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I'm going to take over our great post-loss tradition tonight, taa daa!

Bring Yao and McGrady off the bench
Run Scola at Center
Start Landry and Battier (obviously this lineup is dependent on something, and also I'm mostly joking... but SOMETHING must be done </matchingtraditionalsarcasm>)

Fire Rick Adalmen and hire Jeff Van Gundy

McGrady needs to go.

McGrady and Yao needs a serious talk.

Adelman should tell Yao if he does get more tougher, then he will be benched.
T-Mac is freaking done guys. Sorry to say it.

No solution. THis team stinko.

T-Mac United wrote:McGrady needs to go.

Mcgrady actually flows fine with the offense hes jsut not healthy. And thats a great reccomendation when a guys injured and trying to recover u would get a lot of trade value. You should become a GM seriously.

Lets keep yao who slows down our defensive sets,,,,cant play in a run and gun stlye (which looked damn good last year with mcgrady in and him out),,,,,is far from clutch got dominated by boozer in the playoffs,,,,oh and his passing is way overated he threw some horrible passes and the offense is supposed to run threw him?? Oh also yao has a huge market draw and is way more valuable. As you can see with mcgrady injured playing horrible we dont even stand a chance. Hmm but with yao and raefor out we competed against a healthy utah team in the playoffs who put 4 different defenders on Mcgrady.

How many consistent players on this rockets team have showed up in the playoffs,,,,,battier?? raefor??? yaoo??? No the answer would be mcgrady brings it every playoff series. Yes he has health issues but he shouldnt be on the floor hes hurt.

Learning how to play basketball might help.

Mike12345 wrote:

T-Mac United wrote:McGrady needs to go.

Mcgrady actually flows fine with the offense hes jsut not healthy. And thats a great reccomendation when a guys injured and trying to recover u would get a lot of trade value. You should become a GM seriously.

Lets keep yao who slows down our defensive sets,,,,cant play in a run and gun stlye (which looked damn good last year with mcgrady in and him out),,,,,is far from clutch got dominated by boozer in the playoffs,,,,oh and his passing is way overated he threw some horrible passes and the offense is supposed to run threw him?? Oh also yao has a huge market draw and is way more valuable. As you can see with mcgrady injured playing horrible we dont even stand a chance. Hmm but with yao and raefor out we competed against a healthy utah team in the playoffs who put 4 different defenders on Mcgrady.

How many consistent players on this rockets team have showed up in the playoffs,,,,,battier?? raefor??? yaoo??? No the answer would be mcgrady brings it every playoff series. Yes he has health issues but he shouldnt be on the floor hes hurt.

T-mac won't run Ric's motion offense

Yao is declining because of Ric's high post. Sorry Yao has been a post player for 6 years, you can't teach an old dog new tricks. Yao's numbers will continue to suck in Ric's motion offense. High Post just does not work.

McGrady's hurt, whatever, there's no excuse for his performance the past two games, this was the guy coming off 56 points the previous two games combined, and now 5 points in the last two games, he's just too damn streaky and his body language and jump shot is pathetic. I'd obviously expect him to get better as the season progresses, but he with Yao's crap play is what's holding this team back.

Our problem is everything, we can't do anything right now, but the most glaring aspect is our offense, we struggle so much just to score, every team at least gets some easy buckets, but not this team, it's a struggle each time there's a score. We just blew a 16 point lead and lost by 30, how does that happen?

What I think needs to happen is someone calling out Yao and McGrady.

Sure, they're the best players. But they have absolutely no excuse for the trash they are producing right now. Yao has become a liability in every aspect imaginable. I don't know if any team would even want him knowing how limited his game is and how they'll have to accomodate the team to his speed. McGrady is giving no effort and it's obvious. Has anyone actually seen him sprint this year?

I know this is pretty much just a rant, but the only thing that needs to happen is someone to light a fire under them, or just smack them in the face for wasting our time and money.

OhMyBosh wrote:What I think needs to happen is someone calling out Yao and McGrady.

Sure, they're the best players. But they have absolutely no excuse for the trash they are producing right now. Yao has become a liability in every aspect imaginable. I don't know if any team would even want him knowing how limited his game is and how they'll have to accomodate the team to his speed. McGrady is giving no effort and it's obvious. Has anyone actually seen him sprint this year?

I know this is pretty much just a rant, but the only thing that needs to happen is someone to light a fire under them, or just smack them in the face for wasting our time and money.

