LSU/Bucky At Lambeau - 2:30

Kerb Hohl · Post #141 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Tue Sep 6, 2016 3:38 am

Lots of rumors of Notre Dame coming to Lambeau in 2020 maybe followed by Soldier Field in 2022.

Ron Swanson · Post #142 » by **Ron Swanson** » Tue Sep 6, 2016 2:29 pm

Kerb Hohl wrote:The Illinois game last year told the whole story. I am not losing sleep over last year because I think they'd have ended up probably with the same record. Maybe Houston battles them through the Northwestern game or something but blows the Nebraska game with some picks.

As many turnovers as Stave had, I felt a lot safer with him.

That said, I'm intrigued by what Houston can do this year.

I think the point with Houston (and how I would have framed it last year) is that him getting the starts would have made him much more prepared for this season. As it is, he looked ok against a very good SEC defense with obviously a couple bad decisions. With Stave, he had proven over his first 3 seasons that he wasn't going to lead you anywhere as your starting QB.

PkrsBcksGphsMqt · Post #143 » by **PkrsBcksGphsMqt** » Tue Sep 6, 2016 2:33 pm

Kerb Hohl wrote:Lots of rumors of Notre Dame coming to Lambeau in 2020 maybe followed by Soldier Field in 2022.

Good timing. In 2020, my Badger fandom will be peaking after recently attaining a degree, plus Notre Dame is my most hated football team. I have a buddy who went there and is your stereotypical arrogant ass hole Notre Dame fan. Loved seeing them go down to Texas.

Kerb Hohl · Post #144 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Tue Sep 6, 2016 2:37 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:
Kerb Hohl wrote:The Illinois game last year told the whole story. I am not losing sleep over last year because I think they'd have ended up probably with the same record. Maybe Houston battles them through the Northwestern game or something but blows the Nebraska game with some picks.

As many turnovers as Stave had, I felt a lot safer with him.

That said, I'm intrigued by what Houston can do this year.

I think the point with Houston (and how I would have framed it last year) is that him getting the starts would have made him much more prepared for this season. As it is, he looked ok against a very good SEC defense with obviously a couple bad decisions. With Stave, he had proven over his first 3 seasons that he wasn't going to lead you anywhere as your starting QB.

There was this crazy set of blinders put on fans about Stave because there was this perceived notion of "he sucks" when he stepped on the field. He was always average to above average in the college football ranks.

Did you happen to forget Stave's performances against Alabama, USC, @Ohio State as a sophomore (among other good games)? I think we're going to get very similar results with just a slightly different eye test. Houston has more zip on the ball but makes even dumber mistakes. Stave had a pretty steady throw that was just off the mark 4-5 times in a game.

He won the job over Bart Houston even under Paul Chryst. It's pretty clear who was better.

Post #145 » by **MickeyDavis** » Tue Sep 6, 2016 3:14 pm

I've always wanted Notre Dame on the schedule but I would prefer a true home/home series. I think it would be great to have the Irish at Camp Randall.

Post #146 » by **humanrefutation** » Tue Sep 6, 2016 3:55 pm

PkrsBcksGphsMqt wrote:
Kerb Hohl wrote:Lots of rumors of Notre Dame coming to Lambeau in 2020 maybe followed by Soldier Field in 2022.

Good timing. In 2020, my Badger fandom will be peaking after recently attaining a degree, plus Notre Dame is my most hated football team. I have a buddy who went there and is your stereotypical arrogant ass hole Notre Dame fan. Loved seeing them go down to Texas.

Badger fandom, now? First Minnesota, then Marquette, and now Wisconsin? You can't go from being a fan of our two biggest rivals to a fan of our team! What's it gonna be, then? PckersBcksZgsGphsMqtUW? :lol:

midranger · Post #147 » by **midranger** » Tue Sep 6, 2016 3:57 pm

I don't know where the idea that stave was a solid game manager came from. He was a turn over machine. He had 12 total TOs to 3 TDs in conference play last year. That's 4 turn overs for every TD. As a fourth year starter, with the softest conference schedule you could hope for. Over his tenure, he pretty much singlehandedly lost us multiple games, and several more we won in spite of him.

I respect that the kid was a gamer (he did have a few really great games, mainly under the lights in prime time) and gave his all, but he wasn't an above average QB overall.

trwi7 · Post #148 » by **trwi7** » Tue Sep 6, 2016 4:19 pm

You see games like Alabama and Ohio State and think Stave might not be horrible but then you see games like Iowa and Northwestern and wonder how he got not only a D-I scholarship but a D-I scholarship to a Power 5 conference school.

Kerb Hohl · Post #149 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Tue Sep 6, 2016 4:35 pm

midranger wrote:I don't know where the idea that stave was a solid game manager came from. He was a turn over machine. He had 12 total TOs to 3 TDs in conference play last year. That's 4 turn overs for every TD. As a fourth year starter, with the softest conference schedule you could hope for. Over his tenure, he pretty much singlehandedly lost us multiple games, and several more we won in spite of him.

