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Jordan Hill Mix
Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:37 pm
by Naan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtx-aDxiEeMNo NBA highlights, but as a Knick fan I'll tell you he fights for rebounds and has a decent midrange jumper. On defense, he's lost when he has to rotate and once was seen asking who he has to guard. He sets illegal picks as well. He's only been playing since he was 15 and his work ethic was questioned, but as you'll see in the video, he's determined to succeed. He's raw, but he could probably be like Landry in a few years...if he cuts his damn hair.
Re: Jordan Hill Mix
Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:43 pm
by Rendezvous
Thanks.
Re: Jordan Hill Mix
Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:04 pm
by Naan
DiamondX wrote:Thanks.
No problem. He went to college and played with Chase Budinger as well, so that's an added bonus for Houston.
Re: Jordan Hill Mix
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 8:35 pm
by zonawildcats
Hey guys.
Just wanted to come on board and say you have a ton of new Houston Rockets fans in the Arizona Wildcats nation.
Jordan will be very good for you guys once given the chance. It was obvious his confidence was not there with the Knicks. Having watched him (and chase) for three years I can say the kid can play and will contribute.
Really excited to watch this team as I have been cheering since the start of the season when Chase got drafted.
Good luck the rest of the way.
Bear Down.
Re: Jordan Hill Mix
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:13 pm
by MaxRider
great he can jump
how's his bb iq?
Re: Jordan Hill Mix
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:36 pm
by Knicksick
I was in the minority but I still liked Jordan Hill in his short time with the Knicks. He usually plays with a lot of energy and hustle. He contests shots (although he somehow doesn't come up with blocks often) and he has a very decent midrange jumper. He scored 20points in college so he must have some moves in the low post. I think with the right coaching he can be a 15-18points and 8-10 rebound player. His biggest issue is lack of strength which he can easily fix in the weight room. Another big knock on him are his hands---he constantly fumbles passes,rebounds etc. I personally think it might have been mostly due to nervousness and will be fixed as soon as he gets used to playing.
In a more likely scenario he'll be a 15/8 type of guy with decent defense. The best comparison I can give you is Joe Smith when he played well.
Re: Jordan Hill Mix
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 2:50 am
by M4P
Knicksick wrote:I was in the minority but I still liked Jordan Hill in his short time with the Knicks. He usually plays with a lot of energy and hustle. He contests shots (although he somehow doesn't come up with blocks often) and he has a very decent midrange jumper. He scored 20points in college so he must have some moves in the low post. I think with the right coaching he can be a 15-18points and 8-10 rebound player. His biggest issue is lack of strength which he can easily fix in the weight room. Another big knock on him are his hands---he constantly fumbles passes,rebounds etc. I personally think it might have been mostly due to nervousness and will be fixed as soon as he gets used to playing.
In a more likely scenario he'll be a 15/8 type of guy with decent defense. The best comparison I can give you is Joe Smith when he played well.
How's his post D? Can he put a body on someone or is he gonna be pushed around like a rag-doll?
Re: Jordan Hill Mix
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:50 am
by adjacent2bench
LookyThere wrote:Knicksick wrote:I was in the minority but I still liked Jordan Hill in his short time with the Knicks. He usually plays with a lot of energy and hustle. He contests shots (although he somehow doesn't come up with blocks often) and he has a very decent midrange jumper. He scored 20points in college so he must have some moves in the low post. I think with the right coaching he can be a 15-18points and 8-10 rebound player. His biggest issue is lack of strength which he can easily fix in the weight room. Another big knock on him are his hands---he constantly fumbles passes,rebounds etc. I personally think it might have been mostly due to nervousness and will be fixed as soon as he gets used to playing.
In a more likely scenario he'll be a 15/8 type of guy with decent defense. The best comparison I can give you is Joe Smith when he played well.
How's his post D? Can he put a body on someone or is he gonna be pushed around like a rag-doll?
Let's just say against the Lakers, Gasol had his way with Avi Lee (no D). Had a MUCH tougher time when he was defended by Hill.
But of course, D'Antoni never gave him a chance. Very, VERY raw on offense though. At this point, his main role should just be rebounding and post D. Basically the garbage man.
Re: Jordan Hill Mix
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:38 am
by MSGBallerz
Don't kid urself guys Hill is horrible. I was disappointed when we drafted him but tried my absolute hardest to see the good in his game. But there is no good. I gave him every chance I could and put the homer glasses on and magnified everything he did well on the court and tried to ignore the bad. But even then he still looked horrible. He is despicable.
Re: Jordan Hill Mix
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:10 am
by HTown_TMac
^^ Could it be the coaches? I think with help from our staff.. you will see improvement
Re: Jordan Hill Mix
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:14 am
by jzmagik
MSGBallerz wrote:Don't kid urself guys Hill is horrible. I was disappointed when we drafted him but tried my absolute hardest to see the good in his game. But there is no good. I gave him every chance I could and put the homer glasses on and magnified everything he did well on the court and tried to ignore the bad. But even then he still looked horrible. He is despicable.
Lol all you've done is bash the rockets for the trade, why are you still here?
Re: Jordan Hill Mix
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:36 am
by MSGBallerz
jzmagik wrote:MSGBallerz wrote:Don't kid urself guys Hill is horrible. I was disappointed when we drafted him but tried my absolute hardest to see the good in his game. But there is no good. I gave him every chance I could and put the homer glasses on and magnified everything he did well on the court and tried to ignore the bad. But even then he still looked horrible. He is despicable.
