Packers News, Transactions - 2025 off-season - McManus Signed - 3 Years/$15 million

[MickeyDavis]

Too much angst about Preston. His playing time has dwindled because he's sucked this year. As for not adding anyone, it's not like Gute didn't try. He said he did but there was no deal to be made. But we're 6-3 (3-6 last year) and in a position to make the playoffs again. That's all you can ask.

He's consistently been #2 in snaps at DE behind Gary. Now we are looking at Enagbare and Van Ness at that DE position. The guys behind them probably aren't even NFL players.

I just read that he requested a trade, so I'm cool with it, but I also get why people aren't happy about it from the football side of things. He is still a useful player at a premium position that is very weak outside of Gary. If Gary gets hurt, we are ****. If Enagbare or Van Ness gets hurt, we have no depth.

I agree about the depth. Still 8+ games to go.

[HKPackFan]

This team could use another pass rusher, so I guess I get it, you weakened a position that was a little weak already.


But packers did him a solid to let him audition somewhere to earn another contract and get traded.

Hopefully the benefit, the young guys step up, get reps, and start to grow.

[coolhandluke121]

Can Quay be an edge rusher in Hafley's scheme? Because he sure af can't be an ILB trying to diagnose plays...

[HKPackFan]

Can Quay be an edge rusher in Hafley's scheme? Because he sure af can't be an ILB trying to diagnose plays...

Maybe they can teach him some pass rush moves and simplify his role. Stop focusing all his energy from the MLB and use those athletic gifts as a rusher... Could salvage his situation.

Reverse of what we did with clay Matthews.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

If we were gonna save the same money either way by releasing him in the offseason, I don't understand this move at all. We really just needed another 7th round pick huh?

So we don't save anything this year?

[Giannisland34]

Cox, Mosby and possibly even Brooks could improve the pash rush from the end position. Over what Preston was giving this year and in Hafley’s scheme. Besides Enagbare now getting the starter snaps. As he’s been the best passing end this year even over Gary.
Hoping for an additional by subtraction. Or at least being positive about it until it’s proven otherwise.

Looking like another defensive draft ahead. Only position solidified right now is safety.

[BUCKnation]

Can Quay be an edge rusher in Hafley's scheme? Because he sure af can't be an ILB trying to diagnose plays...

I've been saying this all year. He's just not great as an ILB, but could be a versatile edge guy since he has some ability to cover, which would allow more unique looks. Micah parsons was a stand up linebacker in college and Quay is a similar size profile.

[MVP2110]

The Quay to the edge spot makes a ton of sense as had been stated by many Packer observers. He's super athletic with alot of natural skill. Take him out of the ILB spot and see what he can do at edge. With Preston gone there is a perfect opportunity to do that now

[RubberSoul]

It’s driving me insane they aren’t at least trying Quay as edge rusher. He’s an athletic freak and is miscast as MLB trying to diagnose plays and fill gaps. Let him get after the QB. His experience in coverage would allow you to use him in coverage in some of these simulated pressures we use as well.

I truly don’t get it these coaches must know something we don’t because it seems so obvious.


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[PintSizedBox10]

Quay is 240 LBs with zero bend and people want him at EDGE?

[WeekapaugGroove]

Quay is 240 LBs with zero bend and people want him at EDGE?

Yeah I don't see him working out as a traditional edge in the packs current 4-3 but they could use him in some exotic nickel looks where is primarily a blitzer.

Realistically he's probably best as a special teamer and id guess they won't pick up his 5th yr option so his days here are numbered.

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[M-C-G]

Quay is 240 LBs with zero bend and people want him at EDGE?

Yeah I don't see him working out as a traditional edge in the packs current 4-3 but they could use him in some exotic nickel looks where is primarily a blitzer.

Realistically he's probably best as a special teamer and id guess they won't pick up his 5th yr option so his days here are numbered.

