Houston/Portland Trade?

SabasRevenge! · Post #1 » by **SabasRevenge!** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:10 pm

Based upon recent media reports that I'm sure you've all read and what seems to be a near consensus from fans, it seems like McGrady could possibly be moved.

Over on the Portland board, there is a thread about a trade that would bring McGrady to Portland. It has been met with a mixed response. The idea of bringing McGrady to Portland and playing him under 30mpg is an interesting one.

McGrady's value doesn't seem to be very high right now, especially with his injuries, underwhelming stats, and contract.

Travis Outlaw and Raef Lafrentz' expiring contract are enough to match McGrady's salary. What do you think of the idea?

The trade on the Blazers board, originally written by Sam Smith, suggested that Hinrich might come back to Houston in a 3-way trade.

A Houston lineup of
Hinrich
Battier
Artest
Scola/Landry
Yao

looks pretty good to me and defensively scary.

2011Champs · Post #2 » by **2011Champs** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:24 pm

What about straight up Jason Kidd for T-Mac ? Any interest ?

moofs · Post #3 » by **moofs** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:32 pm

I WANNA TRADE MCGRADY FOR SPANOULIS, SHAWN LIVINGSTON, RANDY LIVINGSTON, AND KWAME BROWN. STRAIGHT UP. WE GET CAP RELIFS CAND A BACKUP CENTER AND A DEPTH AT SG WITH THE PG BACKUP WE ALWAYS NEEDED FOR DAMN RAFER ALSTON ABND SHAWN LIVINGSTON DOSENT GET INJURED UNLIKE T-BABY AHHAHAHAHAA

(hell no.)

p.s. I only sell stocks when they've lost 80% or more of their value!!!

T-Wack · Post #4 » by **T-Wack** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:33 pm

That trade is unbelievably stupid. Please don't ever post here again.

Post #5 » by **TMU** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:36 pm

You're posting on a Rockets board. I suggest you consider our POV before you post.

IBTL

BaYBaller · Post #6 » by **BaYBaller** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:55 pm

Well think about it logically for a second. An expiring holds virtually no value to us because next year's FA class is not very good and T-Mac's contract is expiring the following year anyway. So you're basically asking if we want to trade T-Mac, who when healthy would start on any team in the NBA, for a bench player from POR. You might as well propose the same trade to GS fans in regards to Monta Ellis.

If T-Mac does get traded it'll be next year not this year, and it'd probably involve some draft picks.

edit: so apparently this derived from a Sam Smith article (lol) and that HOU would get Hinrich and Gooden. That's actually pretty reasonable (though I haven't looked at it from a contract perspective yet) but still I find it highly unlikely anything is going to happen.

Post #7 » by **TMACFORMVP** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:02 pm

sabas, it isn't bad, considering his value at the time, but I think at this point in time trading McGrady is too unrealistic, no matter what the false conflicting reports may be. We're losing, McGrady is hurt, being **** when he does play and it's easy to fabricate information and over-blow it to a situation that grabs headlines, but expirings really do us no good considering McGrady expires before the big 2010 class anyway.

And we won't get equal value back, McGrady looks HORRIBLE this season, and truly the most OLDEST 29 year old in the league, but his potential (key word: potential, like every season, that words gets associated with this team) has a chance to take us over the top when we're healthy. If we trade McGrady for essentially expirings that wont do anything to help us right now, then even with McGrady playing so poorly, our chances go from most likely, pretender/possible contender to a fringe playoff team. Trading McGrady would likely symbolize rebuilding or taking a step back, and considering we still have Artest for at least this season, I'd think the FO would wait and see how the season ends rather than jumping to conclusions early in the season.

And Sam Smith is kinda a moron, he's literally made T-Mac to "Bulls, Blazers, Knicks, Heat, insert team" rumors ever since his 2nd year in Houston. He seems to have some sort of infatuation either with McGrady, or infatuation that he'll be traded. Like he literally does this every season.

you know I got the respect for you sabas, but I think trading McGrady at this point is too unrealistic and not the best option for the franchise, no matter how fans, including myself may be disgruntled. Have to stay the course, at least for this season.

jove9 · Post #8 » by **jove9** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:59 pm

moofs wrote:I WANNA TRADE MCGRADY FOR SPANOULIS, SHAWN LIVINGSTON, RANDY LIVINGSTON, AND KWAME BROWN. STRAIGHT UP. WE GET CAP RELIFS CAND A BACKUP CENTER AND A DEPTH AT SG WITH THE PG BACKUP WE ALWAYS NEEDED FOR DAMN RAFER ALSTON ABND SHAWN LIVINGSTON DOSENT GET INJURED UNLIKE T-BABY AHHAHAHAHAA

(hell no.)

p.s. I only sell stocks when they've lost 80% or more of their value!!!

