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Re: Bears Postgame 

Post#81 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Sep 29, 2014 6:00 pm

SVP and Russillo just spent five-plus minutes gushing about Rodgers. They mentioned the throw.
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Re: Bears Postgame 

Post#82 » by Bernman » Mon Sep 29, 2014 6:02 pm

Greatness wrote:Unfortunately I think Lacy is Trent Richardson 2.0. I really wish the Steelers took Lacy and we ended up with Bell who is so much better.


That's an overreaction and over-simplification. Those players aren't alike because they went to the same school. Was Trent Richardson ever ROY? Because Lacy was. He's probably just off due to injury. A-Rodg's message applies here : R-E-L-A-X.
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Re: Bears Postgame 

Post#83 » by Bernman » Mon Sep 29, 2014 6:06 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:SVP and Russillo just spent five-plus minutes gushing about Rodgers. They mentioned the throw.


That's cool.

Hopefully it still makes its way onto highlight shows now thru the back door via social media push. It shouldn't be left to people's imagination what happened. Seeing is believing.
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Re: Bears Postgame 

Post#84 » by LikeABosh » Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:39 pm

Jordy leads the league in receiving yards and receptions, and Cobb is tied for 1st for TDs

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Re: Bears Postgame 

Post#85 » by Newz » Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:55 pm

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Greatness wrote:Unfortunately I think Lacy is Trent Richardson 2.0. I really wish the Steelers took Lacy and we ended up with Bell who is so much better.


That's an overreaction and over-simplification. Those players aren't alike because they went to the same school. Was Trent Richardson ever ROY? Because Lacy was. He's probably just off due to injury. A-Rodg's message applies here : R-E-L-A-X.


Yup.

I'm not one to constantly complain about playcalling either, but I feel like we don't use Lacy in the right ways. I don't get why we run so many tosses, stretch plays and draws with him. Give him the ball with some momentum going forward as opposed to him running to the side. I also think we underutilize him as a receiving threat as well... I still wish we ran more screens and ran him out to the flat more often.
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Re: Bears Postgame 

Post#86 » by WiscSports1 » Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:59 pm

The toss play to Lacy is probably the dumbest play in our playbook.
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Post#87 » by CousinOfDeath » Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:29 pm

Losing Barclay is a big reason Lacy hasn't been as effective
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Re: Bears Postgame 

Post#88 » by Kerb Hohl » Mon Sep 29, 2014 9:17 pm

I'm more of a lean on Lacy not being that good and maybe a rich-man's Trent in the comparison that DB had. He's like Lynch without the big play ability. He actually looks exactly like current-day Steven Jackson running the ball out there. EDIT: Jackson does seem to be having an OK year, though.

He may have been pretty solid but that extra oomph he needs might already be worn away.

I think he'll improve on his subpar start but I don't think he's the stud we thought he was.
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Re: Bears Postgame 

Post#89 » by Ron Swanson » Mon Sep 29, 2014 9:39 pm

Kerb Hohl wrote:I'm more of a lean on Lacy not being that good and maybe a rich-man's Trent in the comparison that DB had. He's like Lynch without the big play ability. He actually looks exactly like current-day Steven Jackson running the ball out there. EDIT: Jackson does seem to be having an OK year, though.

He may have been pretty solid but that extra oomph he needs might already be worn away.

I think he'll improve on his subpar start but I don't think he's the stud we thought he was.


Are we really going to go ahead and come to this conclusion after 4 games (3 against good run defenses) though? Last season we saw him play at an elite level for 14 games. Have the concussion concerns affected his play thus far? Maybe, but I'm not going to throw out the 14 game sample size in favor of a 4 game one.

Ball-carrier vision isn't just something that "goes away" after a season and that seems to be his issue right now (finding the holes). I think people are overreacting a bit. Some running backs just get better as the season goes on, and we'll know come Week 9 or 10 whether or not last year was a fluke. I don't think it was.
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Re: Bears Postgame 

Post#90 » by trwi7 » Tue Sep 30, 2014 12:12 am

Ron Swanson wrote:Last season we saw him play at an elite level for 14 games.


The ****? He was at 3.7 ypc or less for 8 games last year. Really, there were only 4 games where you could say he played at an elite level. The Ravens (23/120), Bears (22/150), Cowboys (21/141) and Steelers (15/84).

The rest of the season he was averaging 57 yards on 17 carries, 3.36 ypc.
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Re: Bears Postgame 

Post#91 » by Kerb Hohl » Tue Sep 30, 2014 12:28 am

Yeah, this is going off of last year's games as well.
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Post#92 » by Mags FTW » Tue Sep 30, 2014 12:33 am

He wasn't elite, but impressive what he achieved as a rookie with a backup Qb.
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Re: Bears Postgame 

Post#93 » by Newz » Tue Sep 30, 2014 12:58 pm

He looked significantly better last year than he has this year. He looked much better in the first half of the Seahawks game than he has since he got the concussion.

That's my opinion though. Right now he's hesitating. His value is in the fact that he is willing to run full speed ahead and punish defenders. When he is dancing around and trying to make guys miss behind the line of scrimmage, he's going to suck.
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Re: Bears Postgame 

Post#94 » by Ron Swanson » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:25 pm

trwi7 wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Last season we saw him play at an elite level for 14 games.


The ****? He was at 3.7 ypc or less for 8 games last year. Really, there were only 4 games where you could say he played at an elite level. The Ravens (23/120), Bears (22/150), Cowboys (21/141) and Steelers (15/84).

The rest of the season he was averaging 57 yards on 17 carries, 3.36 ypc.


I'm going off of last season as a whole, where he was the Offensive rookie of the year and an all-pro RB. So yeah, elite.

YPC doesn't tell jack about how good a back is either. Marshawn Lynch holds a stellar 4.2 YPC for his career while Ryan Grant is technically "better" at 4.3 YPC for his.

Role, touches, and how good your O-line is can skew that stat drastically. But hey, don't let me stop people from jumping to conclusions after a 3 & 1/2 game sample size....
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Re: Bears Postgame 

Post#95 » by Allanon23 » Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:06 pm

wichmae wrote:Starks breaks down and they have publicly stated they wanted to get Eddy going. I think thats your reason.


Starks was fine last year healthwise. I'm not asking for him to get 25 carries a game, just to share the load. In two out of our four games he didn't get a single touch. Unacceptable.

And if they truly wanted Eddy to get going they'd stop calling outside runs/toss plays. He isn't seeing holes quick enough and doesn't have the speed to get to the edge. He's a north-south back right now.
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Re: Bears Postgame 

Post#96 » by rilamann » Wed Oct 1, 2014 12:27 am

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