With Tmac I'm done too...

tmac4real · Post #1 » by **tmac4real** » Sat Jan 3, 2009 10:47 pm

After collectively slapping all of his fans' faces in the Raptors game, Tracy Mcgrady quit on yet another team.

My love of basketball started with following him in Orlando, and it is now done and buried with him rotting in Houston.

I started watching basketball casually flicking the channels in my new home in America to find something to cool to watch. I came across a black man in a blue uniform hitting a ridiculous fadeaway jumpshot. He followed it with a acrobatic reverse layup with 3 other tall black men wearing a different color jersey than him surrounding him.

I was awestruck. I had heard about this Michael Jordan in m hometown, one of the few basketball players I heard of, but this guy certainly seemed quite good himself.

He had the swagger, the attitude of a champion, with the skill and athletic prowess to back it up. He gave me something to do 3-4 nights a week to look forward to in a place where I knew no one and nothing.

I was never interested in sports before watching him, nor did I ever play it. He inspired me to get athletic, to take up the game of basketball. I researched the game, practiced it for hours, joined this site, argued with other people about how good he was and about how he just needed a CHANCE. Tyronn Lue and Juwan Howard don't constitute a championship roster.

The man needed help, the GM was at fault, his teammates sucked, bad luck, rarely ever Tracy McGrady's fault. Little did I know that my first game of Tracy McGrady which occured in the 02-03 season that I watched, would be his best game or rather best season before everything went south.

I thank you Tracy McGrady for the memories, for getting me interested and introducing me to this great game. For the entertainment you provided, for when you tried, single-handledly choking out much talented teams at the throat, giving you're fans glimpses of his airness himself.

I thank you Tracy McGrady, but as you quit the game last night against Toronto, so did I.

jove9 · Post #2 » by **jove9** » Sat Jan 3, 2009 10:55 pm

Send that letter to the Chronicle and the Rockets website.

Don't let your words go to waste here.

Post #3 » by **TMACFORMVP** » Sat Jan 3, 2009 11:13 pm

Same way man, I got into basketball pretty recently, actually when McGrady first became a Rocket. He was the one that got me into basketball, I always had liked the sport, but never to the extent I do today. In my mind he did no wrong, he was my favorite player in the league, destined for greatness, the 13 points in 33 seconds, the game winner against Dallas, the dunk on Bradley, the court vision, the all around game, there was nothing to bash about him.

Then as my love for basketball became an addiction, I didn't miss a Rockets game, hell I didn't miss any nationalized TV game of any team, I went hunting to find old games of all the greats to have ever played the game, Wilt, Jordan, Russell, Magic, Bird, West, Oscar, Hakeem and countless more. But as your knowledge of the game grows, the more you realize the flaws of the game, I in the process learned more about McGrady and became more a realist in the game. T-Mac wasn't the same player he was in Orlando these past two years, but he was still damn good, he led us to the playoffs the past two years but failed to get over the hump.

And finally when it seems he has a legit chance at getting over that hump with the addition of Artest, a healthy Yao and an overall more deeper team, it was time for McGrady to take control. There's time....whatever, but when it looked blatantly obvious McGrady quit on the team yesterday, it seemed everything I had wished for or everything I had loved, the memories from previous seasons went down the drain. And everyone realized it's not his ability that's been able to take him over the hump, it's his mentality, which rubs off the whole team.

I'm still hoping he can turn it around, and the team can accomplish what it has set out to do since they acquired McGrady, but as little hope I had yesterday, that hope disappeared last night. Only thing that can happen now is that he proves not only me, not only you, not only everyone else in the media, but to his teammates and himself wrong. Or he can continue to be a loser, and be the person everyone feared/fears he'll end up becoming.

Baller 24 · Post #4 » by **Baller 24** » Sat Jan 3, 2009 11:17 pm

Deep thoughts 4real. I'm pretty much the same, regardless of the Rockets being my favorite team forever, McGrady's been my favorite player since '00. And its tough, I really don't know if its worth wasting my time, sitting in front of a TV and spending 3 hours watching a stupid game in which doesn't even matter in my life. Since '06 I've been on this site, and yet its fun talking about the topic if Basketball; it really isn't worth it if your favorite player provides 0 effort, intensity, and heart. Tracy McGrady is a better player than Vince Carter, much much better---but they do have one thing in common, and thats the desire to quit, lose effort, and show 0 heart. Both are freaks of natures in this league, but thats what separates these clowns from LeBron, Kobe, and Wade. If McGrady wants it bad enough you want it bad enough, you do whatever it takes to get to that level, no matter what obstacle is in the way. Guys like Artest and Yao haven't been having their best season, but at least their effort isn't questioned.

