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Tracy McGrady
Posted: Sun Dec 6, 2009 6:42 pm
by SirHuey
- Do you believe he will remain a Rocket by the end of the season or will he get traded no matter what?
- If he remains healthy by the end of the season, and plays good...will you welcome him back for a lower contract?
This team has gotten better than before, the role players have stepped up and developed...and with the addition of Yao and T-Mac, it'll only be better...so my last question is:
Would you like to see one last run with Yao Ming and T-Mac (As long both men are healthy)?
Re: Tracy McGrady
Posted: Sun Dec 6, 2009 7:12 pm
by TMU
1. I believe he'll stay as a Rocket. There simply isn't a good package that is being offered at this point. I doubt Morey is willing to take bad contract just for the sake of "getting something for an expiring asset". Even if McGrady makes a successful comeback, no team will make a good package for an expiring contract.
2. McGrady needs to show that he can manufacture some numbers while staying healthy. It also depends on how much "cut" he's willing to accept.
Re: Tracy McGrady
Posted: Sun Dec 6, 2009 7:17 pm
by TMACFORMVP
T-Mac United wrote:1. I believe he'll stay as a Rocket. There simply isn't a good package that is being offered at this point. I doubt Morey is willing to take bad contract just for the sake of "getting something for an expiring asset". Even if McGrady makes a successful comeback, no team will make a big offer.
2. McGrady needs to show that he can manufacture some numbers while staying healthy. It also depends on how much "cut" he's willing to accept.
Yeah, 100% agreed.
Re: Tracy McGrady
Posted: Sun Dec 6, 2009 9:43 pm
by tisbee
Thinking about 2010 salaries:
@ $42.8mil w/Hayes
@ $11mil in resigning Scola,Lowry and a Conroy/Temple(either League rookie min or up to the $725thou Bud/Taylor got)
@ $1.2mil for First Rd draftee
Adds up to @ $55mil for 13 players
Assuming Lux Tax declines to @ $68mil that leaves only some $12-14mil for an MLE FA and McGrady.(Or the max contracts the Rockets could take back in a McGrady trade.)
Leaves @ 9-12mil for McGrady.
Re: Tracy McGrady
Posted: Mon Dec 7, 2009 12:23 am
by Sports Arsenal
Tisbee
How does that leave our roster before any FA signings not named Scola and Lowry?
By the way...
I see Scola getting around 7mil/year and Lowry getting a contract similar to Landrys.
Re: Tracy McGrady
Posted: Mon Dec 7, 2009 3:43 am
by Teckon
tisbee wrote:Thinking about 2010 salaries:
@ $42.8mil w/Hayes
@ $11mil in resigning Scola,Lowry and a Conroy/Temple(either League rookie min or up to the $725thou Bud/Taylor got)
@ $1.2mil for First Rd draftee
Adds up to @ $55mil for 13 players
Assuming Lux Tax declines to @ $68mil that leaves only some $12-14mil for an MLE FA and McGrady.(Or the max contracts the Rockets could take back in a McGrady trade.)
Leaves @ 9-12mil for McGrady.
If Tmac is willing to sign $9-10 million a year, do rocket fans think it is worthwhile for the rockets? Or is it better to try to sign and trade Tmac for another impact player (not necessary superstar but impact player)?
Re: Tracy McGrady
Posted: Mon Dec 7, 2009 4:40 pm
by DumbyTheWizard
tisbee wrote:Thinking about 2010 salaries:
@ $42.8mil w/Hayes
@ $11mil in resigning Scola,Lowry and a Conroy/Temple(either League rookie min or up to the $725thou Bud/Taylor got)
@ $1.2mil for First Rd draftee
Adds up to @ $55mil for 13 players
Assuming Lux Tax declines to @ $68mil that leaves only some $12-14mil for an MLE FA and McGrady.(Or the max contracts the Rockets could take back in a McGrady trade.)
Leaves @ 9-12mil for McGrady.
It doesnt work like this. the cap space you have is not the lux tax minus the payroll but the salary cup minus ths payroll. But all that doesnt matter. Mcgrady played for the Rockets the last 3 years which means he is a Larry Bird FA which means you can pay him whatever you want. If Morey wants, he can give max contracts to Brooks (Also a Bird FA), Scola (same), Landry (..)and T-mac and still have the MLE to sign another player.