Lol all you've done is bash the rockets for the trade, why are you still here?
Oh i'm not bashing the Rockets, please don't take it that way. Your organization is obviously very smart and knows what they are doing. This has nothing to do with them.
This has to do with me supporting Hill against my gut for the past 8 months and him continually disappointing me and other knicks fans' hearts. Just to keep up appearances as a good fan I tried to always be positive with him when he was on the team while stomaching the garbage he was displaying on the basketball court. I've been waiting to unleash on this guy for a while now and now that he's finally off my team I can take off the gloves.
Re: Jordan Hill Mix
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:03 am
by Zubby
MSGBallerz wrote:
Oh i'm not bashing the Rockets, please don't take it that way. Your organization is obviously very smart and knows what they are doing. This has nothing to do with them.
This has to do with me supporting Hill against my gut for the past 8 months and him continually disappointing me and other knicks fans' hearts. Just to keep up appearances as a good fan I tried to always be positive with him when he was on the team while stomaching the garbage he was displaying on the basketball court. I've been waiting to unleash on this guy for a while now and now that he's finally off my team I can take off the gloves.
You reason has been noted, hose comments would best be serve in a Knick board though, we are not some **** team who has been sulking at the bottom of the League standings for years we'll be fine...
You should probably quit worrying about Hill/JJ and the Rockets, start worrying about what your gonna do if you don't get Bron... scary huh
Re: Jordan Hill Mix
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:13 pm
by moocow007
Hill needs time. Of the handful of minutes Hill received in NY, you can see some flashes of some really good things but overall he struggled getting into any kind of consistency (some of which obviously had to do with the lack of consistent minutes). If you guys are looking for a Charles Oakley or Larry Smith type then you'll be dissappointed as Hill just does not seem to have the mentality to mix it up inside. That said, he's not a softy like Channing Frye and he is without a doubt among the more athletic and agile 6'10"+ guys in the league. He will challenge (and block shots), hit midrange turnarounds, rebound and run the floor. The development work would be to get him more comfortable in the paint which is where he's weak at often rushing to get his shot off when he gets the ball inside. He can get pushed around, not because he's not physically able to hold ground but more because he's just doesn't seem to want to fight for it. Physically, there's no reason why he shouldn't do extremely well in the NBA. Whether he does well or not (given his physical gifts) will depend on his mental toughness and desire (which many Knick fans have questioned).
Re: Jordan Hill Mix
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:39 am
by OooSplendiforous
Look I'll tell you Rockets fans the most accurate description of Hill here. Now I was upset draft day that we passed on Jennings, but as a Knick fan I tried to like the guy and gave him every benefit of the doubt. He is a very nervous player with horrible, I repeat HORRIBLE hands. He'd fumble almost every entry pass in the post, took way to long to deciding what "move" he'd use, and often got pushed around underneath almost never coming away with the rebound. His jumper is really great, he has range with it, but that seems to be his only weapon. There were reports from one of our local journalists Alan Hahn as he watched a Knick practice and i quote "watching Jordan Hill and Darko compete for who puts in the least effort" (it may have differed a bit but thats pretty close). I'd never want anyone to fail, but if he has any chance of ever contributing in the NBA he has a lot of work to do.
Re: Jordan Hill Mix
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:09 pm
by method
Z3snap wrote:You reason has been noted, those comments would best be serve in a Knick board though, we are not some **** team who has been sulking at the bottom of the League standings for years we'll be fine...
You should probably quit worrying about Hill/JJ and the Rockets, start worrying about what your gonna do if you don't get Bron... scary huh
But thanks to you taking JJ we can sign two superstars,THANKS.and gave us a starting point guard and TMAC said he would resign for the vets min.
I know this trade will come down to the off season but I have to thank Morey for putting us in postion to become a dynasty.
Re: Jordan Hill Mix
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:06 am
by grond
OooSplendiforous wrote:Info.
Cheers. Good to know these things.
method wrote:I know this trade will come down to the off season but I have to thank Morey for putting us in postion to become a dynasty.
On behalf of Morey I (aka Daryl the Great), you're welcome.
Don't go winning too many championships now. You know how dynasties kill viewer interest and all.
Re: Jordan Hill Mix
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:57 am
by Zubby
method wrote:But thanks to you taking JJ we can sign two superstars,THANKS.and gave us a starting point guard and TMAC said he would resign for the vets min.
I know this trade will come down to the off season but I have to thank Morey for putting us in postion to become a dynasty.
Gave up any future chance to build through youth for, ONE chance to maybe sign two stars in a couple of months, and you come here to gloat?
Your a braver man than I.
I'd feel a lil bad being a fan of the team, that destined the Knicks to suck for the next decade.
But I guess if it happens, its destiny, huh?
For your sake lets hope that:
Lebron doesn't win this year
All the guys associated with summer FA, DO decide to switch teams
Jay-Z doesn't follow up on his comments in "Empire State of Mind"
Wade doesn't recruit someone to play in MIA
Bosh doesn't prefer Texas to New York
I mean the list could go on with those 3....
But hey you'd still have a shot at J. Johnson & Amare, right?
They got chemistry, they played on that team w/ Steve Nash.... what a great dynasty that was!
but I'm sure you know something the rest of us fans don't know, right?