remember opening night t-mac had a glow about him. he was fired up, and stayed that way for about a month. He had grant hill back, and an all star center in ewing downlow. Unfortunately, after about a month, Grant Hill was injured again and never cameback, and it was easy to see Ewing was WAAAAAAAAY past his prime.

my point in all this is T-Mac is weak mentally, and sometimes a little lazy. The best thing you can do is surround him with ALOT of talent to excite him about the possibilities. When he's not pumped, you will look at him and think what might have been. When he is pumped, he is better than Kobe Bryant, and the closest thing to Michael Jordan I have ever seen. The good news for us is he averaged 27 points in last years playoffs with the defense focusing mainly on him. he was third behind only lebron and kobe in ppg in the playoffs. and even better good news for us, is we have now surrounded him with Yao Ming, Ron Artest, Luis Scola, Shane Battier, Carl Landry, Rafer Alston, etc. He has never even come close to this kind of a team. He has had the worst teammates of any player i have ever seen during his career. he took a team of darrell armstrong, drew gooden (rookie), giricek (rookie), pat garrity, steven hunter, andrew declerq, chris whitney, etc to 7 games vs the pistons by HIMSELF! He may have thought about going to Detroit then, but now that Artest is here I know he doesnt want to go there now. The good news for us is when he is pumped and excited, hes argueably the best player in the NBA, well with this team now, hes Pumped and Excited. There is no way we even think about trading him

^^^ that about sums it all up, very eloquently too I might add. Don't get me wrong because I bash him all the time, I just know what he can do, he's just too lazy or whatever to do it. He shows flashes of stardom, then for the next 25 mins he'll pass it to the likes of rafer and scola and expect them to finish the game. I don't mind him taking 30+ shots b/c if he wanted to, he could score on probably 20+ of them. Yes, he's that good, he just wastes his chances however, and that makes me mad.

McGrady is a good player, probably still in the top 10-15 when healthy (before the shoulder injury). His is the key to our success as the Rockets winning percentage without him is 23% and that also includes games Yao has played in. I think his impact on the team is bigger then many think, he is a good player and I think next season if everything is good he will be good. He also is one of the best playoff performers in league history. Averaging somewhere around 28/6/6, something not even Jordan himself did (hehe Jordan didn't average a full 6 assist) the other players that have done as good are Jerry West, Clyde Drexler, Lebron James, and I don't remember the other 3. Anyways, I think most of you guys would agree that this was his worst season aside from this years in toronto, he still managed to get top 10 in MVP voting, while also getting voted onto the all nba team. He is actually one of the only players of his caliber to get so many top 10 MVP voting/nba teams, the other guard to do so and obviously another level higher: Kobe Bryant. Hopefully next year is his year, he can come through when he wants to obviously but he has to make the best of this trio.

He showed me all that he had to in the playoffs. He's still an amazing player, even when injured, and with the deck stacked ridiculously high against him. He proved that he has heart, and no matter how many times he gets bashed, and knocked out in the first round, he's not giving up, so I refuse to give up on him. He put up fourty in an elimination game, on the road last year, against the best home team in the league. He did this without Yao and Rafer(for most of the series, anyway) against a stacked team.

I wouldn't call him "mentally weak" either. Lesser men would have folded years ago with the criticism he's taken, but he keeps going strong.

Hm, so everyone answered what they think about TMac, mostly in light of the last several years' playoff performances, when the OP was asking:

13pts_35sec wrote:whats your opinion about mcgrady saying that he would not mind going to the pistons?

+1 to dink as far as the alternate line of question answering to the misleading title goes.

McGrady2head: I really like your post. even I kind of "dislike" T-Mac. Just one thing

He has had the worst teammates of any player i have ever seen during his career. he took a team of darrell armstrong, drew gooden (rookie), giricek (rookie), pat garrity, steven hunter, andrew declerq, chris whitney, etc to 7 games vs the pistons by HIMSELF!


Well, you could remember that one really short fella who brought his team to the finals by himself. He probably had "better" team (not that much, he had good coach, that was bigger impact) but finals and first round is... just not the same

Yeah and I would strongly disagree he's above Kobe's level. Nobody. I mean NOBODY can show what Kobe did against Toronto and Dallas. There is a lot of selfish players, but nobody capable of this performance

McGrady could have really benefited some college coaching. His talent is huge. I think it is up there with the likes of Magic Johnson. A 6'8" guy who can dribble like a point guard and see the floor. He can post up smaller defenders. In fact, I think his talent is better than Magic's especially early in his career. He could jump out the gym and score on any one. He has a high basketball I.Q. though not as high as Magic's. He just does not have the heart of Magic, the leadership skills, nor apparently the work habits. Magic would always work on his weaknesses in the offseason like his outside shooting. McGrady does not appear to do that. (ie his low free throw pct & 3 pt shooting pct)

Mcgrady has been coddled his whole life. He was raised by his mother and grandmother. He was a high school phenom, so everyone was always telling him how great he was. (high school and AAU coaches) That is all the AAU circuit does. So he decides to go pro instead of going to college, where a college coach would have really demanded more of him. If he gone to Duke, don't you think Coach K would have really coached him up to the Magic Johnson status as a pro. I do.

All that said he is still a great player, probably a hall of famer. With the addition of Artest, he could really elevate his game and stature. Even Magic needed Kareem & Worthy and a bunch of role players to win championships.