Game 1: Packers at Bears - 7:20 - NBC

[emunney]

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[emunney]

He's not going to stay at 6 snaps.

[chonestown]

He's not going to stay at 6 snaps.

Against all natural urges, I resist the inclination to once again refer to "24 is the Highest Number" serenity now serenity now

[Flames24Rulz]

I just don't understand how anybody can say a first round pick is "bad" before or right after Week 1. IMO, give it at least until December before you can say a rookie might be a bust or not.

[Ayt]

Rodgers needs to get his **** together.

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This is so **** stupid. For one thing Graham is literally seven yards away from a first down. If anything it's stupid that he's apparently the first option. Second is he's clearly covered by the DB. Third is by the time Rodgers correctly moves to his next option he's being swallowed by the defense.

This is only a guess, but he probably correctly read blitz from that side which is why he looked to Graham first. If 20 drops a bit after the snap, he can immediately hit Graham and expect him to pick up the first down. Instead, he didn't drop at all and was in a very good position to make the tackle several yards short of the first down. Smith was also in a very good position to help out. I've made jokes about Graham being incapable of breaking tackles in the open field against DBs, so that may be in the back of AR's mind as well on plays like this. I'm hopeful the more athletic Tonyan can see more snaps as the year progresses because Rodgers may trust a guy like him to get a 1st in that situation.

He looked off Graham after roughly 1 second, and literally had a guy right in his face. If Rodgers had gotten even a fraction of a second of more time, he could have hit the wide open MVS for a nice run and catch.

I do think Rodgers hangs onto the ball too long at times looking for a big play, but this is a poor example.

[Ayt]

I just don't understand how anybody can say a first round pick is "bad" before or right after Week 1. IMO, give it at least until December before you can say a rookie might be a bust or not.

He was bad before he even put the pads on, duh.

I get not liking a pick at the time, but you at least have to give a player a chance. In this case, we have a bitch eating crackers situation. Gary could have had 2 sacks in his debut, and RRyder would be talking about how it was only 1 game, but Michigan, and blah, blah, blah.

[WeekapaugGroove]

He's not going to stay at 6 snaps.

Yeah that will increase. They might not have another game this year where they rotate less on the front 7. Hell Preston Smith basically played every snap.

Perfect storm of guys coming in rested, long week before next game, and most importantly there were only like 2 long drives from the bears. When you get them 3 and out no need to bring fresh rushers.

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[jimmybones]

I just don't understand how anybody can say a first round pick is "bad" before or right after Week 1. IMO, give it at least until December before you can say a rookie might be a bust or not.

He was bad before he even put the pads on, duh.

I get not liking a pick at the time, but you at least have to give a player a chance. In this case, we have a bitch eating crackers situation. Gary could have had 2 sacks in his debut, and RRyder would be talking about how it was only 1 game, but Michigan, and blah, blah, blah.

We’re here live at Rashan Gary’s Hall of Fame induction.


Rryder in the back whispers: sucked at Michigan man I swear to god he sucked at Michigan man

Lol just messing with you man. Here’s to Gary becoming dominant and forming and unstoppable trio with the Smiths and us all loving it, cheers.

[crkone]

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Out of a cannon from deep centerfield.

[RRyder823]

I just don't understand how anybody can say a first round pick is "bad" before or right after Week 1. IMO, give it at least until December before you can say a rookie might be a bust or not.

He was bad before he even put the pads on, duh.

I get not liking a pick at the time, but you at least have to give a player a chance. In this case, we have a bitch eating crackers situation. Gary could have had 2 sacks in his debut, and RRyder would be talking about how it was only 1 game, but Michigan, and blah, blah, blah.

We’re here live at Rashan Gary’s Hall of Fame induction.


Rryder in the back whispers: sucked at Michigan man I swear to god he sucked at Michigan man

Lol just messing with you man. Here’s to Gary becoming dominant and forming and unstoppable trio with the Smiths and us all loving it, cheers.

In fairness I wouldve said it's only one game and to temper enthusiasm..... . Good or bad one game is one game. Just like I'm not anointing Savage (a draft pick I absolutely loved) yet after one very good game

In all actuality yes we all shouldnt make proclamations about young players good or bad but damn if that isnt what we do all the time on sports forums and these forums would get very quite if everyone stopped. I mean that pretty much what the entirety of the board is during the offseason

But yes I do hope he turns out. I dont want people think that I'm actively cheering against him. I hope to all god that he has 20 sacks this year and lives in the backfield all year. I'd also be content with 3-5 sacks with only a couple games where he makes a legit impact. I was simply commenting on the player I thought he was right now. (yes I fully disagree with what has been cited as mounting evidence as legit, ie: no I dont count fluff pieces during tc, but that's niether here nor there)

As I said though I'm going to stop commenting on him altogether for a while. Hopefully the next time we have a conversation about Gary we have something positive to talk about



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[Ayt]

He's not going to stay at 6 snaps.

