Tracy McGrady

SirHuey · Post #1 » by **SirHuey** » Sun Dec 6, 2009 6:42 pm

- Do you believe he will remain a Rocket by the end of the season or will he get traded no matter what?

- If he remains healthy by the end of the season, and plays good...will you welcome him back for a lower contract?

This team has gotten better than before, the role players have stepped up and developed...and with the addition of Yao and T-Mac, it'll only be better...so my last question is:
Would you like to see one last run with Yao Ming and T-Mac (As long both men are healthy)?

Post #2 » by **TMU** » Sun Dec 6, 2009 7:12 pm

1. I believe he'll stay as a Rocket. There simply isn't a good package that is being offered at this point. I doubt Morey is willing to take bad contract just for the sake of "getting something for an expiring asset". Even if McGrady makes a successful comeback, no team will make a good package for an expiring contract.

2. McGrady needs to show that he can manufacture some numbers while staying healthy. It also depends on how much "cut" he's willing to accept.

Post #3 » by **TMACFORMVP** » Sun Dec 6, 2009 7:17 pm

T-Mac United wrote:1. I believe he'll stay as a Rocket. There simply isn't a good package that is being offered at this point. I doubt Morey is willing to take bad contract just for the sake of "getting something for an expiring asset". Even if McGrady makes a successful comeback, no team will make a big offer.

2. McGrady needs to show that he can manufacture some numbers while staying healthy. It also depends on how much "cut" he's willing to accept.

Yeah, 100% agreed.

tisbee · Post #4 » by **tisbee** » Sun Dec 6, 2009 9:43 pm

Thinking about 2010 salaries:
@ $42.8mil w/Hayes
@ $11mil in resigning Scola,Lowry and a Conroy/Temple(either League rookie min or up to the $725thou Bud/Taylor got)
@ $1.2mil for First Rd draftee
Adds up to @ $55mil for 13 players
Assuming Lux Tax declines to @ $68mil that leaves only some $12-14mil for an MLE FA and McGrady.(Or the max contracts the Rockets could take back in a McGrady trade.)
Leaves @ 9-12mil for McGrady.

Sports Arsenal · Post #5 » by **Sports Arsenal** » Mon Dec 7, 2009 12:23 am

Tisbee
How does that leave our roster before any FA signings not named Scola and Lowry?
By the way...
I see Scola getting around 7mil/year and Lowry getting a contract similar to Landrys.

Teckon · Post #6 » by **Teckon** » Mon Dec 7, 2009 3:43 am

tisbee wrote:Thinking about 2010 salaries:
@ $42.8mil w/Hayes
@ $11mil in resigning Scola,Lowry and a Conroy/Temple(either League rookie min or up to the $725thou Bud/Taylor got)
@ $1.2mil for First Rd draftee
Adds up to @ $55mil for 13 players
Assuming Lux Tax declines to @ $68mil that leaves only some $12-14mil for an MLE FA and McGrady.(Or the max contracts the Rockets could take back in a McGrady trade.)
Leaves @ 9-12mil for McGrady.

If Tmac is willing to sign $9-10 million a year, do rocket fans think it is worthwhile for the rockets? Or is it better to try to sign and trade Tmac for another impact player (not necessary superstar but impact player)?

DumbyTheWizard · Post #7 » by **DumbyTheWizard** » Mon Dec 7, 2009 4:40 pm

tisbee wrote:Thinking about 2010 salaries:
@ $42.8mil w/Hayes
@ $11mil in resigning Scola,Lowry and a Conroy/Temple(either League rookie min or up to the $725thou Bud/Taylor got)
@ $1.2mil for First Rd draftee
Adds up to @ $55mil for 13 players
Assuming Lux Tax declines to @ $68mil that leaves only some $12-14mil for an MLE FA and McGrady.(Or the max contracts the Rockets could take back in a McGrady trade.)
Leaves @ 9-12mil for McGrady.

It doesnt work like this. the cap space you have is not the lux tax minus the payroll but the salary cup minus ths payroll. But all that doesnt matter. Mcgrady played for the Rockets the last 3 years which means he is a Larry Bird FA which means you can pay him whatever you want. If Morey wants, he can give max contracts to Brooks (Also a Bird FA), Scola (same), Landry (..)and T-mac and still have the MLE to sign another player.

