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Brooks is the new Luther Head

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:17 am
by jzmagik
He's too streaky for my tastes, been in a horrible shooting slump. His penetration often results in missed layups, turnovers, or nothing happening at all where you just reset the play only now you have 8 seconds on the shot clock to make something happen from scratch. His dribbling isn't even that great for a point guard, but he can get away with it with his pure speed, but again good point guards defend him well on that. A few more games like this, he's now the official luther head, and luther head is the new david wesley.

Re: Brooks is the new Luther Head

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:27 am
by HTown_TMac
jzmagik wrote:He's too streaky for my tastes, been in a horrible shooting slump. His penetration often results in missed layups, turnovers, or nothing happening at all where you just reset the play only now you have 8 seconds on the shot clock to make something happen from scratch. His dribbling isn't even that great for a point guard, but he can get away with it with his pure speed, but again good point guards defend him well on that. A few more games like this, he's now the official luther head, and luther head is the new david wesley.


I rather have Brooks on the floor instead of Head... Until he gets WAY too useless, he still has speed. Just wait until T-Mac comes back, if he is still this bad remake this thread.

Re: Brooks is the new Luther Head

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:28 am
by jzmagik
ok maybe I should say Brooks is a slightly better Head right now. But be aware that he is now shooting under 40%.

Re: Brooks is the new Luther Head

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:30 am
by Guy986
No.

Brooks can actually dribble the basketball.

Re: Brooks is the new Luther Head

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:50 am
by YoungMoney23
hes still got room to grow but if this continues then he will be on the same level

Re: Brooks is the new Luther Head

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:55 am
by Yao_noodle
It is more like: Houston, the guards' graveyard.

Re: Brooks is the new Luther Head

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 5:42 am
by hackle
he just need to concentrate on being a good organizer, run the floor better, instead of taking stupid shots. he can be a really good play maker with his speed and ball control.

Re: Brooks is the new Luther Head

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:10 am
by Baller 24
No, our tempo flows much better, he isn't THAT bad of a backup- point guard, and just like how Rafer Alston is enjoying an awesome hot streak, it can be said the same for Brooks who could be in the middle of a shooting slump.

Re: Brooks is the new Luther Head

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:24 am
by langer
I think Brook is just adjusting... kind of lost

Re: Brooks is the new Luther Head

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:38 am
by BaYBaller
He has very good handles I don't know why you are hating. You don't lose your handles because you are in a shooting slump. It was just the other day he was handing it to the championship Celtics. Oh how fickle fans are.

Re: Brooks is the new Luther Head

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:41 am
by HTown_TMac
When will people learn that both of our PGs cannot play good at the same time. Just doesnt work for the Rockets.

Re: Brooks is the new Luther Head

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:48 am
by jzmagik
I'm sorry but its obvious his handles are not that good, I would say slightly above mediocre. Picks up his dribble too much, goes out of control at times with the ball, turnovers from dribbling in traffic. But here's the biggest problem, he doesn't know how to create space to get his own shot, and thats one of the biggest reasons for whats holding him back from becoming starter material. his hesitation dribble is weak for a guy with his speed. Trust me, I know ball handling and his is not smooth. Compare him to Deron, CP3, AI, Kobe, Harris... these guys are so fluid with their dribble. The difference is clear as day.

Re: Brooks is the new Luther Head

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:24 am
by HTown_TMac
jzmagik wrote:I'm sorry but its obvious his handles are not that good, I would say slightly above mediocre. Picks up his dribble too much, goes out of control at times with the ball, turnovers from dribbling in traffic. But here's the biggest problem, he doesn't know how to create space to get his own shot, and thats one of the biggest reasons for whats holding him back from becoming starter material. his hesitation dribble is weak for a guy with his speed. Trust me, I know ball handling and his is not smooth. Compare him to Deron, CP3, AI, Kobe, Harris... these guys are so fluid with their dribble. The difference is clear as day.


Nice, compare him to the all star MVP challengers of the league... lol

Re: Brooks is the new Luther Head

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:28 am
by jzmagik
HTown_TMac wrote:
jzmagik wrote:I'm sorry but its obvious his handles are not that good, I would say slightly above mediocre. Picks up his dribble too much, goes out of control at times with the ball, turnovers from dribbling in traffic. But here's the biggest problem, he doesn't know how to create space to get his own shot, and thats one of the biggest reasons for whats holding him back from becoming starter material. his hesitation dribble is weak for a guy with his speed. Trust me, I know ball handling and his is not smooth. Compare him to Deron, CP3, AI, Kobe, Harris... these guys are so fluid with their dribble. The difference is clear as day.


