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Which team is better? 

Post#1 » by kellmellus50 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:26 pm

Who's the better team and why ? does anyone know ?

Detroit lions Points For 126 VS Points against 112 record 1 win -4 losses

Arizonia Cardinals PF 88 VS PA 138 record 3 -wins -2 losses

Who will end up at end of year with a better record ?

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Re: Which team is better? 

Post#2 » by TSE » Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:36 pm

I think our roster has more potential with it if we used it right or traded it around correctly. Your first question of "better" team is a hard one to figure out since I don't know what you define as "better". To me, "better" wouldn't be who is best right at this second, cause right now Stafford is hurt, rather I look at a state of the franchise when I choose who I think is better, and that looks at today, tomorrow, and next year and beyond and then I pick the team that has the best total outlook as the "better" team unless one team had a very significant "better" rating for the short-term. To me football is an infinite life or cycle and every team is a perpetual entity so to just look at which entity is going to have the best week or the best year is a rather immaterial question to look at regarding the entity's existence. i.e. if a genie asked you to accept an 0-16 team this year in exchange for 5 straight SBs, wouldn't you take that as being a great deal? Well if you then ask a question in the first year of who is the best team, then perceptions are skewed if you count the 0-16 as the worst, especially if after the 16 games are played, cause the reality is that team might be about to go on a 100 game winning streak, and the losses aren't relevant to describe the team's quality.

Going forward I think the Cardinals are better off, because they have a shot right now at having a QB that plays for super cheap, and to have that is a MASSIVE advantage cause that money is freed up for other positions down the road. And they don't have any huge massive dollars in a young guy like we do with Stafford that still could bust out, so that risk aversion is smart on their end. It won't matter if Stafford becomes great, but right now we don't know that for sure and that is a BIG opportunity for us to get burned really bad. If/when Stafford pans out, then we take a big step ahead of them as that risk portfolio would fall off our expected value as a team giving us a much better outlook. But I guess your question is only about this year so back on track still AZ cause they have 2 wins more than us, so it's unlikely that we will catch them. But if I had to pick one team to win on a neutral field today, I might pick the Lions cause Shaun Hill is a vet and settled in somewhat and Max Hall could be a complete flop in his next game, so I'd have to gamble on the Lions in the question of who is the better team in that sense. And I'd rather play with an unproven Stafford more than the proven Shaun Hill, so if he was healthy then I say our advantage in that comparison is even greater.
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Re: Which team is better? 

Post#3 » by chrbal » Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:52 pm

The Cardinals started the year off with Derek Anderson as their best option at QB. DEREK ANDERSON.

The Lions are better.
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Post#4 » by TSE » Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:43 am

That's only cause they are really dumb and would actually choose a proven veteran unspectacular QB over a young guy that still hasn't proven that he won't be a star. Kind of like how the Lions are operating with allowing Shaun Hill to take a roster spot. I don't see how having him on the roster and playing in games would have improved our SB chances by any significant degree that outweighs the value of having a prospect have the roster spot and the playing time.
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Re: Which team is better? 

Post#5 » by kellmellus50 » Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:33 am

By the end of the season the lions will have a better record than Arizona.One of the differances between the 2 teams is Arizonia knows how to win close games the lions are still learning .
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Re: Which team is better? 

Post#6 » by motorcity15 » Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:34 pm

ARI didn't even score an offensive touchdown and i doubt they really believe in Max Hal, were more balanced on offensel...... Were opposites when you talk about the franchise, they're on the decline and were on the rise
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Post#7 » by TSE » Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:34 pm

Arizona has a winning record without even having a QB on the team in a sense. That's a pretty good accomplishment considering they are not usually a winning football team, so it's hard to say they are on the decline when they were never at the top or a high spot to begin with. They could be a really dangerous team after a few good trades or one good offseason. And they scored an offensive TD last week, didn't you see the fumble advancement that Levi Brown scooped up when Max Hall got jacked up? :wink:
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Re: Which team is better? 

Post#8 » by TSE » Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:37 pm

kellmellus50 wrote:By the end of the season the lions will have a better record than Arizona.One of the differances between the 2 teams is Arizonia knows how to win close games the lions are still learning .


Pretty bold prediction, we would have to win 3 games plus however many Arizona wins in their remaining games, that's a heavy statistical longshot, if you are betting any friends, make sure they give you big odds on that!
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Re: Which team is better? 

Post#9 » by motorcity15 » Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:43 pm

They're a playoff team and probably will be one this year but they reached their high ..... But with loosing Warner and not having a proven and consistent running they can only be on the decline
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Post#10 » by TSE » Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:36 pm

motorcity15 wrote:They're a playoff team and probably will be one this year but they reached their high ..... But with loosing Warner and not having a proven and consistent running they can only be on the decline


Being a playoff team in this league of terribly mismanaged teams isn't special, being on top is the only thing that counts, but now that they don't have Warner, they could possibly find a QB solution for much cheaper, which gives them the chance to elevate higher once they restore their status of having a viable QB.
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Re: Which team is better? 

Post#11 » by motorcity15 » Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:45 pm

Exactly , i agree with you ...until they find a solution at QB they'll be on the decline. Im just saying they regressed this year while we improved. And they were in the spotlight after reaching the super bowl so it can only get worse from there. There defense is solid but its not going to score as much as it did last week every week.
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Post#12 » by TSE » Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:50 pm

Yeah indeed.

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