2010 Free Agents

Post #81 » by **ajaX82** » Sat Jan 30, 2010 5:54 pm

Yeah Boldin is perfect for us. First you can no longer double or triple CJ because of him. And if still do than Boldin and Pettigrew are going to be running wild. Second he is a good foil for him. CJ is a big fast guy who goes for the big plays and the leaping catches. Boldin is a pitbull who runs the short routes and than goes to kill who is in his way. Third Stafford has all the weapons he would need to be successful. No excuses now (other than the line trying to get him killed). With Boldin underneath, Pettigrew up the middle and CJ deep....he should be able to light it up big time. And if Aaron Brown kept progressing and got great in the pass game outta the backfield....im not sure another team would have this kinda offensive firepower other than NO or Indy.

Boldin would be stellar

Liqourish · Post #82 » by **Liqourish** » Sat Jan 30, 2010 7:06 pm

^ +1

Kevin Smith actually played a little in the passing game with Stafford in the Cleveland game and did well. I was hoping we'd see more of that this year but with his status uncertain, I'd like to see Brown in that role.

But Bolidn should be high on the Lions wishlist.

TSE · Post #83 » by **TSE** » Sat Jan 30, 2010 7:49 pm

Our team is in disarray for the long-term. We need to get younger and cheaper and clean up our mess and not mess around with expensive vets while we are trying to bail out the water in our sloppily built boat. We need to right the ship first, and THEN attack.

Bartender · Post #84 » by **Bartender** » Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:03 pm

How do you expect to win if you want to get younger and cheaper? You can't cuz then everyone you would bring in would be project players. Lions have had enough project players in the last 10 years. I think it's time we start going for players that have produced already. Once that happens, we'll start winning more and more and more big time FA's will want to sign with us.

Plus, we already have the 2nd lowest payroll in the NFL as it is.

TSE · Post #85 » by **TSE** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:38 am

Cause I would get better and for longer by going younger and cheaper today.

Piston Pete · Post #86 » by **Piston Pete** » Mon Feb 1, 2010 3:50 am

Sorry, I disagree on Boldin.

We need to build the team up correctly. Throwing picks that should be used to improve the team, and slary that we should be spending to upgrade other areas of the team on another WR just seems like something Millen would do.

It doesn't matter if Indy would trade us Reggie Wayne for our 2nd rounder, we still need to upgrade our offensive line - to give Stafford time to throw to his recievers.....

With the salary needed to get BOldin, we could sign 2 good free agents. Rather do that.

Not saying Boldin wouldn't be nice. I agree, he'd actually be adeal opposite CJ....but #2 reciever is way down the priority list for me - below offensive line, defensive line, secondary, and running back NEEDS.

Bartender · Post #87 » by **Bartender** » Mon Feb 1, 2010 4:43 am

Personally, I think a number 2 WR is more important then a RB. Morris and Aaron Brown are adequate to use if we have no other choice. Getting Calvin an eraser is just as important as upgrading our OLine. Aaron Rogers and Ben Roethlisburger are two examples of QB's that have tremendous stats that have just as bad OLine's as Detroit. Them two QB's have something Stafford don't, however... and that's targets. They have targets.... and there best targets aren't double and triple teamed constantly like Calvin is. Greg Jennings has Donald Driver. Hines Ward has Santonio Holmes and Mike Wallace. Calvin Johnson has nobody. Anquan Boldin would be PERFECT for the development of Stafford and CJ.

And salary isn't a problem. Ford said he's willing to spend and we already have the 2nd lowest pay roll in the NFL.

Liqourish · Post #88 » by **Liqourish** » Mon Feb 1, 2010 1:24 pm

^ I agree with Bar. We need someone to counter Calvin. It doesn't matter how much time Matt has to throw when he has no one to throw to. When Calvin is drapped with guys, we have no one that can catch the ball consistently.

We need another receiver to not only help Calvin but also Stafford. Matt has said it before and I agree entirely, if he has someone he can throw to quickly, he can get the shots off. But when he has to wait for a play to develop because his only option is not available, that's when the team suffers.

I actually think #2 WR is just below DT and CB in terms of priorities.

Piston Pete · Post #89 » by **Piston Pete** » Mon Feb 1, 2010 1:47 pm

I agree #2 reciever is a need - just not sure we need one as good or expensive (both in salary and in what it would take to get him) as Boldin.

