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Post#1 » by J-Mezzy » Mon Nov 10, 2008 5:10 am

I'm not going to jump into panic mode, but it is obvious T-Mac is not well. No matter what you think of the guy, he's never had back to back games of such poor quality. I am sure he is not washed up, but either sick or injured. I do have a problem with both him and Adelman insisting to play.

If you can't contribute and put some effort, you need to sit. You are hurting your team defensively and also with those 1-16 nights. It is obvious he can't help the Rockets right now, so why play him at all? Let him rest while it is still early on the season and get healthier. I find it ridiculous that he is still playing. I blame both McGrady and the coach.

It doesn't look like he wants to be out there. Sit him, let him get better and if the issue is mental, let him revise his goals. But the way is playing, he doesn't belong on the court.

I do think he will be fine, but not if something isn't done
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Post#2 » by TMACFORMVP » Mon Nov 10, 2008 5:13 am

He needs to try...just the two games before this, he dropped 26 and 30 respectively, it's all about effort with this guy, and unfortunately he doesn't bring it every night, and it's clear his skills have diminished from when he first came to Houston.
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Post#3 » by Iggyemu » Mon Nov 10, 2008 5:14 am

He scored 30 the other night. 28 against a dominant Boston D. The only thing sick or injured is his competitive drive.
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Post#4 » by realfung » Mon Nov 10, 2008 5:32 am

What is going on with T-Mac??
He is like shooting 1-16 in two nights.
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Post#5 » by Waterade124 » Mon Nov 10, 2008 5:49 am

Yeah, T-mac just doesn't seem like his regular self. It seems to me like something is bothering him.
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Post#6 » by 40Cal » Mon Nov 10, 2008 5:54 am

I think he should come off of the bench. I also think someone needs to call him out, maybe Artest. i have never questioned T-macs heart but after this performance, I don't think he has that much left in him. Maybe he will bounce back when he is fully healthy, but that may take more than a whole season.
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Post#7 » by Baller 24 » Mon Nov 10, 2008 5:55 am

He needs to do more than just sit...needs to work on his **** attitude and give 100%...seriously he is looking like the most lazy player in the NBA as of right now.
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Post#8 » by J-Mezzy » Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:22 am

The guy who put up efforts of 28 and 30 can't all of the sudden lose interest. There's more to it, either personal problems or health, but it doesn't make sense...
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Post#9 » by dunleavyjr » Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:06 am

When you lose, you lose as a team. You can't blame on an individual. Yea, Tmac sucks. He's been playing like a 80-year old man. But Yao also needs to take the blame as well.

Yao is letting his opponents push him to where ever they want to, without resistance. Many times when he's supposed to dunk the ball, he instead does a soft layup and either it rolls off the rim or gets blocked.

The NBA awards the aggressor. Guys like Amare, D12, they go to the charity stripe 10-15 times night in and night out. Yao is too soft. He is not attacking the rim aggressively. He is like that sissy Shawn Bradley.

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Post#10 » by mpsniper101 » Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:44 am

He's playing UP and DOWN, I think it's better if he just sits out. A full healthy T-Mac will be better, at least with T-Mac out, maybe Ron and Yao can develop some chemistry.
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Post#11 » by YoungMoney23 » Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:15 am

T-Mac isn't the only problem

Rafer cant shoot to save himself
Yao has absolutely no aggression in his game
Ron has been ineffective on offense but He does deserve some credit although he could improve
Luther Head is an over discussed topic so no need to mention what his problem is
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Post#12 » by b-ballwizard » Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:34 pm

dunleavyjr wrote:When you lose, you lose as a team. You can't blame on an individual. Yea, Tmac sucks. He's been playing like a 80-year old man. But Yao also needs to take the blame as well.

Yao is letting his opponents push him to where ever they want to, without resistance. Many times when he's supposed to dunk the ball, he instead does a soft layup and either it rolls off the rim or gets blocked.

The NBA awards the aggressor. Guys like Amare, D12, they go to the charity stripe 10-15 times night in and night out. Yao is too soft. He is not attacking the rim aggressively. He is like that sissy Shawn Bradley.

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Yes. Why do you make the point that Rox lose as a team....but then go on to blame another individual?
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Post#13 » by smapor » Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:29 pm

dunleavyjr wrote:When you lose, you lose as a team. You can't blame on an individual. Yea, Tmac sucks. He's been playing like a 80-year old man. But Yao also needs to take the blame as well.

Yao is letting his opponents push him to where ever they want to, without resistance. Many times when he's supposed to dunk the ball, he instead does a soft layup and either it rolls off the rim or gets blocked.

The NBA awards the aggressor. Guys like Amare, D12, they go to the charity stripe 10-15 times night in and night out. Yao is too soft. He is not attacking the rim aggressively. He is like that sissy Shawn Bradley.

Any questions?



LOL you can't be aggressive if you are losing 5-6 touches a game, that is going to the high post. You want Yao to dribble the ball from the high post and score?

But I have to say you do lose as a team and right now, our starters are not looking good, maybe its just trying to fit in, however the Celtics Big 3 fit right in and started to dominate their games. Unlike our big 3.
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Post#14 » by ShaY » Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:30 pm

Disagree , he can't hurt his knee more by playing and if he sits it doesn't mean he will be back at full strength earlier.

Playing actually helps him build strength and confidence in his knee and T-Mac with one leg is still better than all of our wings besides Artest.

