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Baron for T-Mac?

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:41 pm
by waferwalston1
T-Mac For Baron Discussed
Baron Davis | Clippers
In addition to looking at Vince Carter, the Rockets have discussed a deal with the Clippers that would send McGrady to L.A. in exchange for a package featuring point guard Baron Davis, according to league sources.
McGrady has been battling knee problems all season, while the Clippers have been busy in recent days trying to move Davis, who they signed last summer to a free-agent deal in excess of $60 million. -- New York Daily News


Who knows whats going on if this is being discussed today?

Re: Baron for T-Mac?

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:50 pm
by red96
I hope not. This says panic trade all over it. Not looking forward to becoming the 07-08 Suns and Mavs.

Re: Baron for T-Mac?

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:56 pm
by waferwalston1
i wouldn't mind it only if the carter deal for artest went through as well but that is the only way i could see it working

Re: Baron for T-Mac?

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:00 pm
by HTown_TMac
Though this has been discussed in one of the other threads. This wouldnt be bad or good. Barons contract is quite big.. BUT not as big as Tracys. Which means we would possibly be getting Kaman or Camby in the trade. T-Mac will not be playing, so it is not like the Mavs or Suns.

Re: Baron for T-Mac?

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:02 pm
by barnsleyman123
This would be a good deal, we get a good point and a good scorer in Davis. A trio of Yao, Davis, and artest would be really good.
ps wasup trey nice username

Re: Baron for T-Mac?

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:05 pm
by Baller 24
LOL INJURED LOL 36%

Last time I checked he still has yet to have a game where he's shot over 50%, NO TO BARON PLZ.

Re: Baron for T-Mac?

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:16 pm
by HTown_TMac
Baller 24 wrote:LOL INJURED LOL 36%

Last time I checked he still has yet to have a game where he's shot over 50%, NO TO BARON PLZ.

Think about it... He is getting paid, and his team is going no where. Why should he play hard? Maybe I am wrong. I just think that he is not playing for a contract of a contender. No reason for him to try which could be good and/or bad.

Re: Baron for T-Mac?

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:31 pm
by King Roosk
I would welcome Baron Davis with open arms. I've always loved watching Baron Davis, and while his play is streaky he's still a playmaking PG...something we've needed on this team for a long time. Baron Davis gives us a PG with size that can create, score, run the break, and attack the basket. If we could net Baron for Mcgrady's hobbled ass then I'd be all for it.

Re: Baron for T-Mac?

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:48 pm
by TMACFORMVP
Baron is my favorite PG in the league, living in the bay area, I had the pleasure or horror of watching every game of his. He's an elite player when he's motivated and in shape, he's one of the best closers in the NBA, an elite play-maker, and dangerous, but streaky scorer. But what scares me is I realize the deficiencies he has in his game, and now that he's got that large contract in which he's locked up for what 4 more years, his motivation level isn't where it's supposed to be at. He's locked up, living the good life in LA. So even if he came to a better team in the Rockets, I'm not even sure the motivation factor is due to playing on a poor team with the Clippers.

He'd fit right in though, he's injury prone, a chucker from the perimeter, and shoots under 38% from the field, much like McGrady, and much like Artest. He's a natural born Houston Rocket. As for trading T-Mac for him, if the micro-fracture crap is true, then why not, McGrady's career is essentially done, and the risk of Baron is greater than Mac in a wheelchair. But also concerning is Baron's contract, he's not the player to take us over the top, and do we want to ruin that 2010, or even 2011 plan to have an older, and majorly locked up Baron who's bound to miss games, or have a "done" T-Mac who expires before the large 2010 FA class, and could be a valuable trading commodity in NEXT years trade deadline for his large expiring contract.

I think it's almost too unrealistic.

Re: Baron for T-Mac?

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:50 pm
by red96
I dont know. Baron is overpaid for his production right now and is on a very long contract. I would be ok with it if I was really convinced that this makes us better than SA and LA. You think that Baron will play better in HOU? If you all dont think so why should we go through with it(especially if it kills our 2010 abilities). For me I guess it would depend on who else we get back with Baron.

Re: Baron for T-Mac?