Personally if the Rockets stuck with JVG with this roster, I think we would be so much more effective. JVG was giving the short stick but look at his Roster besides T-mac and Yao..... If you look back now, JVG did an awesome job with what he had.

RA is trying to mold T-mac and Yao to something they can't do.

Mike12345 wrote:

T-Mac United wrote:McGrady needs to go.

Mcgrady actually flows fine with the offense hes jsut not healthy. And thats a great reccomendation when a guys injured and trying to recover u would get a lot of trade value. You should become a GM seriously.

Lets keep yao who slows down our defensive sets,,,,cant play in a run and gun stlye (which looked damn good last year with mcgrady in and him out),,,,,is far from clutch got dominated by boozer in the playoffs,,,,oh and his passing is way overated he threw some horrible passes and the offense is supposed to run threw him?? Oh also yao has a huge market draw and is way more valuable. As you can see with mcgrady injured playing horrible we dont even stand a chance. Hmm but with yao and raefor out we competed against a healthy utah team in the playoffs who put 4 different defenders on Mcgrady.

How many consistent players on this rockets team have showed up in the playoffs,,,,,battier?? raefor??? yaoo??? No the answer would be mcgrady brings it every playoff series. Yes he has health issues but he shouldnt be on the floor hes hurt.

Blame Yao for what? For McGrady's 1-11 shooting? Blame him for the fact that he has outplayed McGrady in the past two games? Dude, stop acting like you're a no.1 McGrady fan and critique this team with an open mind. Yao is competing out on the court and you shouldn't criticize someone who's giving his 110% out there.

And one more thing. Let's talk about the season before talking about the playoffs. Thing come at you sequentially.

OhMyBosh wrote:What I think needs to happen is someone calling out Yao and McGrady.

Sure, they're the best players. But they have absolutely no excuse for the trash they are producing right now. Yao has become a liability in every aspect imaginable. I don't know if any team would even want him knowing how limited his game is and how they'll have to accomodate the team to his speed. McGrady is giving no effort and it's obvious. Has anyone actually seen him sprint this year?

I know this is pretty much just a rant, but the only thing that needs to happen is someone to light a fire under them, or just smack them in the face for wasting our time and money.

Come on how many times have u seen Mcgrady wince from pain this season. His knee is not healthy I love how half the ppl on this board are like Superman.

The guys playing injured and with the flu,,,,and u say hes giving no effort. Vince Carter gave no effort because hes a guy who will get a small injury and be out weeks. Tmac wants to play,,,,your telling me a guy who played against a tough utah team while needing 2 surgeries on his knee and shoulder has no heart or gives no effort. U guys make no sense.

The guy isnt hustling because his knee is hurt and hes not in game shape maybe because he had two surgeries this off season. Give the guy a break he shouldnt be playing which is adelmans fault. Lets see Yao carry this team for a few weeks without tmac like tmac did for months. That would never happen.

Tmacs problem is health not heart,,,,and if he does fully recover ull see what hes capable of considering he dropped 40 points against 4 different jazz defenders on the road at 70% imagine him at 100%.

Yao on the other hand might be experiencing big man decline,,,,like ilgauskas foot problems. He slows down defence and the rockets are exactlyh like cleveland when u think about it. Lebrons never had a great pointguard passer on cleveland and has ilgauskas. When ilgauskas doesnt play they go small and bring in a hustle player Varajeo (Similiar to Luis Scola).

These teams are very similiar except the rockets are better overall they jsut happen to be in the west. Im not comparing Lebron with Tmac just showing team comparisons. Its tough to be elite without a legit point guard unless you have athletic big men like Gasol or Garnett. Gasols not that athletic but can run the floor atleast,,,,,,yao cant

Mike12345 wrote:

OhMyBosh wrote:What I think needs to happen is someone calling out Yao and McGrady.

Sure, they're the best players. But they have absolutely no excuse for the trash they are producing right now. Yao has become a liability in every aspect imaginable. I don't know if any team would even want him knowing how limited his game is and how they'll have to accomodate the team to his speed. McGrady is giving no effort and it's obvious. Has anyone actually seen him sprint this year?

I know this is pretty much just a rant, but the only thing that needs to happen is someone to light a fire under them, or just smack them in the face for wasting our time and money.

Come on how many times have u seen Mcgrady wince from pain this season. His knee is not healthy I love how half the ppl on this board are like Superman.