Re: Tracy McGrady
Posted: Mon Dec 7, 2009 4:44 pm
by Guy986
Teckon wrote:tisbee wrote:Thinking about 2010 salaries:
@ $42.8mil w/Hayes
@ $11mil in resigning Scola,Lowry and a Conroy/Temple(either League rookie min or up to the $725thou Bud/Taylor got)
@ $1.2mil for First Rd draftee
Adds up to @ $55mil for 13 players
Assuming Lux Tax declines to @ $68mil that leaves only some $12-14mil for an MLE FA and McGrady.(Or the max contracts the Rockets could take back in a McGrady trade.)
Leaves @ 9-12mil for McGrady.
If Tmac is willing to sign $9-10 million a year, do rocket fans think it is worthwhile for the rockets? Or is it better to try to sign and trade Tmac for another impact player (not necessary superstar but impact player)?
resign tmac? 10 million a year?
You're kidding right?
Re: Tracy McGrady
Posted: Mon Dec 7, 2009 5:13 pm
by Baller 24
Wouldn't be too absurd to think if he returns and plays effective enough. The bigger question is if the organization is going to resign Yao to a max contract or not, especially with a career defining surgery like his.
Re: Tracy McGrady
Posted: Mon Dec 7, 2009 8:08 pm
by SirHuey
you know half of you guys aren't even answering my questions...
Re: Tracy McGrady
Posted: Mon Dec 7, 2009 10:19 pm
by heathmalc
Cleveland sends:
JJ Hickson
Anderson Varejao
ZYdrunas Ilgauskas (with agreement to buy him out so he can retire as a Cavalier)
Danny Green (*Rookie)
2010 1st round draft pick
2012 1st round draft pick
[b]Houston sends:[b]
Tracy McGrady
Landry
Re: Tracy McGrady
Posted: Mon Dec 7, 2009 10:49 pm
by Rendezvous
NO
GO AWAY!
Re: Tracy McGrady
Posted: Mon Dec 7, 2009 11:23 pm
by Guy986
heathmalc wrote:Cleveland sends:
JJ Hickson
Anderson Varejao
ZYdrunas Ilgauskas (with agreement to buy him out so he can retire as a Cavalier)
Danny Green (*Rookie)
2010 1st round draft pick
2012 1st round draft pick
[b]Houston sends:[b]
Tracy McGrady
Landry
GTFO
Re: Tracy McGrady
Posted: Mon Dec 7, 2009 11:54 pm
by rocketsballin
its time to drink
Re: Tracy McGrady
Posted: Tue Dec 8, 2009 12:17 am
by heathmalc
I think a lot of Houston fans are going to be surprised when there aren't very many offers for Tracy.
....But, that's just my opinion, as he has devalued himself over the last two years with his attitude and injuries...not to mention his age and salary.
Re: Tracy McGrady
Posted: Tue Dec 8, 2009 12:28 am
by chyau.00
i doubt tmac would even want to come back
Re: Tracy McGrady
Posted: Tue Dec 8, 2009 1:32 am
by Rendezvous
chyau.00 wrote:i doubt tmac would even want to come back
are you crazy? he's dying to come back
Re: Tracy McGrady
Posted: Tue Dec 8, 2009 4:06 am
by KiDdFrESh
If he plays great and isn't out of the lineup, leads us to the playoffs, and does his playoff thang except we win a series or two than ya I'd re-sign him to a 3 deal worth 30-36 million.
Re: Tracy McGrady
Posted: Tue Dec 8, 2009 1:52 pm
by mackzone
imho that would be too much. full MLE, nothing more.
Re: Tracy McGrady
Posted: Tue Dec 8, 2009 2:12 pm
by Teckon
DumbyTheWizard wrote:tisbee wrote:Thinking about 2010 salaries:
@ $42.8mil w/Hayes
@ $11mil in resigning Scola,Lowry and a Conroy/Temple(either League rookie min or up to the $725thou Bud/Taylor got)
@ $1.2mil for First Rd draftee
Adds up to @ $55mil for 13 players
Assuming Lux Tax declines to @ $68mil that leaves only some $12-14mil for an MLE FA and McGrady.(Or the max contracts the Rockets could take back in a McGrady trade.)
Leaves @ 9-12mil for McGrady.
It doesnt work like this. the cap space you have is not the lux tax minus the payroll but the salary cup minus ths payroll. But all that doesnt matter. Mcgrady played for the Rockets the last 3 years which means he is a Larry Bird FA which means you can pay him whatever you want. If Morey wants, he can give max contracts to Brooks (Also a Bird FA), Scola (same), Landry (..)and T-mac and still have the MLE to sign another player.
He is just giving some ballpark salary range for Tmac should Rocket try to resign him while keeping the total salary under the luxury cap. If rockets continue to believe the current group can be a championship contender, he will be willing to pay luxury tax for it but they have experiment it and no result to show except one 2nd round trip.