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AP: T-Mac Out 3 Weeks

Posted: Tue Dec 2, 2008 7:47 pm
by TMU
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3739558

HOUSTON -- Houston Rockets guard Tracy McGrady says he'll miss three weeks to rehabilitate his sore left knee.

McGrady has missed Houston's last three games after starting the first 15. He had arthroscopic surgery in May and admitted he came back a little bit too soon.

McGrady is Houston's second-leading scorer, averaging 15.6 points this season.

McGrady visited with orthopedist James Andrews on Monday. The team said Andrews confirmed the initial medical assessment by team doctor Tom Clanton that McGrady is suffering from general soreness in the knee.


Why didn't he get a proper rehab before the season started? Again, this guy should stop playing M.D./O.D. and start listening to the real doctors.

Re: AP: T-Mac Out 3 Weeks

Posted: Tue Dec 2, 2008 7:51 pm
by Guy986
Make 20 million a year and you can take vacation whenever you want. Gotta love Tmac

Re: AP: T-Mac Out 3 Weeks

Posted: Tue Dec 2, 2008 7:54 pm
by BaYBaller
He has been listening to doctors. Both team doctors and the doctor he visited Monday said to strengthen his knee he should play through it. Instead he decides to take time off. All I have to say is that T-Mac better still be working hard on his rehab and do what he can in practice. This team has gone through enough transition already.

Re: AP: T-Mac Out 3 Weeks

Posted: Tue Dec 2, 2008 8:01 pm
by TMU
BaYBaller wrote:He has been listening to doctors. Both team doctors and the doctor he visited Monday said to strengthen his knee he should play through it. Instead he decides to take time off. All I have to say is that T-Mac better still be working hard on his rehab and do what he can in practice. This team has gone through enough transition already.


It was Dr. McGrady himself who decided to take 2 games off before meeting Dr. James Andrews on Monday. Had he realized that the team needs him to win ball games, he would have visited Andrews before making his own decision to sit out. Had he visited Andrews earlier, he would be returning a week earlier and save two games down the stretch. It's all about timing here.

He's already made 2 poor decision with the medical staff.

Re: AP: T-Mac Out 3 Weeks

Posted: Tue Dec 2, 2008 8:10 pm
by CJballa14
Better now, then in April or May...

We shouldn't bash the guy for coming back too soon. He just wasn't ready yet, but he tried. Let's let him rest and get healthy then see what happens.

Re: AP: T-Mac Out 3 Weeks

Posted: Tue Dec 2, 2008 8:10 pm
by RazorJordan32
Im Ok with him being out for three weeks.

let him rest till hes a 100% and when he is lets see how he fits in the team and if he still sucks after months of chemistry and being 100%, then we have a problem with him..

Also whenever there is a smaller pg like chris paul or idk any 6 footer we should get rafer's ass out of there and put brooks in.

Im really feelin brooks hes playing amazing IMO

also I love T-mac i would hate for him to leave this team but i REALLY Want a championship so idk what our team does.

I would perfer Joe Johnson, but make him shoot a little less.

Josh smizzle would be tight

Re: AP: T-Mac Out 3 Weeks

Posted: Tue Dec 2, 2008 8:11 pm
by ShaY
I don't understand why people hate on T-Mac so much for this , even if he plays on a weak knee and it gets better by playing I don't him to do it.

He is verylimited out there , and T-Mac playing on a weak knee limping up and down the court is just a question of when another injury will happen not if.

He can't play up to half of his abilities so he should sit out.

I hope he comes back 100% because if not our season is over.

Re: AP: T-Mac Out 3 Weeks

Posted: Tue Dec 2, 2008 8:22 pm
by RazorJordan32
Also let our team get used to each other till allstar break then well start yelling at the team if they start to suck.

My prediction

after all-star break

Rafer 15 ppg, 4.5 rb, 6 assists, 1.5 steals, 44% FG, 39% 3PT
T-Mac- 25 ppg, 7 rb, 6.5 assists, 1.0 steals, 42% FG 42% 3PT
Ron Artest- 20 ppg, 5 rb, 4 assists, 2.5 steals 1 blk 40% FG 37% 3PT
Scola 10 points and rebounds and a block
Yao 18 ppg and 12 rb with 2 blocks
Carl Landry 9 ppg and 8 rb

I know some may say this is way off, i wouldnt
with good chemistry the celtics will wipe our ass in the finals

Re: AP: T-Mac Out 3 Weeks

Posted: Tue Dec 2, 2008 8:23 pm
by TMU
ShaY wrote:I don't understand why people hate on T-Mac so much for this , even if he plays on a weak knee and it gets better by playing I don't him to do it.

He is verylimited out there , and T-Mac playing on a weak knee limping up and down the court is just a question of when another injury will happen not if.

He can't play up to half of his abilities so he should sit out.

I hope he comes back 100% because if not our season is over.