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:00 pm
by red96
Hmmm. Now that I think of it. What would you guys think if this trade went down?
T-Mac for B-Diddy + Camby and Ron+ Landry+ Head for V.Carter. It works on the trade checker.

Baron, Alston, Brooks
Carter, Von Wafer
Battier, VonWafer/Barry
Camby/Scola,Hayes
Yao, Camby, Deke

I really like this one. We completly kill all plans for 2010 though. Whatcha think?

Re: Baron for T-Mac?

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:07 pm
by waferwalston1
red96 wrote:Hmmm. Now that I think of it. What would you guys think if this trade went down?
T-Mac for B-Diddy + Camby and Ron+ Landry+ Head for V.Carter. It works on the trade checker.

Baron, Alston, Brooks
Carter, Von Wafer
Battier, VonWafer/Barry
Camby/Scola,Hayes
Yao, Camby, Deke

I really like this one. We completly kill all plans for 2010 though. Whatcha think?



That would be the best possible thing that could happen in my opinion with the whole Yao retirement deal this could be a roster that could make a decent push this year and the next

Re: Baron for T-Mac?

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:11 pm
by red96
red96 wrote:Hmmm. Now that I think of it. What would you guys think if this trade went down?
T-Mac for B-Diddy + Camby and Ron+ Landry+ Head for V.Carter. It works on the trade checker.

Baron, Alston, Brooks
Carter, Von Wafer
Battier, VonWafer/Barry
Camby/Scola,Hayes
Yao, Camby, Deke

I really like this one. We completly kill all plans for 2010 though. Whatcha think?

We can get something(Carter) for Ron before he leave(most likely). Replace the loss of Landry with Camby. And still (seriously)compete for the next few years.

Re: Baron for T-Mac?

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:52 pm
by MaxRider
why trade for a bad contract?

Re: Baron for T-Mac?

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:02 pm
by TMU
I see that most of you are desperate. Baron Davis is 29 years-old, has a horrible contract and will kill our free agency in the subsequent years. You have to think about the future as well. Morey should not touch this deal.

Re: Baron for T-Mac?

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:07 pm
by BaYBaller
I would do it but simply because T-Mac is gone next year @ at the trade deadline at the latest. Davis' contract, while long, isn't that bad on a yearly basis (not a max deal). It also significantly improves our weakest position @ PG.

But most importantly I think it makes us better this year and next, which is still the goal. Would T-Mac's expiring contract net us something better next year? Possibly, but not much better because @ best it's going to be a second-tier player with a sizable contract that runs past 2010, which is exactly what Davis is.

About Davis' play I am sure he'll play better when he is on a contender. Once you get locked in that contract the motivation to play is more about winning and your legacy. The risk with Davis IMO is more about potential chemistry issues but with Adelman being a player's coach and our solid locker room (which has so far passed the Artest litmus-test) I think we hedge that risk quite a bit.

All in all though T-Mac for Davis doesn't work straight up, there is a too much of a salary difference. If they take Alston (whose contract also expires 2010) along with T-Mac I would be all over this.

Re: Baron for T-Mac?

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:10 pm
by Iggyemu
I know we all want McGrady gone but come on now. If the Clippers pull this off it would be the best trade they have ever made. EVER. To offload a terrible contract in a half a season should earn some Executive of the Year honors for Dunleavy.

Re: Baron for T-Mac?

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:19 pm
by tombattor
But wouldn't Baron Davis help the Rocket make a run this year? I know it's a long contract, but when healthy, there aren't many PGs better than BD.

Re: Baron for T-Mac?

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:31 pm
by Iggyemu
tombattor wrote:But wouldn't Baron Davis help the Rocket make a run this year? I know it's a long contract, but when healthy, there aren't many PGs better than BD.


I don't think we really want to go through another 'when healthy' scenario. With McGrady out now I don't think we make any trades b/c we need our biggest trade bait which is Artest. Unless we are getting Carter back for Artest and fillers then we are probably better off staying as is right now.

Re: Baron for T-Mac?

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:52 pm
by red96
I would only trade for Baron if we could get Carter. If we cant get Carter I wouldnt do the Baron trade.