Packers News, Transactions - 2025 off-season - McManus Signed - 3 Years/$15 million

[RRyder823]

You're right about Doubs and Kraft although they aren't experienced enough to break up interceptions. That's it though.. after that Watson and Reed are fast but physical playoff defenses will hold them and get away with it mitigating them. 4th quarter NFC championship blitz the only 1v1 available is Wicks let's say.. you want that ball being slung up there again? F it would be nice to have Kupp there.. I think we run 4 receivers or rotate a lot... I consistantly see Heath and Melton out there.

You keep saying this like the NFL is like the NBA where officiating will drastically change from regular season into the playoffs.

It doesn't

The difference is that teams that make the POs, and make deep runs, generally have really good defenses



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They call O-line holding, roughing the passer and PI's the same but there are many videos showing that teams like SF and KC hold WRs during routes and get away with it all game in the playoffs.. either it's apathy by the officials since it's every play or those teams are just masters at how and when to do it where the refs cant see but on replays and PG analysis you can see it... they gum things up and it's hard to get open so there are many more contested catches that have to happen. Same people saying Kupp is washed were saying it about Jacobs and he's not. Good gamble imo

There are plenty of videos of good defenses getting away with that in the regular season. WTF are you talking about?

This is the NFL we are talking about. Not the NBA. Stop acting like they're the same when it comes to how they officiate the postseason.



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[RRyder823]

Kupp isn't anywhere close to the player he used to be. I can't imagine the Packers having much interest.

Hopkins went to Cheifs for a 4th plus they had to eat salary .. he's 32 and had 75 for 1000 last year

Adams a conditional 3rd

Kupp hasn't had a 1000 yards in a couple years at 31 yrs old so likely a 5th round pick.. it's a similar offense but even a partially washed former OPOY Kupp is a 1st, 2nd or 3rd receiver on our team considering the lack of experience we have. Great situation for him and a good gamble for us but that Vikings beatdown might make them stay pat.

I thought I read the Rams wanted a 2nd.

You are willing to taken on the $20 million cap hit the next two years? The Packer will need to start extending some of their young guys by then.

They did. Yet here we still are



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[-Jragon-]

You keep saying this like the NFL is like the NBA where officiating will drastically change from regular season into the playoffs.

It doesn't

The difference is that teams that make the POs, and make deep runs, generally have really good defenses



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They call O-line holding, roughing the passer and PI's the same but there are many videos showing that teams like SF and KC hold WRs during routes and get away with it all game in the playoffs.. either it's apathy by the officials since it's every play or those teams are just masters at how and when to do it where the refs cant see but on replays and PG analysis you can see it... they gum things up and it's hard to get open so there are many more contested catches that have to happen. Same people saying Kupp is washed were saying it about Jacobs and he's not. Good gamble imo

There are plenty of videos of good defenses getting away with that in the regular season. WTF are you talking about?

This is the NFL we are talking about. Not the NBA. Stop acting like they're the same when it comes to how they officiate the postseason.



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So how many bad defenses will be in the playoffs? Get it yet? There WILL need to be many contested catches that need to be made... 1 more guy that can do that would be NICE

[RRyder823]

They call O-line holding, roughing the passer and PI's the same but there are many videos showing that teams like SF and KC hold WRs during routes and get away with it all game in the playoffs.. either it's apathy by the officials since it's every play or those teams are just masters at how and when to do it where the refs cant see but on replays and PG analysis you can see it... they gum things up and it's hard to get open so there are many more contested catches that have to happen. Same people saying Kupp is washed were saying it about Jacobs and he's not. Good gamble imo

There are plenty of videos of good defenses getting away with that in the regular season. WTF are you talking about?

This is the NFL we are talking about. Not the NBA. Stop acting like they're the same when it comes to how they officiate the postseason.



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So how many bad defenses will be in the playoffs? Get it yet? There WILL need to be many contested catches that need to be made... 1 more guy that can do that would be NICE

Saying another talented pass catcher could help the team in the POs isn't some ground breaking take. You can say that about literally any position.

You however were making the point that officials allow a ton more physicality in the NFL playoffs. Don't be trying to change what you said to "oh I was just saying they'll be play good defenses so they need a better WR"

We've very recently seen this WR group in the POs....... Against top defenses...... And guess what?....... They performed. So this idea of yours that they're gonna struggle because something something PO Defense doesn't really have a strong foundation to stand on.

I'm actually still amazed that you think that our #5 and #6 WR will play starter type snaps if one guy goes down.

Just how deep is a good WR room to you? Cause apparently every team over .500 should be offering up a 2nd round pick for Kupp

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[-Jragon-]

There are plenty of videos of good defenses getting away with that in the regular season. WTF are you talking about?

This is the NFL we are talking about. Not the NBA. Stop acting like they're the same when it comes to how they officiate the postseason.



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So how many bad defenses will be in the playoffs? Get it yet? There WILL need to be many contested catches that need to be made... 1 more guy that can do that would be NICE

Saying another talented pass catcher could help the team in the POs isn't some ground breaking take. You can say that about literally any position.

You however were making the point that officials allow a ton more physicality in the NFL playoffs. Don't be trying to change what you said to "oh I was just saying they'll be play good defenses so they need a better WR"

We've very recently seen this WR group in the POs....... Against top defenses...... And guess what?....... They performed. So this idea of yours that they're gonna struggle because something something PO Defense doesn't really have a strong foundation to stand on.

I'm actually still amazed that you think that our #5 and #6 WR will play starter type snaps if one guy goes down.

Just how deep is a good WR room to you? Cause apparently every team over .500 should be offering up a 2nd round pick for Kupp

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I think if the above 500 team has all young receivers then he can be very valuable for their growth ..plus the tough catches... I'd give a conditional 5th that can be a 4th if X happens (50 catches or something)

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[MoMM]

If we had McManus since the beginning, we could be 8-0 at this time. Great signing.

