What do you guys think of Lowry?

[MalReyn]

I'll be honest, I'm a Celtics fan who, back in the 2006 draft, was hoping we would choose Lowry over Rondo. Even in hindsight, I still think very highly of Lowry.

Anyway, I have yet to see him play for the Rockets, and I was just wondering what you guys think of him so far. Based solely on box scores, it looks like he's been playing well up till now, but clearly numbers don't tell the whole story.

What do you think of his game? How has he fit in with your system? Do you think he has a future on your team (and as a reserve behind Brooks, or as a starter)? Any other thoughts are appreciated as well.

[HTown_TMac]

He fits perfectly... I think he will be like Rondo. He moves well without the ball, can get to the rim, plays defense and runs the offense. Just what we need, and he has good form, so his shooting should be rising as he progresses.

He knows he cannot shoot, so he does not shoot us out of the game. Which makes his presence that much better.

[moofs]

I, for one, am very accepting of 54/33% shooting with 3.5apg / 1.2 to, 2.6 rpg and 94% ft shooting in 20 mpg from the backup point guard.

He's looked pretty damn good.

[King Roosk]

He's been the perfect backup PG for our team so far. He comes in with intensity, he drives hard to the hoop, plays physical defense, and I don't think our PG position skips a beat when he comes in. It seems like many on this board are leaning towards Lowry being the starter, but I think he's a great backup PG whereas Brooks plays better next to our starters than when he comes off the bench. Lowry will sometimes finish games or be in during crunchtime, but I think we have the best chance to win a game with Brooks starting.

And also, I kind of hope Lowry doesn't develop legitimate 3 pt range. It seems like we haven't had someone who likes to drive to the basket like him in ages; I would hate if he fell under the Rockets curse and fell in love with his jumpshot.

[smapor]

And we doubted Morey....Never doubt him again.

[moofs]

And we doubted Morey....Never doubt him again.

Nah. It's perfectly fine. Even if someone is very very good, it doesn't mean they're perfect.
Questioning this trade made some sense if you only looked at his stats (which is what I did). Brian Cook and a 42/26 backup point who couldn't make it off the bench with the Grizzlies for our starting point guard?

I touted his 33% 3p shooting earlier, but shouldn't have. (he's 3-9, whoopty doo) Still happy with it and very much hoping his stats stay where they're at with our far-superior-to-the-Grizzlies post presence that forces bigs to stay with their assignments instead of collapsing on his drives.

[RoxFan08]

@ post above moofs...

Speak for yourself.

I admit I didn't think Lowry would be this good, but I was really excited when we got him. At the very least, I knew he wouldn't destroy us every time we played Memphis anymore.

[smapor]

And we doubted Morey....Never doubt him again.

Nah. It's perfectly fine. Even if someone is very very good, it doesn't mean they're perfect.
Questioning this trade made some sense if you only looked at his stats (which is what I did). Brian Cook and a 42/26 backup point who couldn't make it off the bench with the Grizzlies for our starting point guard?

I touted his 33% 3p shooting earlier, but shouldn't have. (he's 3-9, whoopty doo) Still happy with it and very much hoping his stats stay where they're at with our far-superior-to-the-Grizzlies post presence that forces bigs to stay with their assignments instead of collapsing on his drives.

Not me, as soon as we got him, i was like WoW a defensive PG who creates alot of contact..

I been wanting Rafer to be out for the last 2 years. He was just fool's gold because we had no body better and his whole TO to Assist Ratio was overblown, he virtually brings nothing on O. It was literally 4 on 5 when the Rockets played O. When Shane played with him, it was 3 on 5. Rafer had to go, if not with this trade, than this summer because Rockets aren't trading Shane unless they get a player who is much better for the team.

[smapor]

@ post above moofs...

Speak for yourself.

I admit I didn't think Lowry would be this good, but I was really excited when we got him. At the very least, I knew he wouldn't destroy us every time we played Memphis anymore.

We had alot of rocket fans who thought it was a horrible trade because Rafer was our starting PG. Truth is, we went no where with him in the last 3-4 years and he sure as hell ain't getting younger or into his prime years.

Big thanks to Magics who really needed a PG or else we would of never gotten rid of him.

[moofs]

We had alot of rocket fans who thought it was a horrible trade because Rafer was our starting PG. Truth is, we went no where with him in the last 3-4 years and he sure as hell ain't getting younger or into his prime years.

Big thanks to Magics who really needed a PG or else we would of never gotten rid of him.

