Some interesting stats

[Wade-A-Holic]

I was bummed when they became a pay site, but it certainly made sense for them.

I wonder how Bulaga has graded out according to them? I'm also curious about Shields.

They called Bulaga the weakest link on our offense, but acknowledged in this last game that Tuck is a beast and the only guy that came to play for the Giants.

Shields has graded out pretty well according to them.

[Ayt]

I also don't think it is laughable to think AR is the MVP. I wouldn't vote that way, but I can see the argument when you factor in what AR does with his feet as well as how much he can make up for a fairly average line with his mobility. His outside the pocket numbers have to be off the charts. Our run game is also very inferior to the NE run game, which is much better than people seem to think.

Still, it is hard to look past Brady's absurd TD/INT ratio. 34/4 is sick. He may have a much better OL and a better run game, but the guy is a **** machine back there.

[Wade-A-Holic]

Their "Pass Rushing Productivity" metric is interesting and shows just how good Clay has been. Meanwhile, Zombo (who I think has been passable on the other side) and Brad Jones both rank in the bottom 10 by the same measurement. A pass rusher opposite Clay would make this defense filthy.

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/20 ... rtunities/

[El Duderino]

I don't know if you can argue Rodgers has had less to work with. Sure we have had a lot of injuries including Grant and Finley but Brady hasn't been working with a bunch of pro bowlers. Green-Ellis and Woodhead have been solid but it's not exactly a running game you can lean on to win games. Rodgers has definitely had a deeper stable of WRs to throw to than Brady. Brady has a couple of good TEs in Hernandez and Grunkowski though. I'd say the surrounding talent is about a wash. GB has the better WRs and NE has the better RBs and TEs.

NE has the better offensive line, RBs, and TEs. BenJarvus Green-Ellis is going to be a 1,000 yard back and is averaging 4.4 YPC. Woodhead has put down 600 yards alone and is average 5.6 YPC. They're much better then you think they are.

I do think Rodgers has a good WR core, and his surrounding pieces are solid despite losing Grant and Finley, but Brady's got an edge IMO.

Yea, the biggest difference between the Packers and Patriots offense IMO is the offensive lines. The Pats have a very consistent offensive line while our line has just been to erratic whether it be the run game as a whole, short yardage run blocking, or pass protection.

If we lose Sunday, my guess is the offensive line struggling will be a big factor.

[El Duderino]

I was bummed when they became a pay site, but it certainly made sense for them.

I wonder how Bulaga has graded out according to them? I'm also curious about Shields.

They called Bulaga the weakest link on our offense, but acknowledged in this last game that Tuck is a beast and the only guy that came to play for the Giants.

Shields has graded out pretty well according to them.

Tuck is a damn good player, but if not for Rodgers mobility and good pocket sense, Bulaga single-handedly would have blown up McCarthy's game plan. Tuck had to be so frustrated as he continually was beating Bulaga with ease, yet Rodgers kept avoiding the sack by Tuck and on top of that, Aaron would create a positive play for the Packers.

If the Bears play all their guys on Sunday, the by far most scary matchup for me besides Hester vs our special teams is Peppers lining up over Bulaga nearly every down.

[Wade-A-Holic]

Yea, the biggest difference between the Packers and Patriots offense IMO is the offensive lines. The Pats have a very consistent offensive line while our line has just been to erratic whether it be the run game as a whole, short yardage run blocking, or pass protection.

If we lose Sunday, my guess is the offensive line struggling will be a big factor.

Given the quality of defensive fronts in this division, I would love to see us invest in improving our offensive line this off season. Bulaga has been really up and down, and more down than up, but I still like him and think he could make a big improvement from year one to year two. I think we definitely need a stronger player at left guard. Maybe that's Lang. Maybe even McDonald, who they seem to like a lot (probably being groomed as a center, though). Clifton has been pretty good this year but we're playing with fire if we think he can do it again next year.

[Wade-A-Holic]

I was bummed when they became a pay site, but it certainly made sense for them.

I wonder how Bulaga has graded out according to them? I'm also curious about Shields.

They called Bulaga the weakest link on our offense, but acknowledged in this last game that Tuck is a beast and the only guy that came to play for the Giants.

Shields has graded out pretty well according to them.

Tuck is a damn good player, but if not for Rodgers mobility and good pocket sense, Bulaga single-handedly would have blown up McCarthy's game plan. Tuck had to be so frustrated as he continually was beating Bulaga with ease, yet Rodgers kept avoiding the sack by Tuck and on top of that, Aaron would create a positive play for the Packers.

If the Bears play all their guys on Sunday, the by far most scary matchup for me besides Hester vs our special teams is Peppers lining up over Bulaga nearly every down.

Agreed. It won't take in depth film study for the Packers to help on Peppers every time he's lined up over Bulaga though.

