2024 NFL Draft - five picks in the first three rounds (seven in four! [probably])

Post #121 » by **ReasonablySober** » Mon Oct 30, 2023 5:20 pm

Bowers is the easy choice at #4. Go OL in round two.

Ron Swanson · Post #122 » by **Ron Swanson** » Mon Oct 30, 2023 5:32 pm

Drake Maye is getting the classic "2nd best QB in the draft" over-hype. Have no issues with him in the 1st but I'm not touching the guy with a Top-5 pick.

And I'm one million percent fine drafting another blue-chip defender so long as we get a defensive coordinator who actually has a clue on how to scheme NFL defense in 2023.

LUKE23 · Post #123 » by **LUKE23** » Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:04 pm

I think Maye is a stud. There is a clear top 3 in this draft. We don’t land there and I’m trading down for an OT. I’m also trading every player who won’t be here next two seasons that has value at the deadline.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #124 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:09 pm

After watching this years O and with the packs history drafting I have to tip my cap to those who would be cool drafting D. Your respect of the draft process is higher than mine. I don't watch college so don't know the prospects but I would have a hard time getting behind a D player regardless of how much of a stud he looks like.

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Profound23 · Post #125 » by **Profound23** » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:09 pm

Seahawks traded a 2nd and 5th for Leonard Williams (funny since Giants traded a 3rd and 5th for him 3 years ago).

Kenny Clark should be able to net at least a 2nd and a 5th, if not a first.
Aaron Jones should be able to get back a 3rd at least if not a 2nd from a team like Baltimore.
There are a few more we should be calling around and shopping now (Preston, DeVondre, Rasul Douglas, maybe even Jenkins)

Post #126 » by **ReasonablySober** » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:11 pm

Profound23 wrote:Seahawks traded a 2nd and 5th for Leonard Williams (funny since Giants traded a 3rd and 5th for him 3 years ago).

Kenny Clark should be able to net at least a 2nd and a 5th, if not a first.
Aaron Jones should be able to get back a 3rd at least if not a 2nd from a team like Baltimore.
There are a few more we should be calling around and shopping now (Preston, DeVondre, Rasul Douglas, maybe even Jenkins)

Clark probably could get a 2nd.

But I doubt Jones gets more than a 6th.

Profound23 · Post #127 » by **Profound23** » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:17 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:
Profound23 wrote:Seahawks traded a 2nd and 5th for Leonard Williams (funny since Giants traded a 3rd and 5th for him 3 years ago).

Kenny Clark should be able to net at least a 2nd and a 5th, if not a first.
Aaron Jones should be able to get back a 3rd at least if not a 2nd from a team like Baltimore.
There are a few more we should be calling around and shopping now (Preston, DeVondre, Rasul Douglas, maybe even Jenkins)

Clark probably could get a 2nd.

But I doubt Jones gets more than a 6th.

If all we can get is a 6th for Jones then no way. At the same time, it's time to shut some players down and trade some away.

I am still playing Love, Watson, Doubs, Reed, Musgrave etc to see what we got but when it comes to the vets like Jaire, Jenkings, Aaron Jones, Clark, Rasul, Devondre, etc. I am going to see what I can get for them and if there isn't a huge demand for them then shut them down and let's TANK!

Ron Swanson · Post #128 » by **Ron Swanson** » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:29 pm

Deal all the guys near or on the wrong side of 30, sure. Jaire is 26 and Jenkins is 27 though. I'm not just dumping very good, young players for Day-2 picks.

Post #129 » by **ReasonablySober** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 7:48 pm

Packers current picks

Round 1
Round 2
Round 2 (from NYJ)
Round 3
Round 3 (from BUF)
Round 4
Round 6
Round 7

I like it.

MVP2110 · Post #130 » by **MVP2110** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 7:52 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:Packers current picks

Round 1
Round 2
Round 2 (from NYJ)
Round 3
Round 3 (from BUF)
Round 4
Round 6
Round 7

I like it.

We're also projected to get a 4th and 2 6ths from comp picks

raysbookclub · Post #131 » by **raysbookclub** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:50 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:Packers current picks

Round 1
Round 2
Round 2 (from NYJ)
Round 3
Round 3 (from BUF)
Round 4
Round 6
Round 7

I like it.

Our own picks will be high, too. We need to hit on this draft. Gotta produce a handful of starters, a couple stars.

I'd love to see long-term starters at OT, OT (move Tom to C please), S, OLB, RB, maybe WR (Harrison Jr?).

Post #132 » by **ReasonablySober** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:57 pm

Given they've now got two third rounders and potentially two fourth rounders, they could conceivably use both 2nds to get back to the middle of round one for another top prospect. They just opened up a hole in the defensive backfield and DeJean is gonna be highly thought of.

CWoodfan · Post #133 » by **CWoodfan** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:11 pm

MVP2110 wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:Packers current picks

Round 1
Round 2
Round 2 (from NYJ)
Round 3
Round 3 (from BUF)
Round 4
Round 6
Round 7

I like it.

We're also projected to get a 4th and 2 6ths from comp picks

I thought it was a 5th for Lazard and 6ths for Reed & Lowry, where is the 4th coming from?

https://wisportsheroics.com/green-bay-packers-brian-gutekunst-nfl-draft/

MVP2110 · Post #134 » by **MVP2110** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:18 pm

CWoodfan wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:Packers current picks

Round 1
Round 2
Round 2 (from NYJ)
Round 3
Round 3 (from BUF)
Round 4
Round 6
Round 7

I like it.

