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Al Harris/Kampman out for year (torn ACL)

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Re: Al Harris/Kampman out for year (torn ACL) 

Post#41 » by Captain Erv » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:52 pm

GrendonJennings wrote:
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MadCityBucky wrote:Is Pat Lee still injured, I don't ever remember seeing this kid but I believe he got injured in preseason or something.

Jarret Bush is Jarret Bush and I don't think Underwood has enough experience/talent to be a good nickle back.

Are there any veteran CB's available? If only the Packers signed McCallister before the Saints.


Lee was put on IR prior to the start of the season after getting injured in the final pre-season game. Another injury-prone draft pick by TT that has contributed nothing in his tenure. We are going to be stuck with Bush, Underwood, and probably some nobody from Northeastern Tech Community College that TT will sign to replace Harris on the roster.


Didn't you watch their game vs. Central Valley Rhode Island State of Technology and Arts Institute yesterday? They are a national powerhouse.


No, I was too busy watching Southwestern Idaho State vs Northern Idaho A&M.

Classic rivalry.
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Re: Al Harris/Kampman out for year (torn ACL) 

Post#42 » by Wade-A-Holic » Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:24 am

DrugBust wrote:This means the team is likely going to have to hit on both CB and LT next April as there won't be a free agent worth a ****. Might mean having to deal a future #1.

At this point I'd be fine with taking Bulaga at #20 and dealing back into round one to get Robinson. They're going to need two starters there.


You're right about the free agents. This pretty much sums up the steaming pile that is 2010 free agency if indeed uncapped, which it looks like it will be.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d ... nfirm=true

The tackle I really have my eyes on is Charles Brown from USC. I hope we can grab him in the first round and if we're targeting tackle and corner in the 1st and 2nd, we'll need a few juniors to enter the draft at corner for there to be justifiable value in the 2nd. I like Lindley and Kyle Wilson from Boise State.
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Re: Al Harris/Kampman out for year (torn ACL) 

Post#43 » by BucksRuleAll22 » Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:34 pm

Ok Kampman is not a loss. He was out of place as a LB and the Packers took one of the best DE in the NFL and made him a average OLB at best. Harris is solid but Tramon Williams steped in last season and played great and Williams proved he is a very solid starting DB in the NFL.

Bisop and Williams need to start and I will argue that Bisop can play better LB then Kampman, and Williams adds another playmaker on defense.

The only bad thing will be if Bush sees time because any team that throws his way will get a easy TD since he one of the worst players ever.
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Re: Al Harris/Kampman out for year (torn ACL) 

Post#44 » by Wade-A-Holic » Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:36 pm

Kampman was miscast in this defense, but Bishop is not going to be the beneficiary of his injury. It'll be Brad Jones, who I liked a lot in the Dallas game, and Poppinga. I would like to see them get Bishop on the field some more as well, but I doubt it will be at outside linebacker. Tramon is okay, but like you said, it's what's behind him that isn't. Bush shouldn't be on a team and Underwood should be a practice squad player.
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Re: Al Harris/Kampman out for year (torn ACL) 

Post#45 » by BucksRuleAll22 » Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:48 pm

When Harris went down last year Tramon Williams played as good or better then Al Harris so we are not losing anything but depth here. I just dont want to see Bush play bc only bad things will happen.
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Re: Al Harris/Kampman out for year (torn ACL) 

Post#46 » by Ayt » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:13 pm

BucksRuleAll22 wrote:When Harris went down last year Tramon Williams played as good or better then Al Harris so we are not losing anything but depth here. I just dont want to see Bush play bc only bad things will happen.


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Re: Al Harris/Kampman out for year (torn ACL) 

Post#47 » by BucksRuleAll22 » Wed Nov 25, 2009 7:53 am

Explain to me what Tramon Williams did bad last year when he started? I dont remember the exact amount of game she started but he played great coverege and had 5 picks.
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Re: Al Harris/Kampman out for year (torn ACL) 

Post#48 » by Wade-A-Holic » Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:47 pm

BucksRuleAll22 wrote:Explain to me what Tramon Williams did bad last year when he started? I dont remember the exact amount of game she started but he played great coverege and had 5 picks.


Nobody is saying Tramon's a bad player, but he doesn't do what Harris does. And his five picks weren't just in the games Al was out. He did that over the course of the season. Harris does not get thrown at nearly as often for a reason. Sure, he doesn't play the ball all that well, but he's also usually inside his guy's jersey because his coverage is so tight. Tramon is better at making plays on the ball (albeit still not great at it), but he also gives up more catches and gets thrown at more for a reason. However, this point is still moot. Teams are going to line up 3 wide receivers and go after Bush. A lot. That's what matters.
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Re: Al Harris/Kampman out for year (torn ACL) 

Post#49 » by Ayt » Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:21 pm

They'll basically go after whoever Woody isn't on.

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