2021 Packers News, Trades, Transactions - Sternberger Released

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June 1 can’t come soon enough. I cringed so hard some poo came out.

I am 100% convinced this would not have happened but for Woodley.

I would bet big money he is the type of guy who is subsumed by whoever he is dating.

What does it say about Rodgers that he continues to attract this type of partner? It takes two to tango, and there's a pattern of behavior that continues to repeat itself over and over. He is deeply insecure and has a massive need to be loved and through proving himself.

Been said by multiple folks here, but he needs a therapist. But he also needs some self-awareness and willingness, so here we are.

This whole "blame the woman" angle is embarrassing and without a shred of support. I'm kind of amazed people are falling for this baseless narrative.

[Ron Swanson]

That video may be the whitest thing I've ever seen, and I'm a 30-something Midwesterner with 100% Scandinavian ancestry who wears polo shirts to work.

[Iheartfootball]

I am 100% convinced this would not have happened but for Woodley.

I would bet big money he is the type of guy who is subsumed by whoever he is dating.

What does it say about Rodgers that he continues to attract this type of partner? It takes two to tango, and there's a pattern of behavior that continues to repeat itself over and over. He is deeply insecure and has a massive need to be loved and through proving himself.

Been said by multiple folks here, but he needs a therapist. But he also needs some self-awareness and willingness, so here we are.

Blaming this on Woodley just largely comes off as misogynistic. I don't even know what "this type of partner" means. This is all on Rodgers. Woodley isn't exactly an attention hog. She's more low key than most. He didn't do this for Munn or Patrick but Woodley is the one who pulled him out of GB? C'mon.

This is about Rodgers carrying the franchise for years and him feeling like his voice is never heard when it comes to the front office.

When I said two to tango I meant Rodgers, not her. I don't blame her, or him for that matter, there's no blame. We are all human beings trying to do the best we can. Lots of people are insecure, unfortunately for him, his insecurity is amplified because he's a great NFL quarterback.

Frankly it's my issue, I'm taking Rodgers behavior this offseason personally. I wish I was more objective and didn't care. Unfortunately, when it comes to the Packers I become a 12 year old boy again and get angry when anything or one threatens their success. And again - I don't mean Woodley, I don't think she has anything to do with this - it's his behavior.

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June 1 can’t come soon enough. I cringed so hard some poo came out.

I know white people can't dance and you should dance like no one is watching but I also feel like they should be publicly shamed for this dancing.

[MoreTrife]

I am 100% convinced this would not have happened but for Woodley.

I would bet big money he is the type of guy who is subsumed by whoever he is dating.

What does it say about Rodgers that he continues to attract this type of partner? It takes two to tango, and there's a pattern of behavior that continues to repeat itself over and over. He is deeply insecure and has a massive need to be loved and through proving himself.

Been said by multiple folks here, but he needs a therapist. But he also needs some self-awareness and willingness, so here we are.

This whole "blame the woman" angle is embarrassing and without a shred of support. I'm kind of amazed people are falling for this baseless narrative.

Okay, I didn't artfully express myself. Yes, similar to what Iheartfootball said, it does take two. It could be a man or a woman. But if you don't know somebody who takes on the personality, causes and life of the person they're dating, I don't know what to tell you. It's 100% a thing. And yeah, I'm on a sports message board reading tea leaves on what's going on in Rodgers life. Things were pretty stable under Danica but with Munn I feel like there were distractions. And if you don't see evidence Rodgers has been different you're blind.

[PintSizedBox10]

Attributing a guy's play to his dating life? Ehhh

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[humanrefutation]

What does it say about Rodgers that he continues to attract this type of partner? It takes two to tango, and there's a pattern of behavior that continues to repeat itself over and over. He is deeply insecure and has a massive need to be loved and through proving himself.

Been said by multiple folks here, but he needs a therapist. But he also needs some self-awareness and willingness, so here we are.

This whole "blame the woman" angle is embarrassing and without a shred of support. I'm kind of amazed people are falling for this baseless narrative.

Okay, I didn't artfully express myself. Yes, similar to what Iheartfootball said, it does take two. It could be a man or a woman. But if you don't know somebody who takes on the personality, causes and life of the person they're dating, I don't know what to tell you. It's 100% a thing. And yeah, I'm on a sports message board reading tea leaves on what's going on in Rodgers life. Things were pretty stable under Danica but with Munn I feel like there were distractions. And if you don't see evidence Rodgers has been different you're blind.

