Packers News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - 2023 Off Season

BUCKnation · Post #1121 » by **BUCKnation** » Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:26 pm

The defense seems to falter in the 2nd half, giving up long drives, usually with back breaking 3rd down conversions. All 3 losses have had very similar results on that end. That said, all of them were winnable if the offense could muster anything. Maybe the D is getting tired, in relation to the poor offense, idk. I don't think the scheme is good at all, but the offense hasn't helped them out.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #1122 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:20 pm

BUCKnation wrote:The defense seems to falter in the 2nd half, giving up long drives, usually with back breaking 3rd down conversions. All 3 losses have had very similar results on that end. That said, all of them were winnable if the offense could muster anything. Maybe the D is getting tired, in relation to the poor offense, idk. I don't think the scheme is good at all, but the offense hasn't helped them out.

There's absolutely a fatigue aspect to the D melting late games. It's not excusing them for all their issues but it's for sure contributing.

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M-C-G · Post #1123 » by **M-C-G** » Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:41 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
BUCKnation wrote:The defense seems to falter in the 2nd half, giving up long drives, usually with back breaking 3rd down conversions. All 3 losses have had very similar results on that end. That said, all of them were winnable if the offense could muster anything. Maybe the D is getting tired, in relation to the poor offense, idk. I don't think the scheme is good at all, but the offense hasn't helped them out.
There's absolutely a fatigue aspect to the D melting late games. It's not excusing them for all their issues but it's for sure contributing.

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Our offense goes inept and can’t string together any drives in to many straight possessions and I think we see it eventually draining the defense. But I do think the number of crippling third down conversions is a big problem.

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crkone · Post #1124 » by **crkone** » Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:47 pm

Packers were #1 in time of possession last season. They are 18th this year and 3rd worst in the past 3 games.

Also Packers in the last 3 games are 2nd worst in 2nd half time of possession.

Post #1125 » by **ReasonablySober** » Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:23 pm

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Jordan Love time.

Post #1126 » by **ReasonablySober** » Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:26 pm

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Oh so that's why Clements is back.

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #1127 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:33 pm

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Oh so that's why Clements is back.

I'm sure Pat McAfee and ARod didnt have any conversations pre-interview about how he was 'impartially' graded well. Lob and spike of a question.

Ron Swanson · Post #1128 » by **Ron Swanson** » Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:24 pm

Just a stunning lack of self-awareness and accountability.

M-C-G · Post #1129 » by **M-C-G** » Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:38 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Just a stunning lack of self-awareness and accountability.

Yep, many of us have been bothered by this for years, but 'elite TD:INT' was tough for a lot of people to look beyond. That said, he is not wrong about some of these OL guys if he is talking about Runyan, Neumann, Jenkins (at T) and probably Myers. But my guess is he is really talking about someone like Winfree and Tyler Davis.

Post #1130 » by **MickeyDavis** » Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:47 pm

Yup Rodgers has made plenty of mistakes and needs to own them. But as a 4X MVP his opinion on the other guys does matter. And if some of them aren't stepping up then it's time for others to get their shot.

Treebeard · Post #1131 » by **Treebeard** » Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:11 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:Yup Rodgers has made plenty of mistakes and needs to own them. But as a 4X MVP his opinion on the other guys does matter. And if some of them aren't stepping up then it's time for others to get their shot.

Oh, I know that MVP status carries tons of credibility. Still, this year especially and sometimes last, it sure looks like he's chewing on a reciever when he's thrown more than an yard behind them or in the dirt in front of them. WTF? Those aren't timing issues - they're badly thrown balls. Own your own gaffes Aaron!

Post #1132 » by **MickeyDavis** » Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:30 pm

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DrWood · Post #1133 » by **DrWood** » Wed Oct 26, 2022 7:51 am

Looking at some recent past drafts to see how the packers did relative to other teams; not terrible, not great.
Man, picking Amon-Ra St. Brown (4th round, could have gotten him with our original 3rd round pick) would have helped instead of Amari Rodgers. We definitely picked the wrong St. Brown.
And if we didn't trade up for Love, we could have gotten Clyde Edwards-Hillaire, Tee Higgins, or Michael Pittman (or Claypool).
And if we didn't reach to pick Sternberger, we could have gotten Terry McLaurin or Dawson Knox.
Of course, it doesn't make much difference if our defense doesn't play well.

DrWood · Post #1134 » by **DrWood** » Wed Oct 26, 2022 8:01 am

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Jordan Love time.

Dallin Leavitt, really? Kinda ballsy for a ST player.

Treebeard · Post #1135 » by **Treebeard** » Wed Oct 26, 2022 2:07 pm

Some fun clickbait from CBS Sports:
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-trade-deadline-one-move-each-contender-should-make-to-get-over-hump-bills-go-all-in-for-kareem-hunt/

Trades Contenders should make before deadline (Generously including the Pack as a contender)

Packers (3-4)

Receive: WR Jerry Jeudy, 2023 sixth-round pick
Trade: WR Amari Rodgers, 2023 second-round pick

Jerry Jeudy
DEN • WR • 10
TAR47
REC24
REC YDs386
REC TD2
FL0

Really, the Packers just need a receiver, any receiver, who can help Aaron Rodgers out. But they may as well go for arguably the best receiver who may be available in Jeudy. Ironically, the former 15th overall pick tallied his seaso high in receptions this past Sunday with Brett Rypien throwing him the ball. Imagine what kind of numbers Jeudy -- who caught seven passes for 96 yards in Sunday's loss to the Jets -- would produce with the reigning two-time league MVP throwing him the ball.

It would be a steep price to acquire him, but the cost would be well worth it if Jeudy is able to help the Packers right the ship after a rocky start. In the process, Rodgers would also be getting a fresh start in Denver after struggling to make headway in Green Bay.

Ron Swanson · Post #1136 » by **Ron Swanson** » Wed Oct 26, 2022 2:58 pm

Has Jeudy even remotely lived up to his pre-draft hype the last two years? A 2nd-rounder is a pretty high price tag for what he's shown thus far.

Post #1137 » by **ReasonablySober** » Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:06 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Has Jeudy even remotely lived up to his pre-draft hype the last two years? A 2nd-rounder is a pretty high price tag for what he's shown thus far.

I didn't think he was special coming out of the draft, and nothing he's shown in the NFL has convinced me otherwise. He looks like a round 3 talent, at best.

Treebeard · Post #1138 » by **Treebeard** » Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:09 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Has Jeudy even remotely lived up to his pre-draft hype the last two years? A 2nd-rounder is a pretty high price tag for what he's shown thus far.

Naw. It's junk for junk, mostly based on college reputations. I wouldn't do the 2nd under any circumstance for Jeudy.

msiris · Post #1139 » by **msiris** » Wed Oct 26, 2022 4:32 pm

This would be dumb. ESPN's Dan Graziano said a league source told him "not to be surprised if the Packers' solution at receiver ended up being a tight end."
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Matches Malone · Post #1140 » by **Matches Malone** » Wed Oct 26, 2022 4:41 pm

Gross.

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