Dude, you just don't understand what this topic is about. Read my post again. It's not about his injuries anymore. We get the point; he's always hurt. The purpose of this topic is that he didn't undergo a well-constructed rehab and continues to make poor decisions in regard to his health matter. His initial decision to hand-waive around this matter needs to be scrutinized and we should question what's in his head.

Ok, the negativity ends here... I'll stop.

Re: AP: T-Mac Out 3 Weeks

Posted: Tue Dec 2, 2008 8:40 pm
by MaxRider
Arenas is still sitting

Re: AP: T-Mac Out 3 Weeks

Posted: Tue Dec 2, 2008 8:41 pm
by ShaY
T-Mac United wrote:
ShaY wrote:I don't understand why people hate on T-Mac so much for this , even if he plays on a weak knee and it gets better by playing I don't him to do it.

He is verylimited out there , and T-Mac playing on a weak knee limping up and down the court is just a question of when another injury will happen not if.

He can't play up to half of his abilities so he should sit out.

I hope he comes back 100% because if not our season is over.


Dude, you just don't understand what this topic is about. Read my post again. It's not about his injuries anymore. We get the point; he's always hurt. The purpose of this topic is that he didn't undergo a well-constructed rehab and continues to make poor decisions in regard to his health matter. His initial decision to hand-waive around this matter needs to be scrutinized and we should question what's in his head.

Ok, the negativity ends here... I'll stop.


No one knows how well or how bad he wroked in his rehabiltation , I didn't see one quote or anything that someone said or complained that T-Mac didn't rehab hard enough so you can't just assumed that because he recoverd slow.

It could be that just his body type recoveres slow , or that the doctors made a too optimstic predicition about his return.

What I am saying is that we can't know how T-Mac did his reahb so it's stupid imo to be mad about that because we don't know and T-Mac has never been lazy when it comes to practices and such in his time with the Rockets.

Re: AP: T-Mac Out 3 Weeks

Posted: Tue Dec 2, 2008 8:41 pm
by Guy986
razorjordan32 wrote:Also let our team get used to each other till allstar break then well start yelling at the team if they start to suck.

My prediction

after all-star break

Rafer 15 ppg, 4.5 rb, 6 assists, 1.5 steals, 44% FG, 39% 3PT
T-Mac- 25 ppg, 7 rb, 6.5 assists, 1.0 steals, 42% FG 42% 3PT
Ron Artest- 20 ppg, 5 rb, 4 assists, 2.5 steals 1 blk 40% FG 37% 3PT
Scola 10 points and rebounds and a block
Yao 18 ppg and 12 rb with 2 blocks
Carl Landry 9 ppg and 8 rb

I know some may say this is way off, i wouldnt
with good chemistry the celtics will wipe our ass in the finals


:roll:
The only one i see getting close to ur prediction is Scola. Everyone else is waaaay off.
Especially Alston...

Re: AP: T-Mac Out 3 Weeks

Posted: Tue Dec 2, 2008 8:46 pm
by Guy986
ShaY wrote:
T-Mac United wrote:
ShaY wrote:I don't understand why people hate on T-Mac so much for this , even if he plays on a weak knee and it gets better by playing I don't him to do it.

He is verylimited out there , and T-Mac playing on a weak knee limping up and down the court is just a question of when another injury will happen not if.

He can't play up to half of his abilities so he should sit out.

I hope he comes back 100% because if not our season is over.


Dude, you just don't understand what this topic is about. Read my post again. It's not about his injuries anymore. We get the point; he's always hurt. The purpose of this topic is that he didn't undergo a well-constructed rehab and continues to make poor decisions in regard to his health matter. His initial decision to hand-waive around this matter needs to be scrutinized and we should question what's in his head.

Ok, the negativity ends here... I'll stop.


No one knows how well or how bad he wroked in his rehabiltation , I didn't see one quote or anything that someone said or complained that T-Mac didn't rehab hard enough so you can't just assumed that because he recoverd slow.

It could be that just his body type recoveres slow , or that the doctors made a too optimstic predicition about his return.

What I am saying is that we can't know how T-Mac did his reahb so it's stupid imo to be mad about that because we don't know and T-Mac has never been lazy when it comes to practices and such in his time with the Rockets.


Or maybe you're just making excuses.... Tmac is the guard version of Shaq, he likes to rehab during "company time".

Other than his first year with the Rockets, i dont recall him ever coming to camp in shape. Those Fat Mac jokes are usually uttered during preseasons. Tmac likes to work himself into shape, its not a secret anymore.

Re: AP: T-Mac Out 3 Weeks

Posted: Tue Dec 2, 2008 8:50 pm
by mpsniper101
Oh well, I mean what does he bring except jacked up 3 pointers to the club anyways. Rafer can do the same thing in crunch time as Mac.. We don't need him.

Re: AP: T-Mac Out 3 Weeks

Posted: Tue Dec 2, 2008 8:53 pm
by ShaY
Guy986 wrote:Or maybe you're just making excuses.... Tmac is the guard version of Shaq, he likes to rehab during "company time".