We're also projected to get a 4th and 2 6ths from comp picks

I thought it was a 5th for Lazard and 6ths for Reed & Lowry, where is the 4th coming from?

https://wisportsheroics.com/green-bay-packers-brian-gutekunst-nfl-draft/

Nick Korte originally projected a 5th but later clarified if Lazard gets a solid chunk of playing time this year it likely gets bumped to a 4th and so far Lazard has been getting alot of PT with the Jets

This is from early Sept and so far he's easily kept up the pace

Read on Twitter

?t=zMeBX0ZbJ71ABBbsAdyKkg&s=19

CWoodfan · Post #135 » by **CWoodfan** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:30 pm

MVP2110 wrote:
CWoodfan wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:
We're also projected to get a 4th and 2 6ths from comp picks

I thought it was a 5th for Lazard and 6ths for Reed & Lowry, where is the 4th coming from?

https://wisportsheroics.com/green-bay-packers-brian-gutekunst-nfl-draft/

Nick Korte originally projected a 5th but later clarified if Lazard gets a solid chunk of playing time this year it likely gets bumped to a 4th and so far Lazard has been getting alot of PT with the Jets

This is from early Sept and so far he's easily kept up the pace

Read on Twitter
?t=zMeBX0ZbJ71ABBbsAdyKkg&s=19

Bueno, thanks for the good news.

coolhandluke121 · Post #136 » by **coolhandluke121** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 11:03 pm

Profound23 wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
Profound23 wrote:Seahawks traded a 2nd and 5th for Leonard Williams (funny since Giants traded a 3rd and 5th for him 3 years ago).

Kenny Clark should be able to net at least a 2nd and a 5th, if not a first.
Aaron Jones should be able to get back a 3rd at least if not a 2nd from a team like Baltimore.
There are a few more we should be calling around and shopping now (Preston, DeVondre, Rasul Douglas, maybe even Jenkins)

Clark probably could get a 2nd.

But I doubt Jones gets more than a 6th.

If all we can get is a 6th for Jones then no way. At the same time, it's time to shut some players down and trade some away.

I am still playing Love, Watson, Doubs, Reed, Musgrave etc to see what we got but when it comes to the vets like Jaire, Jenkings, Aaron Jones, Clark, Rasul, Devondre, etc. I am going to see what I can get for them and if there isn't a huge demand for them then shut them down and let's TANK!

I agree completely on the vets, especially since so many of them are looking injury-prone. The NFL is a meat grinder and other than QBs, you gotta err on the side of assuming that most guys pass their prime in their late 20s, especially if they have extensive injury histories. There's no reason to gamble on guys like Clark, Jaire, or Jenkins still being good in a couple years. Heck, I'm still not even sure they're good now. How could any of us be? And they'll have large cap hits and/or dead money. Why bother wasting any of their remaining good years at all?

I agree with RS that your valuations might be a little high though. Jones in particular is a huge question mark. I mean, would anyone be at all surprised if the hamstring issue just lingers all year? He's an NFL RB with over 1000 carries, and he'll be 29 in a month. Teams are going to be wary of him.

MoMM · Post #137 » by **MoMM** » Wed Nov 1, 2023 4:11 pm

MVP2110 wrote:
CWoodfan wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:
We're also projected to get a 4th and 2 6ths from comp picks

I thought it was a 5th for Lazard and 6ths for Reed & Lowry, where is the 4th coming from?

https://wisportsheroics.com/green-bay-packers-brian-gutekunst-nfl-draft/

Nick Korte originally projected a 5th but later clarified if Lazard gets a solid chunk of playing time this year it likely gets bumped to a 4th and so far Lazard has been getting alot of PT with the Jets

This is from early Sept and so far he's easily kept up the pace

Read on Twitter
?t=zMeBX0ZbJ71ABBbsAdyKkg&s=19

I thought the compensation pick was only based on salary, how it works in terms of playing time?

MVP2110 · Post #138 » by **MVP2110** » Wed Nov 1, 2023 4:13 pm

MoMM wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:
CWoodfan wrote:
I thought it was a 5th for Lazard and 6ths for Reed & Lowry, where is the 4th coming from?

https://wisportsheroics.com/green-bay-packers-brian-gutekunst-nfl-draft/

Nick Korte originally projected a 5th but later clarified if Lazard gets a solid chunk of playing time this year it likely gets bumped to a 4th and so far Lazard has been getting alot of PT with the Jets

This is from early Sept and so far he's easily kept up the pace

Read on Twitter
?t=zMeBX0ZbJ71ABBbsAdyKkg&s=19

I thought the compensation pick was only based on salary, how it works in terms of playing time?

Salary is the main component but not the only component. Playing time also matters

MVP2110 · Post #139 » by **MVP2110** » Wed Nov 1, 2023 4:14 pm

Here's a good breakdown of the formula

https://overthecap.com/the-basics-and-methodology-of-projecting-the-nfls-compensatory-draft-picks

Ron Swanson · Post #140 » by **Ron Swanson** » Wed Nov 1, 2023 4:23 pm

You could make the argument for Jenkins not being the same guy since the ACL injury, but I think anyone wanting to trade Jaire is legit **** bonkers. He's 26 and was right back to being a Top-5 cover corner in football last season. If that's not a guy you think is a foundational piece on defense worth keeping, then no one is.