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This seems bad.

[Ron Swanson]

If it's as serious as it looks then I think they have to make a move for a DB before the deadline. Nixon has done an admirable job on the boundary, but you need better quality depth than Stokes and Corey Ballentine.

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Sounds like the worst was avoided.

[Daver]

Wow wow wow carlson goes 5 gor 5 last night in FGs 51 44 42 35 30.It took 2 years for his brother to find his groove hope we didnt get rid of him to soon

[Daver]

If we had McManus since the beginning, we could be 8-0 at this time. Great signing.

Really the FG kicker didnt cost us the game against philly.....love did bad throws all night missed 2 wide open td passes.
Kicker didnt cost us the viking game our D giving up 28 points at half did as did loves 2 picks.Easy to blame 1 guy n forget that love has been erratic this year

[MickeyDavis]

If we had McManus since the beginning, we could be 8-0 at this time. Great signing.

Really the FG kicker didnt cost us the game against philly.....love did bad throws all night missed 2 wide open td passes.
Kicker didnt cost us the viking game our D giving up 28 points at half did as did loves 2 picks.Easy to blame 1 guy n forget that love has been erratic this year

If all we needed was a FG to win instead of a TD against Philly that last drive wouldn't have been different. Would we have won? We'll never know.

[MoMM]

If we had McManus since the beginning, we could be 8-0 at this time. Great signing.

Really the FG kicker didnt cost us the game against philly.....love did bad throws all night missed 2 wide open td passes.
Kicker didnt cost us the viking game our D giving up 28 points at half did as did loves 2 picks.Easy to blame 1 guy n forget that love has been erratic this year

Not saying the kicker is the only reason, but if our kicker had made those kicks, we could have potentially won both games.

[Daver]

If we had McManus since the beginning, we could be 8-0 at this time. Great signing.

Really the FG kicker didnt cost us the game against philly.....love did bad throws all night missed 2 wide open td passes.
Kicker didnt cost us the viking game our D giving up 28 points at half did as did loves 2 picks.Easy to blame 1 guy n forget that love has been erratic this year

If all we needed was a FG to win instead of a TD against Philly that last drive wouldn't have been different. Would we have won? We'll never know.

Philly was down to the 2 yard line on thst last drive dont you think they get a TD if the score was any different.Maybe if love dordnt miss a wide open watson in the endzone they win

[Daver]

[quote="MoMM"][quote="Daver"][quote="MoMM"]If we had McManus since the beginning, we could be 8-0 at this time. Great signing.[/quote]



Really the FG kicker didnt cost us the game against philly.....love did bad throws all night missed 2 wide open td passes.
Kicker didnt cost us the viking game our D giving up 28 points at half did as did loves 2 picks.Easy to blame 1 guy n forget that love has been erratic this year[/quote]
Not saying the kicker is the only reason, but if our kicker had made those kicks, we could have potentially won both games.[/quote]




Fair enough i guess but if love doednt throw 2 picks n the D doesnt give up 28 points in the 1st half we win also

[MoMM]

Really the FG kicker didnt cost us the game against philly.....love did bad throws all night missed 2 wide open td passes.
Kicker didnt cost us the viking game our D giving up 28 points at half did as did loves 2 picks.Easy to blame 1 guy n forget that love has been erratic this year

Not saying the kicker is the only reason, but if our kicker had made those kicks, we could have potentially won both games.

Fair enough i guess but if love doednt throw 2 picks n the D doesnt give up 28 points in the 1st half we win also

What's easier to fix and doesn't have lots of variables involved? If you want to blame Love for this, ok, but what about all the good things about him? Same goes for the D which is playing well for most of the season.

Kicking was awful, maybe the worse in the NFL before signing McManus. Even the games that we won could have been easier and not so painful. It's not like when Mason Crosby missed 5 FGs in the same game, but was reliable for most of his career.

[Daver]

If we had McManus since the beginning, we could be 8-0 at this time. Great signing.

Really the FG kicker didnt cost us the game against philly.....love did bad throws all night missed 2 wide open td passes.
Kicker didnt cost us the viking game our D giving up 28 points at half did as did loves 2 picks.Easy to blame 1 guy n forget that love has been erratic this year

Not saying the kicker is the only reason, but if our kicker had made those kicks, we could have potentially won both games.

No philly drove down to the 1 yard line on that last drive n didnt even try ro score a TD packers lost by 5 philly still wins that game.
As for the viking game he missed 1 FG well maybe if the D doesnt allow 28 points that missed fg wouldnt of mattered.

[Daver]

Not saying the kicker is the only reason, but if our kicker had made those kicks, we could have potentially won both games.

Fair enough i guess but if love doednt throw 2 picks n the D doesnt give up 28 points in the 1st half we win also

What's easier to fix and doesn't have lots of variables involved? If you want to blame Love for this, ok, but what about all the good things about him? Same goes for the D which is playing well for most of the season.

Kicking was awful, maybe the worse in the NFL before signing McManus. Even the games that we won could have been easier and not so painful. It's not like when Mason Crosby missed 5 FGs in the same game, but was reliable for most of his career.

Yes the fg kicker sucked im not defending him but the packers lost 2 games both games had zero bearing on his kicks.People blame our fg kicker on losing to SF last year.
Wtf no to that cause the niner kicker missed 1 to and it wasnt carlson that allowed the niners to go right down the field n score a TD wasnt carlson that threw a huge pic on a really stupid throw.
Yes carlson last year n the other dude this year both sucked but no way im blaming them for the packer 2 loses this year.
BTW carlson was 5 for 5 last night

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He hasn't been good, but I like the signing anyway.