No way! T-Mac for Szczerbiak and Pavlovic is such a better deal!

:wink:

HTown_TMac · Post #9 » by **HTown_TMac** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:04 am

jove9 wrote:
moofs wrote:I WANNA TRADE MCGRADY FOR SPANOULIS, SHAWN LIVINGSTON, RANDY LIVINGSTON, AND KWAME BROWN. STRAIGHT UP. WE GET CAP RELIFS CAND A BACKUP CENTER AND A DEPTH AT SG WITH THE PG BACKUP WE ALWAYS NEEDED FOR DAMN RAFER ALSTON ABND SHAWN LIVINGSTON DOSENT GET INJURED UNLIKE T-BABY AHHAHAHAHAA

(hell no.)

p.s. I only sell stocks when they've lost 80% or more of their value!!!

No way! T-Mac for Szczerbiak and Pavlovic is such a better deal!

V-SPAN SHOOTS 1000%

jove9 · Post #10 » by **jove9** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:13 am

Where's Lakers4Life?

He could give us an up-to-date statistical analysis of V-Span's shooting.

The only way I trade for V-Span is if we can get Fotsis as well. Man, he's better than Scola AND KG put together.

SabasRevenge! · Post #11 » by **SabasRevenge!** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:24 am

Well, the rumor surprised me and it certainly doesn't help that it was from Sam Smith. Before reading it I would have assumed that the deal was unrealistic, but it's been good hearing that confirmed by Rockets fans. I didn't know if most of y'all just wanted him gone or if you think he'll get his game right.

Thanks to those of you who offered insightful and friendly responses.

YoungMoney23 · Post #12 » by **YoungMoney23** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:43 am

Add Brandon Roy then we talk

Amel · Post #13 » by **Amel** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:46 am

Aldridge for McGrady straight up

Celts09 · Post #14 » by **Celts09** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:13 am

when i read the artice i was thinking of u guys trading McGrady to New york and get Harington and Richardson.

HTown_TMac · Post #15 » by **HTown_TMac** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:17 am

No need for Harrington at all, and Richardson is just a shooter, but I dont think he is very good

Celts09 · Post #16 » by **Celts09** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:19 am

o well.

sry

moofs · Post #17 » by **moofs** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:03 am

SabasRevenge! wrote:Well, the rumor surprised me and it certainly doesn't help that it was from Sam Smith. Before reading it I would have assumed that the deal was unrealistic, but it's been good hearing that confirmed by Rockets fans. I didn't know if most of y'all just wanted him gone or if you think he'll get his game right.

Thanks to those of you who offered insightful and friendly responses.

As that's obviously directed to me and a few others, please note that we've had people coming in here daily/hourly with very silly trades, which layer on top of all the recurring biannual multimonth fan disgruntlement period that's occurred in the first half of every season and right after our playoff exits every year for the past 3.5 years (and occasionally at the trade deadline, too). It gets frustrating, and with trades that are silly, whether you knew it, intended it to be, heard it from another source, or whatever, the faster and harder they're dismissed, the more manageable the silliness is. Wasn't trying to be abrupt to you specifically, but it really is a bad trade.

red96 · Post #18 » by **red96** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:01 pm

BLKMN22 wrote:What about straight up Jason Kidd for T-Mac ? Any interest ?

How about a HEELLLZZZ TO THE NIZZZAAWW.

BaYBaller · Post #19 » by **BaYBaller** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:16 pm

red96 wrote:
BLKMN22 wrote:What about straight up Jason Kidd for T-Mac ? Any interest ?

How about a HEELLLZZZ TO THE NIZZZAAWW.

What DAL needs isn't T-Mac, it's a time machine to undo the Devin Harris trade.

moofs · Post #20 » by **moofs** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:29 pm

BaYBaller wrote:
red96 wrote:
BLKMN22 wrote:What about straight up Jason Kidd for T-Mac ? Any interest ?

How about a HEELLLZZZ TO THE NIZZZAAWW.

What DAL needs isn't T-Mac, it's a time machine to undo the Devin Harris trade.

You mean the Diop signing. The Harris trade, for cap purposes, didn't work that badly. He's not producing nearly as well as he did to start the season. Neither is Kidd, but he's doing ok. The Stackhouse incident really seems to have screwed up the intended plan there. (salary dump with minimal talent loss due to non-contending status)