There are no tea leaves. All you're doing is looking at Rodgers's actions and attributing it to his wife. It's a baseless trope that has no substance behind it. If you're trying to find someone to blame for everything, look at the parties involved - Gute and Rodgers. They're grown ass men and they're accountable for their own dispute.

[paulpressey25]

But if you don't know somebody who takes on the personality, causes and life of the person they're dating, I don't know what to tell you. It's 100% a thing.

Yep. I’m not sure why this is even a question. This is human nature for thousands of years. Does it mean Rodgers isn’t responsible for his own actions? No, he’s 100% responsible for what he does, including who he dates. But significant others influence all the time.

At the end of the day, this all comes down to the fact they won’t give him a monster new contract. That line from the interview said it all, he was only supposed to play two more years, but the MVP season put a wrench into that.

[th87]

Is this a thing? Could definitely stand to shed this covid fat.

Last night he mentioned a cleanse he went through. I could be wrong but in a demanding season where you are getting smacked by 275 lb guys running a 4.6 40 you need some reserves to make it through the year.

Also has been into the TB12 method but he looks much more slight than Brady.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/05/12/aaron-rodgers-is-following-the-tb12-method/

I would agree. He didn't really need to lose weight. And cleanses are really stupid and not the only way to lower inflammation. He's getting bad advice and that alone is alarming.

th87, don't do a cleanse, they are dumb and pointless. Source: personal trainer of 10 years

Yeah thanks, I figured. It just seemed intriguing if an elite athlete did it.

[th87]

Look no further than our division to know what life without a franchise QB is like.

Yes, which is why you go get a Jordan Love if your evaluation process leads you to believe he could be a franchise QB, but you didn't like that.

I ask again now - what makes *you* feel optimistic that Love is a franchise QB?

I obviously would never rule him out, but QBs drafted outside the top 10 *overwhelmingly* become nothing.

http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/qb

In the last 10 years, I see Wilson, Cousins (debatable), Prescott, Watson, Jackson. That's 5 or so out of 80.

[midranger]

Look no further than our division to know what life without a franchise QB is like.

Yes, which is why you go get a Jordan Love if your evaluation process leads you to believe he could be a franchise QB, but you didn't like that.

I ask again now - what makes *you* feel optimistic that Love is a franchise QB?

I obviously would never rule him out, but QBs drafted outside the top 10 *overwhelmingly* become nothing.

http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/qb

In the last 10 years, I see Wilson, Cousins (debatable), Prescott, Watson, Jackson. That's 5 or so out of 80.

I would say even in the top 10, they are likely to be nothing.

Look at the 3 drafts, 2013-2015. These guys should be in their prime right now. Who is the best QB drafted in those 3 full classes? Derek Carr? Jimmy Garapolo?

If you’re operating on the belief that Jordan Love will do anything but suck in the NFL, it’s based entirely on blind hope. The franchise themselves has said, “he’s nowhere near ready.” Believe them.

[midranger]

That line from the interview said it all, he was only supposed to play two more years, but the MVP season put a wrench into that.

This is it.

Rodgers is felt like the organization was pushing him out after next year, and it pissed him off. Why did he feel that way? Because they absolutely were pushing him out after next year. I’m sure there were other communication problems regarding issues he found important, but that is all secondary. They were pushing out an all timer QB, and he knew it.

They made a huge bet against him and lost. He won. Now he has capital to do what he wants. Has the biggest stack at the table and he’s using it.

That’s why I don’t blame him too much. I blame the guys who made the terrible bet. Obviously Rodgers is being a bit precious in all of this, but he just won MVP in the most important position in all of pro sports. He can afford to be precious. People will still want him. The solution in my mind is easy. Keep the championship window open another couple years, find a new GM who didn’t bet against the best QB ever. Done.

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[ReasonablySober]

That line from the interview said it all, he was only supposed to play two more years, but the MVP season put a wrench into that.

This is it.

Rodgers is felt like the organization was pushing him out after next year, and it pissed him off. Why did he feel that way? Because they absolutely were pushing him out after next year. I’m sure there were other communication problems regarding issues he found important, but that is all secondary. They were pushing out an all timer QB, and he knew it.

