[Yahoo] Rockets Don't Want McGrady

Post #1 » by **TMU** » Fri Dec 4, 2009 7:23 am

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=A ... &type=lgns

The Rockets continue to offer Tracy McGrady in a trade, but that will be a difficult proposition considering he’s the highest-paid player in the league ($23.2 million) and no one has seen him play in nine months. Houston seems willing to take back a longer-term contract for McGrady, but most executives believe his high salary makes it hard to put together a package.

Rockets GM Daryl Morey and coach Rick Adelman don’t want McGrady back with the team, and have insisted that he isn’t physically ready to return to the lineup. McGrady would love a trade, but knows he must start playing again for it to be possible.

Guy986 · Post #2 » by **Guy986** » Fri Dec 4, 2009 8:43 am

End of the Mcgrady Era. Sad.

Fred Williamson · Post #3 » by **Fred Williamson** » Fri Dec 4, 2009 12:26 pm

If he's healthy, what about

Chandler+Jax+Augustin for TMac+Hayes(or Landry)+Lowry?

Iggyemu · Post #4 » by **Iggyemu** » Fri Dec 4, 2009 1:43 pm

Well I guess the Rockets are willing to end the era. Yahoo I think fails to specify that we aren't gonna take back a bad player just to get rid of McGrady. The only way we are taking a long term contract in return is if that players can be a good player for us in the coming years.

We should inquire about Paul...seriously.

dartherus · Post #5 » by **dartherus** » Fri Dec 4, 2009 2:01 pm

GWallace3 wrote:If he's healthy, what about

Chandler+Jax+Augustin for TMac+Hayes(or Landry)+Lowry?

I guess that kind of trade is the trick.....you have to give in some young player with good stats, like Landry or Brooks, to convince other teams to agree to send the Rockets star caliber players with big contracts.

Smash3 · Post #6 » by **Smash3** » Fri Dec 4, 2009 2:08 pm

Wow sad... I'll miss him, but I'll be pissed if we dump him for crap. But we're talking about Morey

YoungMoney23 · Post #7 » by **YoungMoney23** » Fri Dec 4, 2009 2:08 pm

Do Morey and Adelman realise that nobody wants Allen Iverson yet a team picked him up because they needed him to fill a void? We could seriously use T-Mac especially his play making abilities.

YaoZaii · Post #8 » by **YaoZaii** » Fri Dec 4, 2009 2:22 pm

i'll easily give up any player apart from Yao to get a shot at Paul or wade.

YoungMoney23 · Post #9 » by **YoungMoney23** » Fri Dec 4, 2009 2:32 pm

YaoZaii wrote:i'll easily give up any player apart from Yao to get a shot at Paul or wade.

I second that, but if we were going to make a move for Wade we would be better off waiting until the off season that way we can lock him up long term as there would be a good chance he would bolt in free agency if we acquired him this season. I believe Bosh is our best bet since Toronto are going no where and he's from Texas (Dallas I know but still). The hornets would be foolish for trading Paul since all they really need to do is fix their supporting cast.

Iggyemu · Post #10 » by **Iggyemu** » Fri Dec 4, 2009 2:43 pm

YaoZaii wrote:i'll easily give up any player apart from Yao to get a shot at Paul or wade.

Rockets don't want Yao back either. Problem is they have no choice so they'll act as if they do. Its hard to fathom a smart guy like Morey believing that a man with an extensive history of foot problems is who you should be building around.

Meatcookie · Post #11 » by **Meatcookie** » Fri Dec 4, 2009 2:52 pm

Rockets don't want TMac back because he is worth MUCH more sitting on the bench. I think the Rockets collect over $200K every game he doesn't play. TMac isn't worth anywhere near the $23 million he is making. Him playing doesn't help the team even half as much as him sitting out.

The Rockets DO want Yao back. The NBA wants Yao back. 17 billion Chinese fans (+ or - 500) are awesome for the NBA.

YoungMoney23 · Post #12 » by **YoungMoney23** » Fri Dec 4, 2009 3:18 pm

jts10 wrote:Rockets don't want TMac back because he is worth MUCH more sitting on the bench. I think the Rockets collect over $200K every game he doesn't play. TMac isn't worth anywhere near the $23 million he is making. Him playing doesn't help the team even half as much as him sitting out.

The Rockets DO want Yao back. The NBA wants Yao back. 17 billion Chinese fans (+ or - 500) are awesome for the NBA.

If the NBA wanted Yao back they would get the refs to do a better job of officiating him

Iggyemu · Post #13 » by **Iggyemu** » Fri Dec 4, 2009 3:21 pm

jts10 wrote:The Rockets DO want Yao back. The NBA wants Yao back. 17 billion Chinese fans (+ or - 500) are awesome for the NBA.