The guys playing injured and with the flu,,,,and u say hes giving no effort. Vince Carter gave no effort because hes a guy who will get a small injury and be out weeks. Tmac wants to play,,,,your telling me a guy who played against a tough utah team while needing 2 surgeries on his knee and shoulder has no heart or gives no effort. U guys make no sense.

The guy isnt hustling because his knee is hurt and hes not in game shape maybe because he had two surgeries this off season. Give the guy a break he shouldnt be playing which is adelmans fault. Lets see Yao carry this team for a few weeks without tmac like tmac did for months. That would never happen.

Tmacs problem is health not heart,,,,and if he does fully recover ull see what hes capable of considering he dropped 40 points against 4 different jazz defenders on the road at 70% imagine him at 100%.

Yao on the other hand might be experiencing big man decline,,,,like ilgauskas foot problems. He slows down defence and the rockets are exactlyh like cleveland when u think about it. Lebrons never had a great pointguard passer on cleveland and has ilgauskas. When ilgauskas doesnt play they go small and bring in a hustle player Varajeo (Similiar to Luis Scola).

These teams are very similiar except the rockets are better overall they jsut happen to be in the west. Im not comparing Lebron with Tmac just showing team comparisons. Its tough to be elite without a legit point guard unless you have athletic big men like Gasol or Garnett. Gasols not that athletic but can run the floor atleast,,,,,,yao cant

At first i thought Yao was on the decline of injuries, but i think it has to do more with Ric motion offense.

Next time count how many Touches Yao gets in the low post and how many wasted touches he gets at the high post (the high post is clearly taking away 5-6 shots, that Yao will normally have at the low post). Can't score if you don't get the ball where you want it. High post is not the answer.

T-Mac United wrote:

Mike12345 wrote:

T-Mac United wrote:McGrady needs to go.

Mcgrady actually flows fine with the offense hes jsut not healthy. And thats a great reccomendation when a guys injured and trying to recover u would get a lot of trade value. You should become a GM seriously.

Lets keep yao who slows down our defensive sets,,,,cant play in a run and gun stlye (which looked damn good last year with mcgrady in and him out),,,,,is far from clutch got dominated by boozer in the playoffs,,,,oh and his passing is way overated he threw some horrible passes and the offense is supposed to run threw him?? Oh also yao has a huge market draw and is way more valuable. As you can see with mcgrady injured playing horrible we dont even stand a chance. Hmm but with yao and raefor out we competed against a healthy utah team in the playoffs who put 4 different defenders on Mcgrady.

How many consistent players on this rockets team have showed up in the playoffs,,,,,battier?? raefor??? yaoo??? No the answer would be mcgrady brings it every playoff series. Yes he has health issues but he shouldnt be on the floor hes hurt.

Blame Yao for what? For McGrady's 1-11 shooting? Blame him for the fact that he has outplayed McGrady in the past two games? Dude, stop acting like you're a no.1 McGrady fan and critique this team with an open mind. Yao is competing out on the court and you shouldn't criticize someone who's giving his 110% out there.

And one more thing. Let's talk about the season before talking about the playoffs. Thing come at you sequentially.

Wow what are you obsessed with two games,,,,Id like to see your effort in a game with the flu. Buddy you wouldnt even leave your freakin bed. How about having multiple surgeries and being expected to handle the ball 80% of the time.

Wow yao outplayed a guy with the flu that isnt healthy. All im saying is Mcgrady is injured,,,,your so oblivious to that,,,,like his knee HAS to be healthy because your a doctor. If you watched the last two games uve seen the guy wince in pain atleast a few times each game.

You also would have seen him draped in towels at the clippers game. Lets rip on a guy who has the flu and has pain in his knee from arthoscopic surgery,,,,,thats fair.

I only ripped on Yao because I feel his legs are deterioating because his injury was caused by complete wear and tear he just woke up one morning and we find out hes done for the year. Yao fits this offense way worse then tmac,,,,,,and got out played by freakin kendrick perkins and was horrible against the blazers.

Difference is Tmac looks completely unhealthy,,,,,Yao just looks like his gigantic frame is ready to collapse,,,,,im not knocking the guys effort but he is not a clutch player in the playoffs

smapor wrote:At first i thought Yao was on the decline of injuries, but i think it has to do more with Ric motion offense.

