2010 Draft prospects

TSE · Post #21 » by **TSE** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:14 pm

Interesting suggestions indeed and I am also hoping we sign some good FA talent for once. I also like that we have Stanton who has great mobility who could really offer some gadget plays for us. If we ever come around to actually letting him help out, he is a weapon that can help the team.

Post #22 » by **ajaX82** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:05 pm

If we are talking about the wildcat, a name that gets forgotten is Derrick Williams, who i believe could run it. Remember he played some QB at Penn St. for a while, as well as RB and WR. The kid is just an athlete. if he retained some of his throwing skills (unknown), than he could take snaps and be quite a threat.

I always thought he would be a good fit for it. I wish we would try it

Bartender · Post #23 » by **Bartender** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 11:37 pm

Seems like Schwartz is a little to old fashioned for it though. He's a heavy gut runner so idk if he has the correct knowledge to run it. I wish though. I honestly think out o-line is built for it. Although our o-line is not dominant, they are athletic. We don't have any fatty tub of lard on our line besides Stephen Peterman but the rest are all pretty mobile. That's what you need for the wildcat. I wish we would have taken a gamble on Vick and ran it with him.

Keys to wildcat success:
1. Playmaking WR who has turbo speed. (Calvin Johnson)
2. RB/WR that can run QB. (Derrick Williams or Mike Vick)
3. Cannon arm QB to come in and switch it up. (Matt Stafford)
4. Athletic O-Line. (Backus / Goster / Raiola)
5. Speedy back-up RB behind a power back. (Maurice Morris)

We have all the keys to success, just not the right coaching personnel. Ricky Williams is also a big part of why it works so good in Miami... but they are missing the cannon arm and the big time playmaking receiver.

Post #24 » by **ajaX82** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:06 pm

^ I'd say a better backup RB with speed is Aaron Brown as opposed to Morris.

Bartender · Post #25 » by **Bartender** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:31 pm

whichever. lol

kellmellus50 · Post #26 » by **kellmellus50** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:38 pm

Lions draft since 2000

40 defense
12 DL's
14 DB's
14 LB's

38 Offense
11 OL's
5 QB's
4 TE's
9 WR's

They have drafted DL and OL people. Unfortunately....not the right ones

TSE · Post #27 » by **TSE** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:15 am

The biggest stat is that I have disagreed with the vast majority of their picks over the last 5 years due to poor logic. That's the problem.

Post #28 » by **Icness** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:40 pm

1st round has to be the BPA from the following positions, in no order:
CB
DE
DT
OT

The offensive skill positions are fine enough, and with Levy looking good and Peterson/Foote still around the LBs are fine.

Post #29 » by **ajaX82** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:55 pm

Icness wrote:1st round has to be the BPA from the following positions, in no order:
CB
DE
DT
OT

The offensive skill positions are fine enough, and with Levy looking good and Peterson/Foote still around the LBs are fine.

I dont think anyone will argue with you there... I would say rounds 1-3 need to be drafting at those positions

Bartender · Post #30 » by **Bartender** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:28 pm

OL or DL has to be the first round. Good ones are a dime a dozen in drafts. DB's are easy to come by as long as they show semi good instinct and are fast.

Post #31 » by **ajaX82** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:43 pm

Bartender wrote:OL or DL has to be the first round. Good ones are a dime a dozen in drafts. DB's are easy to come by as long as they show semi good instinct and are fast.

I would probably agree. And realistically i think we need to go DT first if possible.

Suh from Nebraska or McCoy from Oklahoma are the two to target. Both are beasts and fill a huge need.

And i know he isnt a CB, but Eric Berry is a thought to pair with Delmas maybe. That safety tandem would be destructive.

Bartender · Post #32 » by **Bartender** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:47 pm

I agree with DL first because getting a DL in free agency would cost us a fortune. Makes me happy we didn't get Haynesworth. Our compliment safety needs to be a good to great coverage safety. That's what would compliment Louis the best. Suh or McCoy would be heaven to have though.