I respect that the kid was a gamer (he did have a few really great games, mainly under the lights in prime time) and gave his all, but he wasn't an above average QB overall.

He botched his chance to move up to being considered a "pretty good" QB in his last season - but he had the worst OL/RB of any of the recent Badger QBs who were a cut above, so hard to say for sure.

Wiscfan92 · Post #150 » by **Wiscfan92** » Tue Sep 6, 2016 5:33 pm

What a freaking game that was. Awesome game to watch with other Badger fans. Hope the team doesn't get too high on this win though, because the heart of the season will be brutal.

PkrsBcksGphsMqt · Post #151 » by **PkrsBcksGphsMqt** » Tue Sep 6, 2016 9:48 pm

humanrefutation wrote:
PkrsBcksGphsMqt wrote:
Kerb Hohl wrote:Lots of rumors of Notre Dame coming to Lambeau in 2020 maybe followed by Soldier Field in 2022.

Good timing. In 2020, my Badger fandom will be peaking after recently attaining a degree, plus Notre Dame is my most hated football team. I have a buddy who went there and is your stereotypical arrogant ass hole Notre Dame fan. Loved seeing them go down to Texas.

Badger fandom, now? First Minnesota, then Marquette, and now Wisconsin? You can't go from being a fan of our two biggest rivals to a fan of our team! What's it gonna be, then? PckersBcksZgsGphsMqtUW?

Ha, yeah it's going to be an awkward transition. Still feels weird going to campus/class as a UW student.

trwi7 · Post #152 » by **trwi7** » Wed Sep 7, 2016 4:15 am

http://www.12up.com/posts/3720776-12-funniest-signs-from-college-gameday-at-lambeau-field?a_aid=36273

Lippo · Post #153 » by **Lippo** » Wed Sep 7, 2016 5:30 pm

humanrefutation wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:I don't care that his stat line wasn't that great. It's just such a joy to not have to watch Joel **** Stave as your QB.

This game really shows me why the team went with Stave last year. It's the conservative move. He was not a good quarterback, but he was smarter than Houston and didn't kill you. Houston was a more volatile option - he's not as bright, and he could throw a couple awful picks and kill you.

I still would have gone with Houston, though, because I think he's got a higher ceiling and can make throws that Stave can't or won't. But coaches tend to be more conservative when making decisions like that.

Bart is very intelligent, he was recruited heavily by Stanford as well. There are probably better schools in in upscale Cali than in Greenfield WI. Bart was the #12 recruit, Stave probably not top 200. Bart should have been starting as a Freshman, our teams would have faired better.
Bart:
Honors and Awards
2015: Big Ten Distinguished Scholar, Academic All-Big Ten
2014: Academic All-Big Ten

Fun fact, Bart played for De La Salle, the school that went like 151-0
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_La_Salle_High_School_(Concord,_California)
They made a movie about them - " When the game stands tall "
Bob Ladouceur was played by Jim Caviezel, and Bart played for him.
Catholic, a Academic School - So yeah, Bart is probably a 1st class character.

Kerb Hohl · Post #154 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Wed Sep 7, 2016 5:49 pm

Ryan Fitzpatrick throws lots of INTs.

trwi7 · Post #155 » by **trwi7** » Wed Sep 7, 2016 6:09 pm

Yeah, those Catholics. First class all the way.

Post #156 » by **MickeyDavis** » Wed Sep 7, 2016 9:41 pm

Bielema sign the best

DrWood · Post #157 » by **DrWood** » Thu Sep 8, 2016 12:33 am

Kerb Hohl wrote:
DrWood wrote:Houston looks like nothing more than a game manager - - no elite arm or feet - - but he made a couple of big mistakes that game managers shouldn't make. First start in 5 years, and against better athletes than he's ever played against, so I'll cut him some slack.

I think Houston has some pretty good arm strength. We'll see it in the coming weeks.

If he does, he didn't show it. I kept worrying about more picks as he floated passes to the sidelines. The LSU QB has a much bigger gun, but is inaccurate.

MikeIsGood · Post #158 » by **MikeIsGood** » Thu Sep 8, 2016 12:44 am

trwi7 wrote:http://www.12up.com/posts/3720776-12-funniest-signs-from-college-gameday-at-lambeau-field?a_aid=36273

Warriors Blew A 3-1 Lead In The Finals was my favorite :lol:

Ron Swanson · Post #159 » by **Ron Swanson** » Thu Sep 8, 2016 1:58 pm

Speaking of the Fat One:

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MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #160 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Sat Sep 10, 2016 10:39 pm

Still think the suspension was really weak but it seems like Boutte did apologize and settle things. Also cool that Dixon is mature enough to let it go. http://athletesinaction.org/underreview/what-happened-after-the-hit#.V9SK1YY8KnM