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Nicknamed “The Sanchize,” Sanchez went 12 of 15 for 182 yards, becoming the fourth rookie quarterback since 1950 to start and win a playoff game. Considered the Jets’ weakest link heading into the playoffs, he became their focal point

Just think detroit could have drafted Mark Sanchize and i wonder what his record would be.

The Jets are undefeated when Sanchez throws less the 20 passes. They only won 2 times when he throws over 20 passes. Only way we would be able to win with Sanchez is if we have a world class OLine and a group of runningbacks that can carry the entire work load on offense.

This does not make me believe that Stafford is worse then Sanchez. This actually makes me happy that we got Stafford over Sanchez. Mark is just solidifying the fact that wins under a QB is a pointless statistic cuz it don't mean ****. Fact is, if Stafford was in New York Green, he would be a pro bowler. I can't even begin to imagine how good Stafford could be with an OLine and rushing attack that NY has.

Sanchez looked pretty darn good in that game. I would say he deserves a big load of credit. He has an exciting future ahead of him.

absurd

The Jets are the #1 team in the NFL in rush offense. Sanchez was sacked twice more than Stafford...in 5 more games. Stafford also threw one more touchdown in the 5 less games. Yards/Game was also quite in Matts favor. Point in case: In the playoff game you are referring to they ran the ball 38 times and he wasnt sacked once. Its relevant

The Jets run run run the rock. and they do it well. they also protect Sanchez. And they have the #1 D in the NFL. Stafford has the worst D of all time and a sieve of an o-line.

Honestly, thinking Sanchez would be more succesful here is ridiculous. Watch some games before you make silly statements

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Bartender wrote:I love ajaX. Wanna marry me boo?

Im down. honeymoon better be someplace warm

Let's face it the lions need to draft or pick up another vet QB to compete for starting QB with stafford also when staffort gets injured we need someone to play and win games.
Culpepper needs to be released and stanton needs to improve in order to stay on the team as a 3rd QB..

We need a Qb like in the Arizona-GreenBay game that throws for 400-500 yards per game.
Also Kevin smith is not the answer at running back he stops or hesitates before he hits the hole. Morris is a better running back.

Can we get this thread locked since it's non Lions related propaganda?

I preferred Sanchez to Stafford but honestly I thought Stafford was just as good throughout the season. Given the fact the Jets have the best OL in the league by a wide margin and they have a great running game, Stafford probably would have put up HUGE numbers in NYJ. Stafford is better at throwing a deep ball and at staying with his primary route read. That's not a knock on Sanchez either because I think he played very well as a rookie.

Stafford needs a better QB coach and a better veteran mentor than Daunte. I'd love to see Chad Pennington or Kerry Collins brought in as the #2 and a teacher. Doubt it happens though because they'll cost too much.

I think both rookie QBs made big mistakes and showed incredible poise. There is two big difference IMO.

1. Talent level of the players- I still maintain that Stafford hss incredibly more talent and arm strength than Sanchez. There is a reason the Jets tried to hide their QB in their offense.

2. The surrounding team- Jets have the best defense in the NFL and a very good O-line with great blocking for a run game. Stafford had Calvin Johnson, whatever Kevin Smith could pull off and a prayer that the defense would hold up long enough for a victory.

Switch the players on their respective teams and Stafford would be lights out his rookie season and Sanchez would be even worse than he was.

However, they both have alot of upside. They both will get incredibly better.

Lastly, changing the title of the thread doesn't make it Lions related.

ajaX82 wrote:

Bartender wrote:I love ajaX. Wanna marry me boo?

Im down. honeymoon better be someplace warm

Africa?

Liqurish your not a Mod so quit acting like one! you don't make the rules.And bartender this is not a sex fourm .Keep to the topic.

no wonder no one talks on the lions fourm anymore!

Icness wrote:I preferred Sanchez to Stafford but honestly I thought Stafford was just as good throughout the season. Given the fact the Jets have the best OL in the league by a wide margin and they have a great running game, Stafford probably would have put up HUGE numbers in NYJ. Stafford is better at throwing a deep ball and at staying with his primary route read. That's not a knock on Sanchez either because I think he played very well as a rookie.

Stafford needs a better QB coach and a better veteran mentor than Daunte. I'd love to see Chad Pennington or Kerry Collins brought in as the #2 and a teacher. Doubt it happens though because they'll cost too much.

