Lions Tender 7 RFA's

Piston Pete · Post #1 » by **Piston Pete** » Thu Mar 4, 2010 5:38 pm

http://www.freep.com/article/20100304/S ... ree-agents

Get draft pick compensation for:

DE Hunter (2nd round)

S Bullocks (3rd round) - kind of surprised we tendered him....

OL Gandy (4th round)

OG Ramirez (4th round)

S Simpson (4th round)

No pick compensation, but can still match:

OG Loper (surprised we didn't tender higher on him)

DB Hobbs

Liqourish · Post #2 » by **Liqourish** » Thu Mar 4, 2010 5:52 pm

We're probably going to keep Hunter and Simpson. Both did well when they were healthy. They weren't exceptional, but they were good. Jason Hunter was arguably our best D-linemen last year. Which isn't saying alot considering our problems there... but he deserves another chance on an improved line, if he doesn't get an outrageous offer by another team.

Piston Pete · Post #3 » by **Piston Pete** » Thu Mar 4, 2010 6:26 pm

If he (Hunter) gets a decent offer from someone else, let him go and take the 2nd rounder....if not, re-sign him.

Still surprised we used a higher tender on Bullocks than we did with Loper...

Bartender · Post #4 » by **Bartender** » Thu Mar 4, 2010 7:35 pm

You know you have no depth when.....

Post #5 » by **ajaX82** » Thu Mar 4, 2010 7:58 pm

Liqourish wrote:We're probably going to keep Hunter and Simpson. Both did well when they were healthy. They weren't exceptional, but they were good. Jason Hunter was arguably our best D-linemen last year. Which isn't saying alot considering our problems there... but he deserves another chance on an improved line, if he doesn't get an outrageous offer by another team.

Im sorry did you just say Koe Simpson did well last year? Cuz I gotta different impression let me tell ya..

TSE · Post #6 » by **TSE** » Thu Mar 4, 2010 8:44 pm

Hmm surprised that you guys are surprised with the Bullocks tender, he's a good and underrated football player if he is healthy.

Piston Pete · Post #7 » by **Piston Pete** » Thu Mar 4, 2010 8:48 pm

Which is why I'm surprised....when is he healthy?

TSE · Post #8 » by **TSE** » Thu Mar 4, 2010 8:51 pm

Piston Pete wrote:Which is why I'm surprised....when is he healthy?

I don't know, maybe he's healthy now. I don't talk to the guy or his doctor.

Post #9 » by **ajaX82** » Thu Mar 4, 2010 10:46 pm

Will someone explain how the tendering process works?

Piston Pete · Post #10 » by **Piston Pete** » Fri Mar 5, 2010 4:34 am

Makes them restricted free agents. We have the ability to match offers....

If we decide not to match, we get a draft pick as compensation for losing some players. Others (Loper, Hobbs) we do not. The more money you tender the player determines what kind of compensation (if any) we get.

Bartender · Post #11 » by **Bartender** » Fri Mar 5, 2010 7:37 am

ajaX82 wrote:Will someone explain how the tendering process works?

I think there are 4 different tenders you can put on a restricted free agent.
1st and a 3rd... being the highest
1st
2nd
3rd

What is basically is... let's put it this way. Saints placed a 2nd round tender on Pierre Thomas. Mayhew can approach Pierre and talk contracts with him, and say Mayhew offered him a contract and NO refuses to outbid us, we owe the Saints our original 2nd round draft pick.

So in a nut shell, teams that are in the lower half of the rounds have it easier to get tendered players cuz it don't matter how high the draft pick is, as long as it's in that round. Like Brandon Marshall... he got placed with a 1st round tender. If we offered him a contract and we won him, we owe Denver our #2 overall pick. Now, if the Saints offered him a contract and they won him, they owe their #32 overall pick.

Get it?

Post #12 » by **ajaX82** » Fri Mar 5, 2010 3:10 pm

Bartender wrote:
ajaX82 wrote:Will someone explain how the tendering process works?

I think there are 4 different tenders you can put on a restricted free agent.
1st and a 3rd... being the highest
1st
2nd
3rd

What is basically is... let's put it this way. Saints placed a 2nd round tender on Pierre Thomas. Mayhew can approach Pierre and talk contracts with him, and say Mayhew offered him a contract and NO refuses to outbid us, we owe the Saints our original 2nd round draft pick.

So in a nut shell, teams that are in the lower half of the rounds have it easier to get tendered players cuz it don't matter how high the draft pick is, as long as it's in that round. Like Brandon Marshall... he got placed with a 1st round tender. If we offered him a contract and we won him, we owe Denver our #2 overall pick. Now, if the Saints offered him a contract and they won him, they owe their #32 overall pick.

Get it?

Yes i do. Thank you.

Is there a limit of each kind of tender? Or could we say put a first round tender on all our RFAs?? Or do we plan it accordingly so that its enticing and maybe someone bites on Bullocks and we score a third rounder from them?

Bartender · Post #13 » by **Bartender** » Fri Mar 5, 2010 3:28 pm

Umm, for each tender you put on a player, you owe that player a certain amount of money. I think the high tender of a 1st and a 3rd, you owe that player 2.6 million dollars or something like that. And if you tender a player, there's a part of you that wants a team to bite on it.... so putting a 1st on someone like Ramirez would be stupid cuz you're paying him all that extra cash when nobody will even give a 3rd for him.

Liqourish · Post #14 » by **Liqourish** » Fri Mar 5, 2010 4:02 pm

Most of our RFAs won't return IMO. I doubt the Lions even want most of them, just hoping to get compensation when they sign somewhere else.

Post #15 » by **ajaX82** » Fri Mar 5, 2010 4:34 pm

Bartender wrote:Umm, for each tender you put on a player, you owe that player a certain amount of money. I think the high tender of a 1st and a 3rd, you owe that player 2.6 million dollars or something like that. And if you tender a player, there's a part of you that wants a team to bite on it.... so putting a 1st on someone like Ramirez would be stupid cuz you're paying him all that extra cash when nobody will even give a 3rd for him.

ohhh its tied to money owed. Thank you, thats what i needed to know