That was a big part of the reason I wanted to get rid of him this year. I also didn't flesh out my original arguments for not getting rid of Rafer (since there's not much point right now), that was mostly a summary of the "nay" side of the board's initial perception.

Still, you misunderstood me, bad definition of the pronouns on my part. I meant it's ok to question Morey, cause no one's perfect. He just seems like he's going to be right more than whoever's questioning him. A lot more. Questioning things though is a big part of figuring out flaws, which is a big step in figuring out if they can and how to fix them.

The problem I usually run into is that questioning things too much doesn't save a whole lot of time for figuring out the answers to those questions

[smapor]

We had alot of rocket fans who thought it was a horrible trade because Rafer was our starting PG. Truth is, we went no where with him in the last 3-4 years and he sure as hell ain't getting younger or into his prime years.

Big thanks to Magics who really needed a PG or else we would of never gotten rid of him.

That was a big part of the reason I wanted to get rid of him this year. I also didn't flesh out my original arguments for not getting rid of Rafer (since there's not much point right now), that was mostly an abridged summary of the "nay" side of the board's initial perception.

Still, you misunderstood me, bad definition of the pronouns on my part. I meant it's ok to question Morey, cause no one's perfect. He just seems like he's going to be right more than whoever's questioning him. A lot more. Questioning things though is a big part of figuring out flaws, which is a big step in figuring out if they can and how to fix them.

The problem I usually run into is that questioning things too much doesn't save a whole lot of time for figuring out the answers to those questions

O I wasn't directing my comment about Morey at anybody. It was just a random post about Morey. LOL

But when i do question Morey, I think about the year he left the Celtics. I wonder how much did all those statistical analysis help by putting the Celtics team together? I mean you got the Slasher, the shooter, the defensive guy and a bunch of role players who fit perfectly with them. I know he left before the Celtics won a championship, but I wonder how much of his work was an influence to that team.

[tisbee]

Smapoor,
Re Morey and the Celts,I wonder if his biggest contribution was showing the coaching staff what his numbers could do for them and Thibidou took that appreciation over to the Celts.

Re Lowry,
He's been terrific for the team so far.
He doesn't defer to Ron,so the whole offense flows better. He makes PG passes to open players which has put a liitle more pep in Landry's step. He drives and gets fouls called,helping put the other team in the bonus. He penetrates and sets up open Rockets. He's stabilized the entire second unit making it much more effective. He gets the team easy baskets in transition.

For those of us who argue a 3pt shot is not essential in a Rocket PG,he's been manna from Heaven

Can he become the starting PG? Way too early to tell. Is he a player who's great in 20-25 minutes,but less effective w/more minutes? How much will Brooks grow? Will someone else be brought in over the Summer?
Most importantly,if McGrady comes back,how would he work w/McGrady? We know Brooks and McGrady worked pretty well together. I can see Lowry and T-Mac going either way. Not working because the other team just packs the paint. Working because T-Mac makes great outlet passes and Tracy would finally get to play w/a true passing PG.
Training camp will sure be interesting.

Lowry would be very good as a Celtic-too bad!-but Rondo is a far better defender.

[HTown_TMac]

T-Mac and Lowry would play together nicely, too bad we wont see it =[

[dunleavyjr]

speedy clexton

[PocketRockets]

****!!! A long post i just wrote got lost in the depths of the intranet =/

Summary: Lowry = good (@ trade time)
Lowry + passing game = genius

That passing game with Tmac (who will play on the 2nd unit I hope) would be the sickest lineups coming off the bench. If tmac is healthy, the bench could score more than our starters!! hahaha

[Ribalding]

I know he left before the Celtics won a championship, but I wonder how much of his work was an influence to that team.

Morey's talent foundation got the C's their rings. He should seriously get one. The only way Boston was in a position to get the big 3 while still having talent left over was because of the drafting/trades/etc. Morey pulled off in the years before.

Think about it...what good is having KG, Ray Allen, and Paul Pierce if your starting point guard is Matt Maloney?

*ahem*

[moofs]

*ahem*

[PocketRockets]

I think Morey will get his own in houston. Even if things progress at half the rate it has the past two years, we'll be fine in the future.

[Boredagain]

I think lowry will be our starter within 3 seasons, he's still young. And he only lacks a jumpshot from being a great PG.

[sook]

ok he is great as a PG, but he really needs to develop a 3 pt shot, he would be unstoppable if he did