Pops will be a leader in blocks/rebs

t2thadot · Post #1 » by **t2thadot** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:43 pm

If Pops Mensa bonsu starts at C this year, which I think he should..he will be top 5 in the league for rebounds and blocked shots. Trust me. Mark my words. il be back close to the end of the year and pull this thread back up. Peace

x- · Post #2 » by x- » Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:52 pm

Pops will be lucky if he makes the team and plays more minutes than Joey Dorsey.

PerkinsFor3 · Post #3 » by **PerkinsFor3** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:59 pm

dorsey is a beast too

too bad both of them arent good basketball players yet

YaoZaii · Post #4 » by **YaoZaii** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 3:09 pm

pops seems more ready than dorsey.

it would take a miracle for dorsey to stay in the court without fouling out.

Rendezvous · Post #5 » by **Rendezvous** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:52 pm

t2thadot wrote:If Pops Mensa bonsu starts at C this year, which I think he should..he will be top 5 in the league for rebounds and blocked shots. Trust me. Mark my words. il be back close to the end of the year and pull this thread back up. Peace

U sir are a dumbass

YoungMoney23 · Post #6 » by **YoungMoney23** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:50 pm

DiamondX wrote:
t2thadot wrote:If Pops Mensa bonsu starts at C this year, which I think he should..he will be top 5 in the league for rebounds and blocked shots. Trust me. Mark my words. il be back close to the end of the year and pull this thread back up. Peace

U sir are a dumbass

what he said

Post #7 » by **Mr. E** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:06 am

I'm hoping that Pops will be a solid guy for us off of the bench, giving us some much needed height and tenacity.

I'm not expecting him to start.

Hell, Pops isn't expecting Pops to start.

aznkillabeezZz · Post #8 » by **aznkillabeezZz** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:50 am

Wow are you psychic so you can tell what happens at the end of the season ? Monsu bonsu isn't even guaranteed a spot yet. He's competing with will conroy for a roster spot. But I hope Pops makes the cut because he's explosive and he's got the height and shot blocking. We need a lengthy pf.

Alex_De_Large · Post #9 » by **Alex_De_Large** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:37 am

Landry-Scola-Hayes-Andersen, thats our rotation inside.

langer · Post #10 » by **langer** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:37 pm

You must be a raptor fan...who are not living the real world.

rocketsballin · Post #11 » by **rocketsballin** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:56 pm

now now, dont be surprised if our frontcout players get in foul trouble every 2 games, in that case we'll need a 5th big. already have cook, but obviously not good enough, and who knows if dorsey will play again on this team, even w/o yao he wont play how **** up is that? thats where pops comes in, as the 5th big,in case of fouls or w/e.

even w/ pops, shane or ariza can play some pf, depending on matchups.

the team needs more bigs than wings w/ no yao, and foul trouble is a more likely situation to be in. only 4 bigs one 3 of them undersized, the team needs pops.

im gettin **** sick of these undersized bigs btw. its cool that we have scola/hayes/landry. and now anderson has shown he mighjt be able to help w/ some shot blocking, but the team needs to stop w/ this undersized garbage. i suppose its "good for the new paced offense" dur dur w/e, pops should be someone who's 6'11 at least, but w/e

moofs · Post #12 » by **moofs** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:58 pm

Dejuan Blair is an undersized big.

His (approx) per/36 stats in the preseason:
30ppg, 60% shooting, 16rpg, 3.4spg, 2.34 topg, 3.6 fouls, .4bpg

Anderson's 6'11?
We REALLY have to stop overrating height@head and shot blocking on this board.
They aren't THAT valuable. Imo, steals are better than blocks.

rocketsballin · Post #13 » by **rocketsballin** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:13 pm

shot blocking is the reason shane battier can guard kobe better than anyone else (arguably the best defender). shot blocking is key to good defense. rockets have been a top 10 defensive team since they got yao, not since they got shane battier. that streak could end this year w/ absolutely no shot blocking.

im not saying we should go out and a get a prime shot blocker, im just sayin there should be mroe than yao ming out there to block shots. deke was good till last year, but going forward the team needs to revamp their inside defense a bit, now that yao is nearing his 30s and coming back from a huge injury, have to limit his minutes more.

moofs · Post #14 » by **moofs** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:27 pm

I'm sure it plays a part, plenty of things do. We also featured Deke for 4 of those 7 years, and Yao missed nearly half of the games for 3 of the last 4 seasons. Our team tends to defend very well as a unit without Yao in, as well. I really have no idea where we're going this year. Whether or not any of that is true, I still don't think you can deny that we've always overrated shot blocking. Even with Yao in the lineup, we've always wanted another "shot blocking big". Have we really needed one, to date? Not overly.