Guy986 · Post #8 » by **Guy986** » Mon Dec 7, 2009 4:44 pm

Teckon wrote:
tisbee wrote:Thinking about 2010 salaries:
@ $42.8mil w/Hayes
@ $11mil in resigning Scola,Lowry and a Conroy/Temple(either League rookie min or up to the $725thou Bud/Taylor got)
@ $1.2mil for First Rd draftee
Adds up to @ $55mil for 13 players
Assuming Lux Tax declines to @ $68mil that leaves only some $12-14mil for an MLE FA and McGrady.(Or the max contracts the Rockets could take back in a McGrady trade.)
Leaves @ 9-12mil for McGrady.

If Tmac is willing to sign $9-10 million a year, do rocket fans think it is worthwhile for the rockets? Or is it better to try to sign and trade Tmac for another impact player (not necessary superstar but impact player)?

resign tmac? 10 million a year? :lol:

You're kidding right?

Baller 24 · Post #9 » by **Baller 24** » Mon Dec 7, 2009 5:13 pm

Wouldn't be too absurd to think if he returns and plays effective enough. The bigger question is if the organization is going to resign Yao to a max contract or not, especially with a career defining surgery like his.

SirHuey · Post #10 » by **SirHuey** » Mon Dec 7, 2009 8:08 pm

you know half of you guys aren't even answering my questions...

heathmalc · Post #11 » by **heathmalc** » Mon Dec 7, 2009 10:19 pm

Cleveland sends:
JJ Hickson
Anderson Varejao
ZYdrunas Ilgauskas (with agreement to buy him out so he can retire as a Cavalier)
Danny Green (*Rookie)
2010 1st round draft pick
2012 1st round draft pick

[b]Houston sends:[b]
Tracy McGrady
Landry

Rendezvous · Post #12 » by **Rendezvous** » Mon Dec 7, 2009 10:49 pm

NO

GO AWAY!

Guy986 · Post #13 » by **Guy986** » Mon Dec 7, 2009 11:23 pm

heathmalc wrote:Cleveland sends:
JJ Hickson
Anderson Varejao
ZYdrunas Ilgauskas (with agreement to buy him out so he can retire as a Cavalier)
Danny Green (*Rookie)
2010 1st round draft pick
2012 1st round draft pick

[b]Houston sends:[b]
Tracy McGrady
Landry

GTFO

rocketsballin · Post #14 » by **rocketsballin** » Mon Dec 7, 2009 11:54 pm

its time to drink

heathmalc · Post #15 » by **heathmalc** » Tue Dec 8, 2009 12:17 am

I think a lot of Houston fans are going to be surprised when there aren't very many offers for Tracy.

....But, that's just my opinion, as he has devalued himself over the last two years with his attitude and injuries...not to mention his age and salary.

chyau.00 · Post #16 » by **chyau.00** » Tue Dec 8, 2009 12:28 am

i doubt tmac would even want to come back

Rendezvous · Post #17 » by **Rendezvous** » Tue Dec 8, 2009 1:32 am

chyau.00 wrote:i doubt tmac would even want to come back

are you crazy? he's dying to come back

KiDdFrESh · Post #18 » by **KiDdFrESh** » Tue Dec 8, 2009 4:06 am

If he plays great and isn't out of the lineup, leads us to the playoffs, and does his playoff thang except we win a series or two than ya I'd re-sign him to a 3 deal worth 30-36 million.

mackzone · Post #19 » by **mackzone** » Tue Dec 8, 2009 1:52 pm

imho that would be too much. full MLE, nothing more.

Teckon · Post #20 » by **Teckon** » Tue Dec 8, 2009 2:12 pm

DumbyTheWizard wrote:
tisbee wrote:Thinking about 2010 salaries:
@ $42.8mil w/Hayes
@ $11mil in resigning Scola,Lowry and a Conroy/Temple(either League rookie min or up to the $725thou Bud/Taylor got)
@ $1.2mil for First Rd draftee
Adds up to @ $55mil for 13 players
Assuming Lux Tax declines to @ $68mil that leaves only some $12-14mil for an MLE FA and McGrady.(Or the max contracts the Rockets could take back in a McGrady trade.)
Leaves @ 9-12mil for McGrady.

It doesnt work like this. the cap space you have is not the lux tax minus the payroll but the salary cup minus ths payroll. But all that doesnt matter. Mcgrady played for the Rockets the last 3 years which means he is a Larry Bird FA which means you can pay him whatever you want. If Morey wants, he can give max contracts to Brooks (Also a Bird FA), Scola (same), Landry (..)and T-mac and still have the MLE to sign another player.

He is just giving some ballpark salary range for Tmac should Rocket try to resign him while keeping the total salary under the luxury cap. If rockets continue to believe the current group can be a championship contender, he will be willing to pay luxury tax for it but they have experiment it and no result to show except one 2nd round trip.