They made a huge bet against him and lost. He won. Now he has capital to do what he wants. Has the biggest stack at the table and he’s using it.

That’s why I don’t blame him too much. I blame the guys who made the terrible bet. Obviously Rodgers is being a bit precious in all of this, but he just won MVP in the most important position in all of pro sports. He can afford to be precious. People will still want him. The solution in my mind is easy. Keep the championship window open another couple years, find a new GM who didn’t bet against the best QB ever. Done.

There's a massive difference in pushing him out and leaving yourself an out. You see it in other sports all the time. They're called team options.

[paulpressey25]

find a new GM who didn’t bet against the best QB ever.

I'm not sure Gute or the organization bet against Rodgers. He was really bad in 2018 and looked cooked. They didn't toss him aside, but instead kept him going at very high pay.

The question is can the Packers cap handle a big new contract for him? If the answer is yes, then I'd spend the money to keep him another 2-3 years on that contract.

Maybe some of you Packers cap guys can comment what a new contract/extension does to the cap and how feasible it is.

[M-C-G]

Look no further than our division to know what life without a franchise QB is like.

Yes, which is why you go get a Jordan Love if your evaluation process leads you to believe he could be a franchise QB, but you didn't like that.

I ask again now - what makes *you* feel optimistic that Love is a franchise QB?

I obviously would never rule him out, but QBs drafted outside the top 10 *overwhelmingly* become nothing.

http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/qb

In the last 10 years, I see Wilson, Cousins (debatable), Prescott, Watson, Jackson. That's 5 or so out of 80.

Two things, and I am not saying he will be or won't be, actually three things I suppose. First and most obvious is you could tell the team was extremely excited to have landed him, and seems to have a very high opinion of his potential future based on their draft eval process, but let's leave that one.

Second, my buddy that does independent scouting and guest on a couple of local shows and publications was also very high on him. And I'd have to find the exact quote, but essentially he had him right up there with all the top guys this year, major fan of his arm talent and thinks he was more of a victim of circumstance that last year at Utah State; new head coach/OC, no NFL talent on the field him on offense, tons of turnover, etc. I am of the belief if you just switched Tua and him for one season, he would have been the top 5 pick and Tua was probably not a first rounder.

Third, his arm talent is real, lots of different arm slots, velocities and strengths. Seems like he will have the ability to throw on the move going both left and right, which is good for MLF offense. I think he was trying to expand his game that last season, or at least that is what I read a lot about. Like a ton of scouts, him landing somewhere with two years to develop before he had to play to get coached up was the best case scenario. I think he had a lot of sloppiness that needs to be corrected and I think that hurt his draft stock, rightfully so.

So when I factor all that in, plus seems to have a good work ethic as far as I can tell, I like our chances, even though the idea of stacking back to back to back QBs is probably unheard of, I think we found a guy that was a bit of a victim of circumstance, needed to be coached up but has the talent, and HOPEFULLY head to make it.

And in case I was unclear, I think if things broke differently for him, he would have been a top ten pick.

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[Wooderson]

I am 100% convinced this would not have happened but for Woodley.

I would bet big money he is the type of guy who is subsumed by whoever he is dating.

What does it say about Rodgers that he continues to attract this type of partner? It takes two to tango, and there's a pattern of behavior that continues to repeat itself over and over. He is deeply insecure and has a massive need to be loved and through proving himself.

Been said by multiple folks here, but he needs a therapist. But he also needs some self-awareness and willingness, so here we are.

Blaming this on Woodley just largely comes off as misogynistic. I don't even know what "this type of partner" means. This is all on Rodgers. Woodley isn't exactly an attention hog. She's more low key than most. He didn't do this for Munn or Patrick but Woodley is the one who pulled him out of GB? C'mon.

This is about Rodgers carrying the franchise for years and him feeling like his voice is never heard when it comes to the front office.

*enters thread*

Oh, we TMZ now. Ok.

[M-C-G]

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Justin Jefferson and Rashad Bateman are two of the most 'Aaron Rodgers Ready' rookies I can recall. I typically don't think you need to draft WR round 1, but both those guys would be absolute plug and play and have Rodgers confidence day 1. So if we were going to go WR it rightfully should have been those guys.