Per my above post, I really really really really really do wish we'd gotten DeJuan Blair instead of Jermaine Taylor. I don't care if he only lasts two seasons, he'd pry have paid off more.

rocketsballin · Post #15 » by **rocketsballin** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:48 pm

when deke was here we had more than enough shot blocking, now that he's gone and yao out for this year, it leaves no one to man the paint, to protect the rim. you cant have undersized bigs to be your inside defense, all but one who do most of their stuff on the offensive end. who knows if yao can comeback 100%, and not play half a season anymore, or miss the playoffs. im hopin he can come back at least 17/7 at the worst.

ya this year may not need to find a shot blocker, but next year there has to be mroe than yao to defend the paint. doesnt need big minutes, same minutes as deke maybe, but there has to be insurance for INJURY PRONE YAO MING! the team can play defense w/o a shot blocking threat inside, but w/o that rockets wont go far in the playoffs. even w/o a blocker the defense wont be consistent.

moofs · Post #16 » by **moofs** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:44 pm

http://www.nba.com/lakers/stats/2001/index.html

That help any?

rocketsballin · Post #17 » by **rocketsballin** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:01 am

help with wat? shaq had samaki walker and horry to help w/ inside d, as you can see they both avg a block per game, and both contributed well to the team. then you got kobe, mitch, george w/ help defense .

do u really think houston can go deep in the playoffs w/o someone to protect the rim other than yao? wat about yao ming insurance? how is shot blocking overrated, when champs always have top 5 shot blocking? spurs, pistons, lakers, celtics. look at the phx and dallas, both offensive powers, phx had amare for inside d, dallas had eric/diop, dallas goes to the finals, suns get to the wcf twice.

on ball shot blocking is wat we need, we have plenty off ball. yao ming is on ball, a guy like nick collison would be good enough. but when yao's in foul trouble or injured, the defense will be inconsistent, specially in the playoffs. teams will just slash to the basket and throw it up, and get our bigs racking up fouls.

rag-time4 · Post #18 » by **rag-time4** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:14 pm

roxfashoballin wrote:help with wat? shaq had samaki walker and horry to help w/ inside d, as you can see they both avg a block per game, and both contributed well to the team. then you got kobe, mitch, george w/ help defense .

do u really think houston can go deep in the playoffs w/o someone to protect the rim other than yao? wat about yao ming insurance? how is shot blocking overrated, when champs always have top 5 shot blocking? spurs, pistons, lakers, celtics. look at the phx and dallas, both offensive powers, phx had amare for inside d, dallas had eric/diop, dallas goes to the finals, suns get to the wcf twice.

on ball shot blocking is wat we need, we have plenty off ball. yao ming is on ball, a guy like nick collison would be good enough. but when yao's in foul trouble or injured, the defense will be inconsistent, specially in the playoffs. teams will just slash to the basket and throw it up, and get our bigs racking up fouls.

Anyone who says shotblocking is overrated/unimportant is totally oblivious to basketball history. How about Bill Russell?? 11 rings in 13 seasons? The greatest shot blocker of all time?? Correlation anyone?

You're right about the Suns - they had not only Amaré but Marion, as well as Steven Hunter, to block shots. The Suns biggest problem defensively is and has always been Steve Nash. Nash will go down in history as the only MVP winner to fail to make the playoffs with Shaquille O'Neal as a teammate in the starting lineup.

I think the Rockets are in trouble without better defensive presence in the middle. Stromile Swift is available. The Rockets should absolutely pick him up.

HtownPA · Post #19 » by **HtownPA** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:21 am

The big guys that have rings aren't just shotblockers and rebounders. They are offensive juggernaughts also. I would say that shotblockers with no offense are anti-championship, because they are offensive liabilities with no post up skills.

Talent is more important than Blocks.

Shawn Bradley, and Mutombo, Theo Ratliff,and Manute Bol are other prolific blockers with no rings. They are offensive liabilities. Pops falls into the category of shotblocker with no post up skills.

rag-time4 · Post #20 » by **rag-time4** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:11 am

HtownPA wrote:The big guys that have rings aren't just shotblockers and rebounders. They are offensive juggernaughts also. I would say that shotblockers with no offense are anti-championship, because they are offensive liabilities with no post up skills.

Talent is more important than Blocks.

Shawn Bradley, and Mutombo, Theo Ratliff,and Manute Bol are other prolific blockers with no rings. They are offensive liabilities. Pops falls into the category of shotblocker with no post up skills.

Mutombo also has a few NBA finals appearances and has consistently gotten his team to the playoffs, even the Knicks. If you look at Mutombo's career stats, you'll see his team only missed the postseason a couple times in his whole career.