Yeah that will increase. They might not have another game this year where they rotate less on the front 7. Hell Preston Smith basically played every snap.

Perfect storm of guys coming in rested, long week before next game, and most importantly there were only like 2 long drives from the bears. When you get them 3 and out no need to bring fresh rushers.

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The Packers spent big money on two OLB's that proved their worth in game 1. Fackrell had 10.5 sacks last year. He also hustles his ass off, knows what he's doing, and is solid dropping into coverage. He's a versatile, useful player. Not many teams have a third OLB as productive as he was last year.

Still, Fackrell and Gary played only a combined 29 snaps in game 1. Even with Za'Darius moving inside on passing downs, there aren't going to be a ton of snaps for the backup OLBs baring injury. At this point, Fackrell is likely much better in coverage so there will be plenty of situations where he is the better option even if the coaches think Gary is better at rushing the passer.

Given how awful the Packers OLB's have been collectively for years while the team was trying to run a 3-4, I'm okay with this situation. Gary and Fackrell fighting for roughly 20-30 snaps per game is an excellent situation. Meanwhile, Nick Perry is only 29 and is a free agent.

[jimmybones]

Absolutely okay with bringing Gary along slow. After having watching QBs have all day in the past it’s pretty exciting to have two very good and proven starters and a raw but very talented prospect behind them.

[crkone]

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All 22 of two of Gary's snaps

[Ron Swanson]

I get that he caught the touchdown pass, but still kinda disappointed that Graham continues to look slow as molasses out there. Like someone earlier said, hoping that Tonyan gets more reps as he gets more comfortable in the offense. If you can't consistently get separation against linebackers and you can't block, then you're basically just out there to be a glorified red-zone target.

[Treebeard]

I get that he caught the touchdown pass, but still kinda disappointed that Graham continues to look slow as molasses out there. Like someone earlier said, hoping that Tonyan gets more reps as he gets more comfortable in the offense. If you can't consistently get separation against linebackers and you can't block, then you're basically just out there to be a glorified red-zone target.

Yup. Graham's peak athletic days are behind him. Nowadays, who can he outrun or outjump? Its mostly his knowledge level that helps him find seams in the defence, but he's slow enough that defenders can too often close the gap quickly. Right now, he's also got a bum pinkie that requires it being taped to his ring finger; not real helpful condition for a pass catcher. How much of this reliance on Graham is Rogers comfort level with Graham vs the others?

Gutekunst and LaFleur had to be hoping that both Tonyan and Sternberger could carry a big load. With Sternberger's injury, it shows that TE is not a strong point for the offence.

[humanrefutation]

There are only three things I feel comfortable saying after Week 1:

Darnell Savage and Adrian Amos look like they've got the center of the field ON LOCK.
Kenny Clark is an unblockable monster and they have to pay that man ASAP.
Jaire Alexander is an absolute stud to the point that teams are going to actively avoid throwing to his side of the field.

Everything else I'm going to withhold judgment on, including the Head Coach who made more than one head-scratching decision.

[Ayt]

There are only three things I feel comfortable saying after Week 1:

Darnell Savage and Adrian Amos look like they've got the center of the field ON LOCK.
Kenny Clark is an unblockable monster and they have to pay that man ASAP.
Jaire Alexander is an absolute stud to the point that teams are going to actively avoid throwing to his side of the field.

Everything else I'm going to withhold judgment on, including the Head Coach who made more than one head-scratching decision.

The Smith's had excellent debuts. The Packers spent a lot of money to bring them in, and, at least for one game, they showed exactly why they were worth the investment. It was a very encouraging game for a team that has been so reluctant to spend money on free agents.

[humanrefutation]

There are only three things I feel comfortable saying after Week 1:

Darnell Savage and Adrian Amos look like they've got the center of the field ON LOCK.
Kenny Clark is an unblockable monster and they have to pay that man ASAP.
Jaire Alexander is an absolute stud to the point that teams are going to actively avoid throwing to his side of the field.

Everything else I'm going to withhold judgment on, including the Head Coach who made more than one head-scratching decision.

The Smith's had excellent debuts. The Packers spent a lot of money to bring them in, and, at least for one game, they showed exactly why they were worth the investment. It was a very encouraging game for a team that has been so reluctant to spend money on free agents.

They were definitely good, but I also don't have a high opinion of the Bears OL.