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I think it is more about molding him into a useful player (or attempting to) but just as much about improving the defense by expanding Coopers role too.

[Giannisland34]

Quay can’t get off blocks as linebacker. But you want him to play end? No thank you.

[Ron Swanson]

What's crazy about it? Quay's garbage in run defense and garbage in coverage, but he's actually useful as a pass-rusher (54th out of 157 LB's in PFF pass rush grade). This ain't rocket science. Just tell the massive, freak athlete to pin his ears back and move him all around the line.

[Kerb Hohl]

What's crazy about it? Quay's garbage in run defense and garbage in coverage, but he's actually useful as a pass-rusher (54th out of 157 LB's in PFF pass rush grade). This ain't rocket science. Just tell the massive, freak athlete to pin his ears back and move him all around the line.

There's a difference between sprinting up the middle on a blitz as ILB/MLB or 4-3 OLB vs. beating a tackle around the edge as a 3-4 OLB.

I'm not sure how LB is defined in PFF, but I always kind of have had issue with grouping 3-4 OLBs as LBs - because it's an entirely different position.

So I would say that is not a great comparison if we're talking about "LB" if we're counting OLBs.

You're citing a stat that probably includes Quay, running up the middle of the offense either unblocked or bowling over a RB rated higher than some "bad" 3-4 OLB who is trying to beat Lane Johnson around the edge.

[Ron Swanson]

I guess at this point I'm not really sure what the difference is between Quay and Van Ness? Both guys are just raw, dumb athletes that have developed zero pass-rushing skills, so why are we still excited for one and think the other guy can't possibly play snaps as a stand-up edge rusher? Cuz Luke has an extra 25 lbs? No harm in just trying something different with the hope that you can still salvage him as a useful player in the one thing that he's proven he can be even remotely good at.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I guess at this point I'm not really sure what the difference is between Quay and Van Ness? Both guys are just raw, dumb athletes that have developed zero pass-rushing skills, so why are we still excited for one and think the other guy can't possibly play snaps as a stand-up edge rusher? Cuz Luke has an extra 25 lbs? No harm in just trying something different with the hope that you can still salvage him as a useful player in the one thing that he's proven he can be even remotely good at.

I'm all for trying some **** out with Quay. But I do think that extra weight is a big deal when you're talking about full time DE.

But yeah let's try to find something useful for him while he's here because playing MLB doesn't seem like it's going to work out and it's f-ing criminal negligence every time they take Cooper off the field.

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[ReasonablySober]

Hassan Reddick's been a two time pro bowler with double digit sacks in each of the previous four seasons. He's smaller than Quay and has only one move, and that's just using his speed to run around the offensive tackle.

Let Quay do the same thing.

[MickeyDavis]

It's certainly worth a shot. He's been bad.

[Giannisland34]

I guess at this point I'm not really sure what the difference is between Quay and Van Ness? Both guys are just raw, dumb athletes that have developed zero pass-rushing skills, so why are we still excited for one and think the other guy can't possibly play snaps as a stand-up edge rusher? Cuz Luke has an extra 25 lbs? No harm in just trying something different with the hope that you can still salvage him as a useful player in the one thing that he's proven he can be even remotely good at.

You’re right it’s not rocket science. But if you can’t get off blocks and constantly get eaten up by even smaller players than offensive tackles. What’s the chances Quay all of sudden does well pass rushing against them? Well it’s probably not good.

What’s the difference between Quay and Van Ness. One is actually a physical player and the other is not. Quay is better in space. Quay’s best position is probably weak side linebacker. Where he can play is space and use his athletic ability. They have him now more of Mike middle linebacker and it’s to physical and to much reading.

It’s year 1.5 for Van Ness. Quay has had more time more to develop and hasn’t. At 1.5 years I still had hopes that Quay would turnout to be great just like I do for Van Ness. Those hopes for Quay are fading but I don’t think he’s been put in his best position yet either. So there’s still some hope but it’s not at defensive end.