Nice, compare him to the all star MVP challengers of the league... lol


Bayballer said his handles were "very good". I consider all of those guys to have very good handles, which puts Brooks at mediocre.

Re: Brooks is the new Luther Head

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:28 am
by BaYBaller
I wasn't talking about creating space or holding the ball too long or whatever. You seem to be going off on some sort of tangent here with you hate for Brooks for some strange reason. I was strictly saying his ability to 'handle' the ball is very good. He's not going to get picked often, or turn it over like crazy if he gets ball pressure, etc. Like how Alston for instance has excellent handles, but that doesn't mean he has the ability to create space for his own shot.

You have to take Brooks for what he is, he's an unexperienced rookie with crazy speed and athleticism with yes, very good handles and a good shot, even though he is in a slump right now (for what really.. like a couple games?). Head on the other hand is what he is. His upside is no longer there, he's not as athletic, has bad handles. Brooks can finish around the rim, Head cannot. Contrary to what other people believe I personally do not believe Brooks is starting PG material for a championship team, but he could be an excellent back-up PG. Head is just a bad, bad player who cannot even play the PG position. He has to be played at back-up SG, and there is no place in the league for a back-up SG who is that bad.

Re: Brooks is the new Luther Head

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:46 am
by ShaY
He just lost his confidence a little bit , in the games he is scoring he also runs the offense well and crete shots for others.

In the games he can't score he looks confused out there running the offense.

He is not like Luther because he is not one dimensional , he also improved from last year and Luther didn't improve at all in his nba career.

Re: Brooks is the new Luther Head

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:46 pm
by moofs
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/aaron_bro ... plits.html

He's continuously declined through the season, awesome :) Still, you're exaggerating because of his slump, he's not remotely close to Luther Head in either production or talent. Like Bay said, nice job comparing a backup to all-stars. He might just need to play with TMac, as has been suggested, and who's been out all month.

Re: Brooks is the new Luther Head

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:02 pm
by T-Wack
You just don't get it, do you? It's the dudes second year in the league, and you want him to be an All Star, already. He's not going to be amazingly efficient throughout 82 games in his second year, especially given the fact that he barely saw the floor in his first. Aaron has proven that when given consistent minutes, he can put up big numbers, and when playing alongside McGrady, he's even better. Kid has shown flashes of being a star, and one week ago was the key to starting this hot streak in the Boston game.

Despite his current slump, he is still a better basketball player than Rafer Alston. And he isn't even close to the level of scrubbiness of Luther Head. You sound ridiculous.

Re: Brooks is the new Luther Head

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 5:10 pm
by jzmagik
moofs wrote:http://www.nba.com/playerfile/aaron_brooks/season_splits.html

He's continuously declined through the season, awesome :) Still, you're exaggerating because of his slump, he's not remotely close to Luther Head in either production or talent. Like Bay said, nice job comparing a backup to all-stars. He might just need to play with TMac, as has been suggested, and who's been out all month.


Do you want me to compile a list of all the guards who have better ball handling skills than Brooks, who supposedly has "very good" handles? I maintain that he's slightly above mediocre in this area which isn't that big of a deal.

Like I said before in a previous thread, I was all for starting Brooks over Alston before, but when Brooks can't hit shots, he's far worse than Alston. He can't make a simple entry pass, he doesn't run the offense that well, and despite his penetration it often results in absolutely nothing happening and just putting down to 10 seconds starting from scratch.

Bottom line is, this guy is showing flashes of Head's massive decline. Head was a solid contributor a few seasons ago in the regular season, remember when he used to hit all those clutch game winning 3s? Now look where he is...

Let me also show you Brooks total playoff stats last year.

8/25 fgs, 0/10 from 3, 3 assists, 3 turnovers in 50 minutes of play...

I don't want to hate on Brooks, and I hope he turns it around, but right now things aren't looking so good...

Re: Brooks is the new Luther Head

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 5:52 pm
by TMU
Despite his vast improvement on offense, Brooks still needs to hone his passing, defense, ball-handling skills, and be more consistent. However, I do believe his game will mature with time.

It's best to be patient with him. After all, like Wack said, he's only in his 2nd year.