The draft will have quite a few good WRs, and even free agency will give us some options....

All I'm saying is that Boldin may not be our best option...

Bartender · Post #90 » by **Bartender** » Mon Feb 1, 2010 3:26 pm

Boldin will be the most expensive option, but it'll be cheap for us to get. It's like like we are going to be paying an arm and a leg for him. Yeah, we'll have another big payroll, but it'll only cost us a 2nd or 3rd rounder to get. Would you rather have Golden Tate in the 2nd round or Anquan Boldin in the 2nd round? That's basically how you have to look at it.

Liqourish · Post #91 » by **Liqourish** » Mon Feb 1, 2010 4:00 pm

Golden Tate is going late first round.

Liqourish · Post #92 » by **Liqourish** » Mon Feb 1, 2010 5:05 pm

Julius Peppers appears to be done in Carolina. Dunno what he's asking for but I hope the Lions at least show intrest. According to Peppers himself, no team is out of the running.

Bartender · Post #93 » by **Bartender** » Mon Feb 1, 2010 10:13 pm

I have mixed feelings on Peppers. He'll be asking for a sh*t load of money and I think we'd save millions by going for Kampman.

Liqourish · Post #94 » by **Liqourish** » Wed Feb 3, 2010 12:18 pm

Rams were very interested in Michael Vick but apparently the Eagles want to keep him around. Seems the Rams are losing out on every stopgap QB they think they have available to them so they won't have to draft one. Which is great for us. The more desperate they are for a QB, the better our chances of getting Suh.

Piston Pete · Post #95 » by **Piston Pete** » Thu Feb 4, 2010 9:25 pm

Carolina says they won't franchise Peppers - so he's likely open to whoever wants him most....

Maybe we need to trade the Rams Grady Jackson and/or Andre Fluellen....

Piston Pete · Post #96 » by **Piston Pete** » Tue Feb 9, 2010 4:58 pm

One exception to having no cap that might help the Lions....

The top 8 teams (playoff teams) are only allowed to sign free agents at the rate they lose them.

With all the restricted free agents, these teams might be going a long time before any of them sign to another team, if at all....so the top 8 teams could have their hands tied for most of the free agent signing period....

Bartender · Post #97 » by **Bartender** » Wed Feb 10, 2010 1:23 am

That doesn't really help the Lions. It helps Washington and Oakland... two teams that have no problem overpaying players. The only thing that will help the Lions this off season is teams will be cutting a lot of good players that are paid too much.

Liqourish · Post #98 » by **Liqourish** » Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:03 pm

Donte Stallworth is working out for the Lions. He was the player who killed the pedestrian when he was drunk. He was suspended for all of last year but was reinstated a couple days ago and the Browns released him. I don't condone DUIs, but he took responsibility from the beginning, did his time, made his peace with the family and I believe deserves a second chance.

I wouldn't sign him to a long term deal, but he does have something to prove and if he wants to have a good year, stay out of trouble and increase his value around the league..... why not in Detroit? It's not Boldin, but he could be a very good #2 WR opposite Calvin who can actually catch the damn ball. I saw sign him to an ungauranteed two year deal with incentives and let him prove his worth.

Piston Pete · Post #99 » by **Piston Pete** » Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:23 pm

Wasn't his production slipping even before the year-long suspension?? Not sure I want to tab him as our #2 WR.

Rather go after Antonio Bryant....

Bartender · Post #100 » by **Bartender** » Wed Feb 10, 2010 4:43 pm

Piston Pete wrote:Wasn't his production slipping even before the year-long suspension?? Not sure I want to tab him as our #2 WR.

Rather go after Antonio Bryant....

Talk about production slipping. Antonio Bryant is the guy that can't walk down the stairs without getting injured. Antonio Bryant is the guy that played for 5 different teams in 8 years because his attitude is uncoachable. Antonio Bryant is going to be asking for a lot more money then I would EVER want to pay him.

Donte's agent said he's in the best shape he's ever been in, and if that's true, he would be amazing to have since he's always been one of the fastest guys in the NFL. He would be extremely cheap, and worth a 1 or 2 year contract. Even if he isn't what he used to be, he would atleast suffice as our #3 WR.