Other than his first year with the Rockets, i dont recall him ever coming to camp in shape. Those Fat Mac jokes are usually uttered during preseasons. Tmac likes to work himself into shape, its not a secret anymore.


Disagree , last year he was in great great shape to open the season until the injuries started he was playing like a MVP.

In 05/06 he was also in great shape , he looked as good as he ever looked in pre season but the back problems killed him.

Don't kill me people because I disagree with most of yall' lol

Re: AP: T-Mac Out 3 Weeks

Posted: Tue Dec 2, 2008 9:09 pm
by Lebo13
I suppose its for the best....as long as he comes back ready and able to play!? If he comes back and is just hobbling around again it would be frustrating but i assume he is gonna strengthen his knee while out, he should be working hard to get it back.....if only he worked like Yao does when he is injured.....

Looks like we'll have to start both Battier and Artest for the time being, it would've been nice to see Ron off ther bench though.......ah well will have to wait a couple weeks for that unless Adelman gets some mad ideas of starting Head and Battier in the wing positions, which i cant see happening!

Re: AP: T-Mac Out 3 Weeks

Posted: Tue Dec 2, 2008 9:23 pm
by smapor
I would laugh my ass off, if the this scenerio happens.

T-mac after 3 weeks, plays 2-3 weeks, knee doesn't get better, opts for some sort of surgey (out for the season).

Rockets squeeze into the playoffs and get out of the 1st round with out T-mac. I would seriously laugh my ass off but at the same time, shake my head that T-mac is cursed.

Or the other scenerio, bothT-mac and Yao are out and the Rockets win a championship with Rafer being MVP in the finals. lol

Re: AP: T-Mac Out 3 Weeks

Posted: Tue Dec 2, 2008 9:29 pm
by Mike12345
ShaY wrote:
T-Mac United wrote:
ShaY wrote:I don't understand why people hate on T-Mac so much for this , even if he plays on a weak knee and it gets better by playing I don't him to do it.

He is verylimited out there , and T-Mac playing on a weak knee limping up and down the court is just a question of when another injury will happen not if.

He can't play up to half of his abilities so he should sit out.

I hope he comes back 100% because if not our season is over.


Dude, you just don't understand what this topic is about. Read my post again. It's not about his injuries anymore. We get the point; he's always hurt. The purpose of this topic is that he didn't undergo a well-constructed rehab and continues to make poor decisions in regard to his health matter. His initial decision to hand-waive around this matter needs to be scrutinized and we should question what's in his head.

Ok, the negativity ends here... I'll stop.


No one knows how well or how bad he wroked in his rehabiltation , I didn't see one quote or anything that someone said or complained that T-Mac didn't rehab hard enough so you can't just assumed that because he recoverd slow.

It could be that just his body type recoveres slow , or that the doctors made a too optimstic predicition about his return.

What I am saying is that we can't know how T-Mac did his reahb so it's stupid imo to be mad about that because we don't know and T-Mac has never been lazy when it comes to practices and such in his time with the Rockets.


Exactly this guy is just biased,,,,he expects him to recover after a certain amount of time because he obviously knows how tmacs body recovers after surgery. He also was there every step that tmac took to rehab his knee and disagrees with how he went about it lol. You think tmac had no motivation to get back to the court assuming hed be playing with a healthy yao and a newly acquired artest??? He clearly wanted to get back as soon as possible and rushed into it.

Aside from that i dont get how ppl are saying the doctors at the beggining of the season told him to play through the pain to strengthen his knee and tmacs dumb for sitting out.

If the doctors were right,,,,,,playing through the pain at the beggining would be the hardest part getting back into game shape and strengthening the knee. So how come 15 games into the season hes in more pain and his knee is worse then when he started???? Clearly the doctors reccomendations werent correct because his knee has not strengthened playing it has actually gotten worse.

Re: AP: T-Mac Out 3 Weeks

Posted: Tue Dec 2, 2008 9:38 pm
by tha_rock220
This dance is getting old. If this season follows the previous trend from the previous two McGrady will get back and play like garbage, the Rockets will find their groove, then Yao will miss an extended stretch, McGrady will cry about how much it hurts to be a failure(while making $20 mill a year) then spend the entire offseason on vacation, Yao will run off to China to play in several unimportant tournaments for the CNT, the Rockets will make some offseason move the leaves us all excited, and we'll go into the next season claiming their contenders.

We have to talent .

Re: AP: T-Mac Out 3 Weeks

Posted: Tue Dec 2, 2008 9:46 pm
by CuttingEdge
An injured hobbling T-Mac can sit it out because Battier's defense and on court prowess more than make up for a missing T-Mac if you examine the Spurs game. I think have Mac healthy would be great but having Battier back is more vital at this point of the season. When will Battier be ready to go. With him clicking it gives Ron and Yao a break on defense and allows them to flow better on offense.