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Yao Article 

Post#1 » by rocketworld » Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:02 am

great article
simply put...when yao gets the ball, the rockets win

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Post#2 » by YoungMoney23 » Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:34 am

Now only if our point guard didn't think he was the next Allen Iverson...
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Post#3 » by hackle » Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:42 am

VC#15 wrote:Now only if our point guard didn't think he was the next Allen Iverson...


i hope he is the present Allen Iverson, kept off the court
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Post#4 » by hackle » Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:48 am

Yao doesnt demand it, Adelman doesnt plan it, players dont execute it. we are going nowhere...
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Post#5 » by wushui » Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:51 am

Was Shaq ever fronted? If so, what kind of scheme did the Lakers use to get Shaq the ball?
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Post#6 » by HTown_TMac » Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:53 am

wushui wrote:Was Shaq ever fronted? If so, what kind of scheme did the Lakers use to get Shaq the ball?

Most likely Alley Oop.
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Post#7 » by YoungMoney23 » Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:06 am

If we lose this series I think a coaching change is needed, strong regular season performances aren't enough any more.
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Post#8 » by HTown_TMac » Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:09 am

VC#15 wrote:If we lose this series I think a coaching change is needed, strong regular season performances aren't enough any more.

Hell, Up 3-1 and losing is not acceptable.
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Post#9 » by PocketRockets » Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:39 am

For one stretch of the game, with lowry in the game. They would swing the ball to the wing guy, back out towards the middle of the 3pt and back into the wing guy and then into Yao who had position then. Oden was on Yao who doesn't seem to front as much as pryzbilla. I think the key will be to get Pryz in some foul trouble and If Oden is in, let Yao feast on him. If we get the same type of ref'n where they don't call fouls on Portland bigs, then we'll lose this next game at home too.

You would think after the Donaghy scandal they would eliminate the fines for arguing/criticizing referees (especially when it's horrible). Roy should get the calls he was getting last night, every game, but also should Yao. They didn't call the fouls at home w/Roy and they lost those two. They don't call the fouls for Yao in the two portland losses. If anyone's read the the transcript from donaghy's statement, watch the playoffs or any big season matchup, and you will see that Stern can very easily control the outcome of these games. (which i know he does)
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Post#10 » by stockmarketgod » Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:46 am

HTown_TMac wrote:
wushui wrote:Was Shaq ever fronted? If so, what kind of scheme did the Lakers use to get Shaq the ball?

Most likely Alley Oop.


push off on the defender to get space
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Post#11 » by Iggyemu » Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:53 am

wushui wrote:Was Shaq ever fronted? If so, what kind of scheme did the Lakers use to get Shaq the ball?


Shaq had great hands and athleticism for a man his size. Kobe and Fisher and Horry just threw it over the top and Shaq would catch it and dunk it and get fouled. And yes he pushed off..but he is was so strong a simple nudge into the back of his defender got him the space he needed.

As for this article. We know this. Every Rocket fan knows this. The fact that you guys react to the article in this way is unbelievable. What have you guys been watching? Yao is fronted b/c it works. B/c it works we can't get him the ball consistently. Just a rule of thumb...articles written by anyone other than the people that cover the Rockets (the guys who write for the chron) have no clue as to whats going on. They simply look at that crazy stat that tells us we have a 80%+ winning percentage when Yao scores 20+ points and then say that we don't get him the ball enough.

We don't get him the ball b/c the fronting defense takes him completely out of the game. When he isn't fronted like in game 1 and game 4 he gets his touches.
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Post#12 » by Teckon » Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:18 am

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/spo ... 00283.html
Below is Yao's reaction after Gaame 5:

Yao had grown tired of being reduced to a witness.
“I don’t know,” he said sarcastically when asked what went wrong in the 88-77 loss in Game 5. “I just went up and down on the court. I don’t know anything. I just ran baseline to baseline for seven or eight times. That’s it.
“I mean, I ran up and down. We didn’t organize well. We did not execute. We did not know what is the play. We don’t know what is called.”

To me, the rockets have certain plays to get Yao the ball but they did not run any of those plays in the 4th quarter and Yao is frustrated.


See Adelman's responses:
“Offensively, we have to have more patience,” Rockets coach Rick Adelman said. “We can’t just come down and play at a frenzied pace.
“We only had five assists in the second half. We shortcut a lot of things. We played impatient trying to score, and we didn’t have to. And we turned it over too many times. That’s the impatience. If we play the way we’re capable of playing, we’ll be OK.”

If Adelman could say this after the game, why he did not able to correct it in game? Maybe the players just refused to listen during timeout?

Here is AB's response in the same article:
“The first thing you want is to get Yao the ball,” Brooks said. “You swing it around and try to find him. You find yourself in an awkward position. Somebody has to take the shots. I don’t mind taking them. Normally I make them. This game, I didn’t.

Read AB's response, seem that it is not AB's job to pass the ball to Yao directly but to swing the ball around and hopefully someone (Battier being most successful so far) will pass the ball to Yao. Ya that may work if Yao is fronted. But why swing the ball if Yao were not fronted?
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Post#13 » by grond » Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:57 am

edit edit blah blah nervous.

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