T-Wack · Post #5 » by **T-Wack** » Sat Jan 3, 2009 11:59 pm

The hypocrisy in this thread makes me laugh. He "quit" last night, so now you're you're going to quit on him? Wouldn't that make you no better than he is?

I've heard this same garbage every season that he's been here (especially after the back problems) and every season I've kept my faith, and he has yet to let me down with his performance. These bums can have all the "heart" that they want in the regular season, but there's only one guy who's performed when playoff time comes around, and that's McGrady. And I'll add that I'm in the same boat as most here in the sense that T-Mac in Houston is when I first really got into basketball. The difference between us is the fact that I'm not going to let one down season shatter my faith in him, especially when it's a season that he's had his first serious surgery. How quickly people forget that he's always playing hurt, but has never dealt with rehabbing from a surgery. No, I'm not going to jump the gun. I'll reserve judgment until the playoffs, and be there to say "I told you so" when he's the only one to show up.

franchise73 · Post #6 » by **franchise73** » Sun Jan 4, 2009 12:02 am

im guessing your not black lol

HTown_TMac · Post #7 » by **HTown_TMac** » Sun Jan 4, 2009 12:04 am

T-Wack wrote:The hypocrisy in this thread makes me laugh. He "quit" last night, so now you're you're going to quit on him? Wouldn't that make you no better than he is?

I've heard this same garbage every season that he's been here (especially after the back problems) and every season I've kept my faith, and he has yet to let me down with his performance. These bums can have all the "heart" that they want in the regular season, but there's only one guy who's performed when playoff time comes around, and that's McGrady. And I'll add that I'm in the same boat as most here in the sense that T-Mac in Houston is when I first really got into basketball. The difference between us is the fact that I'm not going to let one down season shatter my faith in him, especially when it's a season that he's had his first serious surgery. How quickly people forget that he's always playing hurt, but has never dealt with rehabbing from a surgery. No, I'm not going to jump the gun. I'll reserve judgment until the playoffs, and be there to say "I told you so" when he's the only one to show up.

Playoffs? We have to MAKE them for him to perform in them... Also I never quit on Tracy, it just gets annoying

Samuel · Post #8 » by **Samuel** » Sun Jan 4, 2009 12:06 am

Baller 24 wrote:Deep thoughts 4real. I'm pretty much the same, regardless of the Rockets being my favorite team forever, McGrady's been my favorite player since '00. And its tough, I really don't know if its worth wasting my time, sitting in front of a TV and spending 3 hours watching a stupid game in which doesn't even matter in my life. Since '06 I've been on this site, and yet its fun talking about the topic if Basketball; it really isn't worth it if your favorite player provides 0 effort, intensity, and heart. Tracy McGrady is a better player than Vince Carter, much much better---but they do have one thing in common, and thats the desire to quit, lose effort, and show 0 heart. Both are freaks of natures in this league, but thats what separates these clowns from LeBron, Kobe, and Wade. If McGrady wants it bad enough you want it bad enough, you do whatever it takes to get to that level, no matter what obstacle is in the way. Guys like Artest and Yao haven't been having their best season, but at least their effort isn't questioned.

That's almost sig worthy.Lol,Tmac is basically just starter on a team right now.carter is averaging 23 points on efficient shooting,even at almost 32.Kinna sad that a 32 year old with the desire to quit, lose effort, and show 0 heart. is better than T-mac at 29.

HTown_TMac · Post #9 » by **HTown_TMac** » Sun Jan 4, 2009 12:07 am

franchise73 wrote:im guessing your not black lol

McGrady2Head · Post #10 » by **McGrady2Head** » Sun Jan 4, 2009 2:14 am

its sad when we as fans are more pumped about sitting in front of the tv and WATCHING the game than t-mac is about PLAYING the game

tmac4real · Post #11 » by **tmac4real** » Sun Jan 4, 2009 3:13 am

Hypocracy? Please.

If someone keeps on disappointing you sometimes not trying you're going to stick wtih him because you don't want to be called a hypocrat?

Please, that's like just because abusive boyfriend fails a girl and keeps on beating her she shouldn't leave him because that would be failing her.