Let him play and gel with Artest and just hope he will get his explosivness and lateral movement back as soon as possible.
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Post#15 » by ShaY » Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:36 pm

smapor wrote:
dunleavyjr wrote:When you lose, you lose as a team. You can't blame on an individual. Yea, Tmac sucks. He's been playing like a 80-year old man. But Yao also needs to take the blame as well.

Yao is letting his opponents push him to where ever they want to, without resistance. Many times when he's supposed to dunk the ball, he instead does a soft layup and either it rolls off the rim or gets blocked.

The NBA awards the aggressor. Guys like Amare, D12, they go to the charity stripe 10-15 times night in and night out. Yao is too soft. He is not attacking the rim aggressively. He is like that sissy Shawn Bradley.

Any questions?



LOL you can't be aggressive if you are losing 5-6 touches a game, that is going to the high post. You want Yao to dribble the ball from the high post and score?

But I have to say you do lose as a team and right now, our starters are not looking good, maybe its just trying to fit in, however the Celtics Big 3 fit right in and started to dominate their games. Unlike our big 3.


The Celtics big 3 played all the pre season and were all of training camp together , our big 3 played just one pre season game together.

The Celtics big 3 are a lot more balanced , Ray Allen's strength is to run around screens and shoot.
Paul Pierce's strength is posting up , Keving Garnett too , but KG can put the ball on the floor and shoot from mid range.

Our big 3 their strength is posting up they still need to figure out how it's gonna work.

Not to mention we are not fully healthy yet , Mcgrady is half of his capabilitis and Battier is missing.
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Post#16 » by smapor » Mon Nov 10, 2008 3:00 pm

ShaY wrote:
smapor wrote:
dunleavyjr wrote:When you lose, you lose as a team. You can't blame on an individual. Yea, Tmac sucks. He's been playing like a 80-year old man. But Yao also needs to take the blame as well.

Yao is letting his opponents push him to where ever they want to, without resistance. Many times when he's supposed to dunk the ball, he instead does a soft layup and either it rolls off the rim or gets blocked.

The NBA awards the aggressor. Guys like Amare, D12, they go to the charity stripe 10-15 times night in and night out. Yao is too soft. He is not attacking the rim aggressively. He is like that sissy Shawn Bradley.

Any questions?



LOL you can't be aggressive if you are losing 5-6 touches a game, that is going to the high post. You want Yao to dribble the ball from the high post and score?

But I have to say you do lose as a team and right now, our starters are not looking good, maybe its just trying to fit in, however the Celtics Big 3 fit right in and started to dominate their games. Unlike our big 3.


The Celtics big 3 played all the pre season and were all of training camp together , our big 3 played just one pre season game together.

The Celtics big 3 are a lot more balanced , Ray Allen's strength is to run around screens and shoot.
Paul Pierce's strength is posting up , Keving Garnett too , but KG can put the ball on the floor and shoot from mid range.

Our big 3 their strength is posting up they still need to figure out how it's gonna work.

Not to mention we are not fully healthy yet , Mcgrady is half of his capabilitis and Battier is missing.



Like I said if T-mac is that hurt, he should sit. RA offense is not working with our Big 3 and it won't ever work, unless by some miracle "Yao can pass like Brad Miller at the high post" "T-mac moves without the ball" and "Ron artest stops taking some of the worst shot selections i seen (granted his defense is great, but he takes too many gambles on defense)

RA needs realize the motion offense will not work and it won't work with his current roster, unless he bascially plays with the 2nd unit. I don't see anything wrong with the old inside-out game with a splash of the motion offense, hell it got us a 22 win streak last year.

And Ron Artest needs to come off as the sixth man, he is taking way too many shots per game and alot of those shots are horrible choices. He needs to be limited as the 3rd option, so far he has more FG attempts than both Yao and T-mac and don't say he has too, because if RA ran set plays, the ball would go to T-mac and Yao more often.
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Post#17 » by pancakes3 » Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:54 pm

sorry but talking about benching a 2 time scoring champ, dpoy, and 20-10 guy in favor of brent barry, chuck hayes, and carl landry is panic mode. I would hope the rockets medical staff has something more to diagnose injuries than someone having off-games. If there was any serious injury, i'm sure Tracy would have spoken up about it on his own without the medical consults of this board. I still say give them a little time to mesh, for artest to learn the spacing, and for t-mac to find his jumper. We all know that Yao is soft and will never be aggressive but i'm willing to accept the 18-8 or 20-10 he's capable of putting in. If we don't start yao, the alternative is starting scola and landry and i don't think that's a better frontcourt.
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Post#18 » by CuttingEdge » Mon Nov 10, 2008 5:26 pm

Honestly we can't compete even with Battier back.. Yao's 7'6 can't get that 12 ft airborne ball for a strong putback when guys 6'10 - 7-0 can easily get it.. and T-Mac needs to be a hundred percent.. We need to get big ppl more than ever to compete in the West... It's a no brainer that we should go out and get some.. like now..
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Post#19 » by Guy986 » Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:00 pm

CuttingEdge wrote:Honestly we can't compete even with Battier back.. Yao's 7'6 can't get that 12 ft airborne ball for a strong putback when guys 6'10 - 7-0 can easily get it.. and T-Mac needs to be a hundred percent.. We need to get big ppl more than ever to compete in the West... It's a no brainer that we should go out and get some.. like now..


Tmac and Yao both need to grow some balls.
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Post#20 » by Amel » Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:32 am

the guy needs to be called out for shooting 20-30 shots a game

someone else needs to take his shots

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