Bartender · Post #33 » by **Bartender** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:50 pm

And people are probable going to hate me for this, but I would like to draft Tim Tebow in a later round if possible just because I want the Lions to use the wildcat offense and he'd be perfect for that. I'd be down to dump Stanton if it means Tebow would come in for wildcat uses.

Bartender · Post #34 » by **Bartender** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:07 pm

And Lions won't get Ndamukong Suh unless we continue to lose out. He will be a top 2 pick. St. Louis or Tennessee will get the top pick and St. Louis will draft a QB more than likely but Suh is definitely the best player in the draft. The guy loves the football and is always where it is.

I doubt we'll get him

Liqourish · Post #35 » by **Liqourish** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:02 pm

We'll most likely end up with a top 5 pick. Suh could go anywhere from 2-6. I don't see him getting past us though. At least I hope not.

The Lions have MAYBE two more games they can win. Against St. Louis and Cleveland. But if Stafford/Johnson aren't ready after the Bye and St. Louis is on pace to see 0-18, I could see the Rams beating the Lions.

No team is going to go 0-16 this season. Detroit with 2 or maybe 3 wins should be top 5 maybe even top 3 in the draft.

DL is our biggest weakest. We have alot of holes and need alot of upgrades, but some areas are worse than others, DL is the WORST, especially our tackles.

Post #36 » by **ajaX82** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:06 pm

Bartender wrote:And Lions won't get Ndamukong Suh unless we continue to lose out. He will be a top 2 pick. St. Louis or Tennessee will get the top pick and St. Louis will draft a QB more than likely but Suh is definitely the best player in the draft. The guy loves the football and is always where it is.

I doubt we'll get him

I do agree here that i dont think he is on the boardw when we pick regardless. At this point, if he is, we should grab him.

But from what i have read McCoy is certainly a worthy consolation prize. Some sites have him ranked higher than Suh even. Either one would make me thrilled.

Post #37 » by **ajaX82** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:08 pm

Bartender wrote:And people are probable going to hate me for this, but I would like to draft Tim Tebow in a later round if possible just because I want the Lions to use the wildcat offense and he'd be perfect for that. I'd be down to dump Stanton if it means Tebow would come in for wildcat uses.

Ugh, absolutely not. Tebow has no shot at an NFL QB gig in any form. Dude is a gadget and/or Tight End/ H-back. I am not a fan of him at all and im willing some moronic team spends a late first, easly second on him.

No thanks

Bartender · Post #38 » by **Bartender** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:21 pm

But... he is a wildcat QB genius and we WERE talking about getting a wildcat going. I would spend a 4th on him. That's why I said a late round if he's still there.

TSE · Post #39 » by **TSE** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:33 pm

I would actually not be afraid to use a pick on Tebow, in the right situation. But our team is not going to be in a proper situation to use a pick on him. Theoretically if we would have done things differently in the draft last year and FA as well as various trading decisions, Tebow could have been a logical target in this draft, but that is now not a realistic course of action as we did not accomplish anywhere remotely close to any headway in cutting down the quantity of our needs. That was our #1 most important objective for this entire season, and we didn't cut the fat, we just brushed it under the rug, and now it's going to take 1 additional year for us to transform into a winner.

In a nutshell, we voluntarily chose to hit the pause button and left it frozen for an entire calendar year. We should have turned the pause off a little over 400 days ago, and played the game in such a way to further the process of a proper transformation. We are STILL in cryonic suspension, and my biggest fear is that we will NOT choose to end the suspension until AT LEAST the first day that trades open up next year. Add all of that time to our present tally of total consecutive days of hibernation.

TSE · Post #40 » by **TSE** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:52 pm

By the way Murtha is gone. The Dolphins decided to give him a job. Unbelievable. We have 2 useless journeymen OTs on our roster that could have been replaced by Murtha and Meredith, and now we have neither. This just decreases our ability to focus on defense next year, not at all the position we should have set ourselves up for. I'm very disappointed in the Lions handling of this situation.