That logic has no sense at all.

He's worst than Marbury + Francis + anyone else who's heart/work ethic/selflessness has been questioned.

T-Wack · Post #12 » by **T-Wack** » Sun Jan 4, 2009 3:17 am

You're a hypocrite, not a hypocrat. Stop trying to sugarcoat it.

Baller 24 · Post #13 » by **Baller 24** » Sun Jan 4, 2009 3:19 am

Samuel wrote: That's almost sig worthy.Lol,Tmac is basically just starter on a team right now.carter is averaging 23 points on efficient shooting,even at almost 32.Kinna sad that a 32 year old with the desire to quit, lose effort, and show 0 heart. is better than T-mac at 29.

I'm saying career wise from an objective point of view...but both have 1 thing in common lack of effort, heart, and desire to quit--its been proven in the past for both, nothing knew unless you're a subjective sports fan.

This is ridiculous by the way, tonight's game was just bad, and everyone was showing their displease towards T-Mac. Its just going to get worse, can't wait to see what the writers have come up with this time around.

tmac4real · Post #14 » by **tmac4real** » Sun Jan 4, 2009 3:26 am

T-Wack wrote:You're a hypocrite, not a hypocrat. Stop trying to sugarcoat it.

You're a moron, stop trying to sugarcoat that. You're definition of hypocrite is lulzworthy.

T-Wack · Post #15 » by **T-Wack** » Sun Jan 4, 2009 3:30 am

You're a disloyal traitor. He's been injured all year, and has even put up some pretty good numbers in stretches, but because things haven't gone the way you wanted, you gave up on him. The man got you into basketball. You have no loyalty, and you're a disgrace as a fan. It's a simple opinion. Just deal with it.

TiMacMania · Post #16 » by **TiMacMania** » Sun Jan 4, 2009 3:32 am

T-Wack wrote:You're a disloyal traitor. He's been injured all year, and has even put up some pretty good numbers in stretches, but because things haven't gone the way you wanted, you gave up on him. The man got you into basketball. You have no loyalty, and you're a disgrace as a fan. It's a simple opinion. Just deal with it.

dude i love

thank you

i feel im not alone

Baller 24 · Post #17 » by **Baller 24** » Sun Jan 4, 2009 3:39 am

T-Wack wrote:You're a disloyal traitor. He's been injured all year, and has even put up some pretty good numbers in stretches, but because things haven't gone the way you wanted, you gave up on him. The man got you into basketball. You have no loyalty, and you're a disgrace as a fan. It's a simple opinion. Just deal with it.

Hes not a traitor, but McGrady might be a betrayer, when you go on the court and play with no effort, what does that say about "you" as a player? On top of that, when his effort is questioned what happens? He asks for more touches, even if he gets more touches he passes the ball, or he just stands there. Last night he wasn't even running with the offense some plays, and he was standing at the half court line---he gave up, and its not our job as fans to continue and praise his abilities as a player (favorite player or not).

tmac4real · Post #18 » by **tmac4real** » Sun Jan 4, 2009 3:40 am

T-Wack wrote:You're a disloyal traitor. He's been injured all year, and has even put up some pretty good numbers in stretches, but because things haven't gone the way you wanted, you gave up on him. The man got you into basketball. You have no loyalty, and you're a disgrace as a fan. It's a simple opinion. Just deal with it.

lol wow.

ShaY · Post #19 » by **ShaY** » Sun Jan 4, 2009 3:40 am

Timacmania and T-Wack you guys have to understand something.

I don't think T-Mac is done at all and I am sure he will bounce back too but he deserves the criticism that he is getting right now.

He doesn't deserve imo for his fans to say that he is done but he deserves a lot of criticism for not playing with full effort all the time.

But if someone thinks he is done it's their right to think taht he is done , me and both of you don't think he is done but we have to admit he deserves a lot of criticism for his lack of effort lately.

fisterkev · Post #20 » by **fisterkev** » Sun Jan 4, 2009 3:42 am

Why should the fans stay motivated when TMac clearly is not? This team isn't going anywhere - playoffs included - until he gets his head out of his a*s and decides he wants to play again.

His injuries aren't what's holding him back now, it's his attitude, and it's pathetic for a grown man making multiple millions a year. Don't expect the fans to remain loyal when he isn't.

And anyway, my loyalty is to the team, not TMac. And right now, he is killing this team.