Good post and interesting point, I guess we'll never know what they would do if flip-flopped. You are darn right about the QB coach and Daunte. Having those guys around is most likely just going to screw him up. Every hint that I could pick up of trying to figure out how the coaching influence can be seen manifested into his game just made the coaching adjustments look like they were retarding his skill and not let him develop it. And I will disagree that Stafford looked good, at any point. He was flat out abysmal all year long and to complement him or give him praise in any way is undeserved and unfair and unwarranted. Hopefully the Lions will stumble into a trade offer for him and bite, so that's all I can do for now. I have no major problem with taking a chance on Stafford as my franchise QB, but I don't like the way he is managed so that would have to be changed, and I'm not going into the future with him as my QB as my intended course of plan, only as my backup plan.

kellmellus50 wrote:Liqurish your not a Mod so quit acting like one! you don't make the rules.And bartender this is not a sex fourm .Keep to the topic.

no wonder no one talks on the lions fourm anymore!

Im not going to lock this, though tempted, so long as the conversation stays positive and worthwhile. Though it probably could have gone in the "around the league" thread...

Liq: i will lock it if needed, but ignore the thread if you are so inclined.

Kell: Your not a mod either so kindly let me moderate. And i think Bartender was kidding...im not sure how a joking question of marrying me makes this a "sex forum." lets not overreact.


Back to Stafford....Ice said what i more or less did earlier. Sanchez's oline, run game and D take the pressure off immensely. Ditto on the mentor role that i hope we can aquire. A competent backup and someone to actually teach Matt thinks instead of bitching would be quite the relief.

Stafford vs. Sanchez
Category Stafford Sanchez
Attempts 377 364
Comp. 201 196
Yards 2,267 2,444
Cmp. % 53.3 53.8
TDs 13 12
INT 20 20
Rating 61.0 63.0

Final totals Sanchez has better yards and QB rating thats the end of the story for the season.

Sanchez played more games. Stafford averaged more yds per game, while the Jets were trying to hide their god awful QB.

Despite playing fewer games, Stafford averaged more yards per game, had more touchdowns, had more completions, and throw longer passes instead of short fade routes like you know who.

That's the end of story on this fabricated discussion.

Lest anyone in Detroit has forgotten, Mark Sanchez is the quarterback the Lions ignored when they selected Matthew Stafford first off the board on draft day last April.

And I can here the howls now: "The Lions drafted the wrong guy. Again."

AFC playoffs: Jets 17, Chargers 14
Mark Sanchez, Shonn Greene lead Jets to shocker over Chargers
Associated Press
San Diego -- New York is halfway toward that Super Bowl parade promised by coach Rex Ryan after rookies Mark Sanchez and Shonn Greene led the Jets to a stunning 17-14 upset of the San Diego Chargers in the divisional playoffs Sunday.

Sanchez threw a go-ahead, 2-yard touchdown pass to tight end Dustin Keller three plays into the fourth quarter, then Greene gave the Jets some breathing room with a 53-yard scoring run on their next possession.


Read more: http://www.detnews.com/article/20100116 ... z0cvlPjEUm

The upstart Jets (11-7), who have won seven of their last eight games, advanced to the AFC championship game at top-seeded Indianapolis next Sunday



Read more: http://www.detnews.com/article/20100117 ... z0cvksFqOc

You may have forgotten this part of the article to quote (from the above linked article)

And now out here on the limb, I claim that in 10 years time, Matthew Stafford will prove to be the best quarterback selected in 2009 NFL draft, that the Lions made the smarter pick.

Quite simply, Stan Humphries once made it as a quarterback to the Super Bowl; Vince Ferragamo nearly outdueled Terry Bradshaw in a Super Bowl; Doug Williams out-performed and defeated John Elway in a Super Bowl; Jeff Hostetler once won a Super Bowl. The list of mediocre quarterbacks who played in, and sometimes won, Super Bowls is lengthy. All of them simply managed to play quarterback on teams with strong defenses and strong offensive lines.

Sanchez had the good fortune to land on a team with fewer flaws than Stafford's.

im just saying

LMAO@ that article as his source to claim that we should have picked Sanchez over Stafford, but left the part of the article that says Stafford is better out.

Wow, can this person be banned, please?!

What are you guys going to say if Mark Sanchez wins the superbowl ? It could happen? then will you say the lions picked the wrong guy?

P.s. I can't wait 10 years for a quarterback to develope.....ARE YOU KIDDING ME !!!

Quote: ...(And now out here on the limb, I claim that in 10 years time, Matthew Stafford will prove to be the best quarterback selected in 2009 NFL draft, that the Lions made the smarter pick ).