At what price? If you are talking paying him max money in the summer of 2011 then you are mistaken. Its about winning. None of those things describe winning. Like I said its hard to fathom a smart guy like Morey putting winning to the side and paying a guy 8-15million a year just to watch him sit out entire seasons with foot problems with his justification for it being...oh...he is good for the NBA...he is good for making the Rockets money. I think Morey would resign before he put money over winning. I think Adelman would quit. They both like Yao..so they won't run him under the bus like they have McGrady. But believe me..they would rather not re-sign him 2011.

With McGrady I just don't think they want him..simple as that. He burned the bridge and now they are trying to get something for him. In order to that he will have to play at some point. But maybe closer to trade deadline other teams will only care about the contract and not whether or not he could play.

Post #14 » by **Mr. E** » Fri Dec 4, 2009 3:22 pm

Yao's not going anywhere. He is worth way too much to Les Alexander.

as for trading McGrady, I still only see two options: 1) a team that believes he is the final missing piece; or 2) a team desperate for the (probably disappointing) 2010 sweepstakes.

I trust in Morey to do what is best for this team; but I will be utterly devastated if we use Landry to facilitate a trade, no matter what we get back. That may just be the fan in me talking, but I'm ok with that.

Iggyemu · Post #15 » by **Iggyemu** » Fri Dec 4, 2009 3:30 pm

Mr. E wrote:Yao's not going anywhere. He is worth way too much to Les Alexander.

Yet the Rockets are not leading the NBA in revenue. They are top 10 and around 5th or 6th but the Lakers, Knicks, Bulls lead the way. There is this myth going around that the Rockets are making a ton of money from Yao. They are making a good deal but If you are not consistently leading the NBA in revenue because of Yao then you can't just pay an injury prone player when that money could go to someone that will help us consistently.

Post #16 » by **Mr. E** » Fri Dec 4, 2009 3:46 pm

Iggyemu wrote:Yet the Rockets are not leading the NBA in revenue. They are top 10 and around 5th or 6th but the Lakers, Knicks, Bulls lead the way. There is this myth going around that the Rockets are making a ton of money from Yao. They are making a good deal but If you are not consistently leading the NBA in revenue because of Yao then you can't just pay an injury prone player when that money could go to someone that will help us consistently.

The Rockets aren't Les Alexander's only investment. From what I've come to understand he's had doors opened to him for some substantial business opportunities in China, and that's all because of the Yao Connection. That's why I specifically said that he's too valuable to Les Alexander and not the Rockets organization.

Iggyemu · Post #17 » by **Iggyemu** » Fri Dec 4, 2009 3:49 pm

Mr. E wrote:
The Rockets aren't Les Alexander's only investment. From what I've come to understand he's had doors opened to him for some substantial business opportunities in China, and that's all because of the Yao Connection. That's why I specifically said that he's too valuable to Les Alexander and not the Rockets organization.

Fair enough.

Would you remain a fan if you knew money trumped winning? Yao is not a building piece. If he came cheap..like MLE cheap..maybe even 8-9 million a year cheap then maybe. But he is gonna want max dollars or something close to it. And if the Rockets do that they show that winning is secondary to Alexander's business ventures. Personally...I will no longer be a fan of this team if that happens. That money could go to someone that will be there for 82 games and the playoffs.

Post #18 » by **Mr. E** » Fri Dec 4, 2009 3:56 pm

As a lifelong Rockets, Astros and Texans/Oilers fan, I think that my fan status can survive just about anthing short of a team moving (FU TITANS!!!).

I completely understand how many fans would be turned off if what you are describing is the case, but I'll still cheer for the team. I'm willfully naive enough to hope that Yao re-structures his deal; but I'm prepared for that not to happen. Personally, I'm a Yao fan, so the Rockets staying with him doesn't bother me so much (and yes, I do understand all of the downsides to him).

YaoZaii · Post #19 » by **YaoZaii** » Fri Dec 4, 2009 4:52 pm

Iggyemu wrote:
Mr. E wrote:Yao's not going anywhere. He is worth way too much to Les Alexander.

Yet the Rockets are not leading the NBA in revenue. They are top 10 and around 5th or 6th but the Lakers, Knicks, Bulls lead the way. There is this myth going around that the Rockets are making a ton of money from Yao. They are making a good deal but If you are not consistently leading the NBA in revenue because of Yao then you can't just pay an injury prone player when that money could go to someone that will help us consistently.

haha, we might be outside top 10 without Yao. lol.

well, i think Yao will probably take a paycut definitely. he knows that he needs to make up for this season; unlike McGrady, Yao is not a disruptive figure... he has never had issues with the management and is well-liked by his mates. then again, if the rockets want to win, they need to work on their salary ratio. We kinda did ourselves in before Morey came in.

YaoZaii · Post #20 » by **YaoZaii** » Fri Dec 4, 2009 5:02 pm

there are some players might be interesting to.

maybe we can try to ship Tmac to a team which is like struggling.

maybe the Nets or Kings?

also we need some GM with less intellect to seal the deal. lol. send him some highlights of Tmac like the 13 pts in 33 seconds. he might buy it. lol.