Next time count how many Touches Yao gets in the low post and how many wasted touches he gets at the high post (the high post is clearly taking away 5-6 shots, that Yao will normally have at the low post). Can't score if you don't get the ball where you want it. High post is not the answer.

I think/hope you're right to at least some degree.

Cue abcdef!!!

Wow what are you obsessed with two games,,,,Id like to see your effort in a game with the flu. Buddy you wouldnt even leave your freakin bed. How about having multiple surgeries and being expected to handle the ball 80% of the time.

Wow yao outplayed a guy with the flu that isnt healthy. All im saying is Mcgrady is injured,,,,your so oblivious to that,,,,like his knee HAS to be healthy because your a doctor. If you watched the last two games uve seen the guy wince in pain atleast a few times each game.

You also would have seen him draped in towels at the clippers game. Lets rip on a guy who has the flu and has pain in his knee from arthoscopic surgery,,,,,thats fair.

I only ripped on Yao because I feel his legs are deterioating because his injury was caused by complete wear and tear he just woke up one morning and we find out hes done for the year. Yao fits this offense way worse then tmac,,,,,,and got out played by freakin kendrick perkins and was horrible against the blazers.

Difference is Tmac looks completely unhealthy,,,,,Yao just looks like his gigantic frame is ready to collapse,,,,,im not knocking the guys effort but he is not a clutch player in the playoffs

You do know Yao averaged 25pts and 10 rebounds and 2 blocks in the Utah series(when he was healthy) just most folks just remember Okur giving him a tough time to get the 25pts and 10 rebounds and 2 blocks. What people forget is, our role players sucked back than.

Lets not even talk about the Dallas series, which Rockets should of Won but we knew 1 team was getting screwed by the refs.

Rocket fans are hilarious, you guys were ready to blow every player on your team including the GM for bringing in Artest and you guys lose to the 2 best teams in the NBA and you guys are calling for trades, and to bench your 2 best players? Thanks for the great laugh, Rocket fans.

smapor wrote:

Wow what are you obsessed with two games,,,,Id like to see your effort in a game with the flu. Buddy you wouldnt even leave your freakin bed. How about having multiple surgeries and being expected to handle the ball 80% of the time.

Wow yao outplayed a guy with the flu that isnt healthy. All im saying is Mcgrady is injured,,,,your so oblivious to that,,,,like his knee HAS to be healthy because your a doctor. If you watched the last two games uve seen the guy wince in pain atleast a few times each game.

You also would have seen him draped in towels at the clippers game. Lets rip on a guy who has the flu and has pain in his knee from arthoscopic surgery,,,,,thats fair.

I only ripped on Yao because I feel his legs are deterioating because his injury was caused by complete wear and tear he just woke up one morning and we find out hes done for the year. Yao fits this offense way worse then tmac,,,,,,and got out played by freakin kendrick perkins and was horrible against the blazers.

Difference is Tmac looks completely unhealthy,,,,,Yao just looks like his gigantic frame is ready to collapse,,,,,im not knocking the guys effort but he is not a clutch player in the playoffs

You do know Yao averaged 25pts and 10 rebounds and 2 blocks in the Utah series(when he was healthy) just most folks just remember Okur giving him a tough time to get the 25pts and 10 rebounds and 2 blocks. What people forget is, our role players sucked back than.

Lets not even talk about the Dallas series, which Rockets should of Won but we knew 1 team was getting screwed by the refs.

Can you get me Boozers stats cuz he burned Yao. Im not choosing sides between Yao or Tmac,,,,,im just saying why rip a guy because of his health. You completely skipped over my point and just defended Yao,,,,point is,,,,,attacking a guys chracter for having health issues while u sit in your bedroom typing on a computer is lame.

My final point is check adelmans offense with and without yao,,,,,because the rockets were pouring in a 100 points easy when Yao went out last year,,,,I personally didnt see a huge drop off of the rockets without yao a Max superstar player,,,,heck we beat the lakers on the road.

Take away Tmac and this team is absolutely horrible,,,,as we saw tonight with him non existent.

I Agree that Tracy is unhealthy. This dude looked completely unconditoned in the Lakers game. But I also agree that he has a lack of effort. He looked like he didnt want to be on the floor at all. If he can drop 40 against Utah with major shoulder & knee injuries, why cant he do the same against the CLIPPERS and the Lakers? I say he should sit and try to find himself on the bench while he's gettin outshined by Aaron Brooks and Carl Laundry.