And for those of you who didn't see it, when Masthay was asked about punting to Hester, he sarcastically replied "I'll probably just hit low line drives down the middle and see if he can do anything with it" ... He better hope he doesn't shank one like that on accident.

[PkrsBcksGphsMqt]

One of my buddies wants us to take Carimi and Moffitt with our first two picks. That would be one way to fix our Oline. Just put those guys both on the left, then have Sitton and Bulaga on the right. It would be a pretty talented young line.

[bigkurty]

One of my buddies wants us to take Carimi and Moffitt with our first two picks. That would be one way to fix our Oline. Just put those guys both on the left, then have Sitton and Bulaga on the right. It would be a pretty talented young line.

Those guys actually know how to run block too which would be nice for a change.

[Ill-yasova]

One of my buddies wants us to take Carimi and Moffitt with our first two picks. That would be one way to fix our Oline. Just put those guys both on the left, then have Sitton and Bulaga on the right. It would be a pretty talented young line.

Those guys actually know how to run block too which would be nice for a change.

I think Carimi will end up being a RT so if you think Bulaga can make the transition to the left side that would e a good pick.

[bigkurty]

So far I don't think bulaga can be a very good LT unfortunately. Thing is there really aren't that many great LT's coming out every year to really cover the position so most teams could use an upgrade at LT probably. Hell even Clifton doesn't have the mobility to be a good LT anymore but he gets by on good technique and experience at his old age. Maybe Bulaga with a full year under his belt and a good offseason can make it to the average level at least going into next year.

[Ayt]

I think one thing in Bulaga's favor is that he came out as a junior. That extra year makes a much bigger difference in football compared to basketball.

We'll also know a lot more about what we have after a full offseason of NFL strength training and another year of training camp. I'm always very interested to see how guys look physically after that first offseason. I think people are being way too hasty in writing him off. Maybe it has to do with the fact that we haven't had to develop a young tackle in a decade.

[El Duderino]

I think one thing in Bulaga's favor is that he came out as a junior. That extra year makes a much bigger difference in football compared to basketball.

We'll also know a lot more about what we have after a full offseason of NFL strength training and another year of training camp. I'm always very interested to see how guys look physically after that first offseason. I think people are being way too hasty in writing him off. Maybe it has to do with the fact that we haven't had to develop a young tackle in a decade.

Bulaga was getting beat by Tuck more from bad technique and inexperience i thought, but looking at his body, i've thought for awhile that he can really use getting stronger, especially from the waist down. A little more junk in the trunk per say. His legs and butt look light compared to his upper body to me.

Besides him coming out early and missing part of his college season via to an illness if i remember correctly, i do also wonder if the move to the right tackle spot is causing some of his struggles? Bulaga spent nearly all of camp practicing at LT/LG and his whole career at Iowa was him playing LT. When i saw him interviewed by someone that asked about switching to the right side, he tried downplaying it, but he did say it was uncomfortable for awhile.

That first step back in pass protection for a tackle is important and after spending his whole life playing on the left side, his first step back is on the opposite foot compared to what he's used to. Plus, while his struggles of late do concern me, it's certainly not uncommon for a rookie tackle to go through some growing pains because in college, you simply aren't going to face a Justin Tuck one week and Peppers the next. Whether Bulaga will be able to handle the long term job at LT is something i'm far from being convinced of though. Rookie tackles often will struggle, but he's been pretty damn bad for three weeks in a row now.

[El Duderino]

They called Bulaga the weakest link on our offense, but acknowledged in this last game that Tuck is a beast and the only guy that came to play for the Giants.

Shields has graded out pretty well according to them.

Tuck is a damn good player, but if not for Rodgers mobility and good pocket sense, Bulaga single-handedly would have blown up McCarthy's game plan. Tuck had to be so frustrated as he continually was beating Bulaga with ease, yet Rodgers kept avoiding the sack by Tuck and on top of that, Aaron would create a positive play for the Packers.

If the Bears play all their guys on Sunday, the by far most scary matchup for me besides Hester vs our special teams is Peppers lining up over Bulaga nearly every down.

Agreed. It won't take in depth film study for the Packers to help on Peppers every time he's lined up over Bulaga though.

I'm curious to see how McCarthy handles that matchup because last Sunday even though Tuck kept beating Bulaga, MM didn't chip or double Tuck very often. McCarthy just doesn't seem to like doubling good pass rushers that much, especially when he goes into those 3-4 WR sets. He'll generally leave at least a back or TE to help overall in protection, but that guy has to always watch out first for a blitzer coming up the middle. It's far less often that McCarthy will say line up a TE next to Clifton or Bulaga to help double the DE.

This has frustrated me sometimes over the years when one of our tackles is struggling badly in pass protection, but McCarthy will still regularly spread the defense out with 4 wide receivers and leave that struggling tackle on his own.